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VCI-100SE TSI 2_4 FeedBack
Posted on: 10.09.2009 by
Please post your suggestions, problems and bugs here. This update has been built for Traktor 1.1.2 and does not work perfectly with TP 1.2, please report any problems. There will be a new mapping for 1.2 released in a month. Download here

Remember to include:

  • Firmware version
  • Traktor version



***Changes and improvements***

Auto Gain turned off
Gain Knobs (Soft Take Over removed)
2 deck and 4 deck layouts changed to maximize space
Pitch range reduced to 4% to increase precision. (you can adjust this manually in the settings)

in the LOOPS section - 4 deck buttons and knobs each button now engages sync for ritchie hawtin style looping.

EQ FX- Changed LFO to zone 92 Filter LFO
EQ FX- Changed GATER to BEatmasher (it will become the slicer in 1.2)

While in juggle mode: hold down one of the 4 cue points and press the "JUGGLE ON" Button. THis will toggle play for that deck. Use this to stop or start playback while in juggle mode.


The sampler has been simplified. Press Sampler + the Cue button of the deck you want to sample. Automatically samples 4 counts of that deck in FX slot 2. hit sample again to turn off. You can only sample one deck at a time.


**BUGs FIXED**

SYNC (Lights up now on output)

SHIFT + Deck B does not activate EQ FX mode
Birdie Vogeli
02.11.2009
Originally Posted by gavgrant
likewise...the sample button does not seem to work on mine either...hmmmm

new TSI file????? the 2.4 is ace as it is!
Not with Traktor 1.2.1. I have a lot of issues as posted above.
Birdie Vogeli
29.10.2009
Originally Posted by lsmith
When importing, did you uncheck anything? My guess is that you have ordered your effects differently.

As for the juggle button issue. That is unfortunately a limitation of Traktor
I have fixed it with the use of bome's for the old mapping: http://ifnotwhynot.me/of-downs-and-ups
No, I imported everything that I could. A few of the checkboxes were greyed out though.

I am most interested in the right jog wheel FX issue though as I'm using those the most
Leota Saniuk
29.10.2009
Originally Posted by Lundmark
(fw 1.3 and traktor pro 1.2.1)

I am having problems with the FX modes.

The EQ FX knobs load Delay, Reverb and Transpose stretch on the left and Filter, no effect and Digital LoFi on the right instead of the ones labeled on the overlay for Traktor Pro. Why is this?

Also, the Fader FX mode is having some problems. It's loading Beatmasher 2, Delay and Turntable FX instead of the ones shown in Ean's dynamic buildup video. Maybe this is supposed to be?
Anyway, I'm having a problem with the right jog wheel making the Beatmasher 2 stuck on even after the wheel is released, like it was "sticky". This does not happen on the left jog wheel and I have tried adjusting the wheel sensitivity. The LEDs under the wheel itself gives me feedback and tells me that there is nothing wrong with the hardware or sensitivity settings.

Lastly, the Juggle On button turns off juggle when the Juggle On knob is turned on. This confuses me. Why is this?
When importing, did you uncheck anything? My guess is that you have ordered your effects differently.

As for the juggle button issue. That is unfortunately a limitation of Traktor
I have fixed it with the use of bome's for the old mapping: http://ifnotwhynot.me/of-downs-and-ups
Donny Gloff
05.10.2009
Originally Posted by chill
don't you guys hate that with ean's tsi you don't see the playing status of a deck directly on the unit?

cheers
chill

No. I don't see the benefit of having such feedback from the VCI. if there is music coming from the speaker or my headphones, I know the deck is playing. if there is a moving waveform onscreen, I know the deck is playing. If i pushed play, i know the deck is playing. why would i need more information than all that?

then again you refer to buttons as knobs.
Lizabeth Peight
28.09.2009
Originally Posted by twelve45
I had the same problem. I have firmware 1.3 though, so I'm not sure if the reason is the same. Anyway, the way I fixed it was going to Controller-Manager in Traktor preferences and selecting "Vestax PC-CONTROLLER" for both In-Port and Out-Port. I believe it was set to "None" for some reason. Hope this helps...

scratch last post, hade a wade through the back postings and my man twelve 45 had sorted it already. now to have some fun!
Ginette Pil
02.11.2009
actually you do have a point..... i've just not tested it as much as you guys

the thing with the filter (one full 1/2 turns & wrong starting point) i used to get but it seems to be fine now...bizare
Birdie Vogeli
02.11.2009
Originally Posted by gavgrant
likewise...the sample button does not seem to work on mine either...hmmmm

new TSI file????? the 2.4 is ace as it is!
Not with Traktor 1.2.1. I have a lot of issues as posted above.
Ginette Pil
02.11.2009
likewise...the sample button does not seem to work on mine either...hmmmm

new TSI file????? the 2.4 is ace as it is!
Edris Acevedo
30.10.2009
Yes sample button doesn't work for me either. Any idea when we can expect a new tsi. I have read somewhere that one is due out iminnently. Of so what version if traktor will it before?

Thanks
Birdie Vogeli
29.10.2009
Originally Posted by lsmith
When importing, did you uncheck anything? My guess is that you have ordered your effects differently.

As for the juggle button issue. That is unfortunately a limitation of Traktor
I have fixed it with the use of bome's for the old mapping: http://ifnotwhynot.me/of-downs-and-ups
No, I imported everything that I could. A few of the checkboxes were greyed out though.

I am most interested in the right jog wheel FX issue though as I'm using those the most
Leota Saniuk
29.10.2009
Originally Posted by Lundmark
(fw 1.3 and traktor pro 1.2.1)

I am having problems with the FX modes.

The EQ FX knobs load Delay, Reverb and Transpose stretch on the left and Filter, no effect and Digital LoFi on the right instead of the ones labeled on the overlay for Traktor Pro. Why is this?

Also, the Fader FX mode is having some problems. It's loading Beatmasher 2, Delay and Turntable FX instead of the ones shown in Ean's dynamic buildup video. Maybe this is supposed to be?
Anyway, I'm having a problem with the right jog wheel making the Beatmasher 2 stuck on even after the wheel is released, like it was "sticky". This does not happen on the left jog wheel and I have tried adjusting the wheel sensitivity. The LEDs under the wheel itself gives me feedback and tells me that there is nothing wrong with the hardware or sensitivity settings.

Lastly, the Juggle On button turns off juggle when the Juggle On knob is turned on. This confuses me. Why is this?
When importing, did you uncheck anything? My guess is that you have ordered your effects differently.

As for the juggle button issue. That is unfortunately a limitation of Traktor
I have fixed it with the use of bome's for the old mapping: http://ifnotwhynot.me/of-downs-and-ups
Birdie Vogeli
28.10.2009
(fw 1.3 and traktor pro 1.2.1)

I am having problems with the FX modes.

The EQ FX knobs load Delay, Reverb and Transpose stretch on the left and Filter, no effect and Digital LoFi on the right instead of the ones labeled on the overlay for Traktor Pro. Why is this?

Also, the Fader FX mode is having some problems. It's loading Beatmasher 2, Delay and Turntable FX instead of the ones shown in Ean's dynamic buildup video. Maybe this is supposed to be?
Anyway, I'm having a problem with the right jog wheel making the Beatmasher 2 stuck on even after the wheel is released, like it was "sticky". This does not happen on the left jog wheel and I have tried adjusting the wheel sensitivity. The LEDs under the wheel itself gives me feedback and tells me that there is nothing wrong with the hardware or sensitivity settings.

Lastly, the Juggle On button turns off juggle when the Juggle On knob is turned on. This confuses me. Why is this?
Ginette Pil
16.10.2009
Hi all,

First post on DJTT!! woo hoo!

anyway, have got 1.3 firmware and 2.4 TSI file. All good apart from the 2nd FX light which knocks the others off when in FX Bank 2 (NI problem i believe??) but i can live with this.

However, SYNC does not work. The buttons light up (1/2) and stay on fine. Ive done the auto Beatgrid (ok, its a little off).

Thoughts anyone????


Thanks
Gav.
Susy Toerner
16.10.2009
How would i go about using this file but with a different midi device?
WrthKDs .
14.10.2009
Thx army, I will try again, maybe I missed it the first two times (that was while playing).
Joannie Brague
14.10.2009
Just go into the midi window and look for that loop command, and then under there you can change it to 4.
WrthKDs .
13.10.2009
This is probably an easy one but couldn't find it: the default loop button makes a loop over 8 beats, I'd like to change the preset to 4 beats. I've been looking around to see where the 8 is hardcoded but no luck Any hints are greatly appreciated!
Danae Dumler
06.10.2009
So all of a sudden now when I fiddle with the gain knob on the VCI (using the latest mapping on Traktor 1.2), the entire track scrolls back and forth and the sound cuts out completely. The software seems to believe it is still playing music but there is no sound coming out anymore and the gain knob has this bizarre effect on the waveform - it scrolls from beginning to end of the song as you turn the knob. I don't see any duplicate mapping in the controller-manager. Any idea what went wrong?
Donny Gloff
05.10.2009
Originally Posted by chill
don't you guys hate that with ean's tsi you don't see the playing status of a deck directly on the unit?

cheers
chill

No. I don't see the benefit of having such feedback from the VCI. if there is music coming from the speaker or my headphones, I know the deck is playing. if there is a moving waveform onscreen, I know the deck is playing. If i pushed play, i know the deck is playing. why would i need more information than all that?

then again you refer to buttons as knobs.
Kerstin Eden
05.10.2009
i have tested the following:
with an other regular unit, firmware version 1.2 and tp 1.2.1.
it is the same issue. it is not possible to use the forth knob of the bottom line knobs on the left or right deck as play/pause button, because you can't adjust the on/off state of the led for this button.
smae behaviour with t3.4.

any ideas?
what am i doing wrong?
don't you guys hate that with ean's tsi you don't see the playing status of a deck directly on the unit?

cheers
chill
Kerstin Eden
04.10.2009
question:
when i press play the light on my black vci, just turns to blue the second i press it. as soon as i release the button the light turns to white again.
in this way it is not possible to see the status on the unit.
any ideas?

cheers
chill
Donny Gloff
04.10.2009
firmware 1.3
tracktor 1.2 Pro

When I loaded Ean's new .tsi for the 1.2Pro upgrade it works fine, aside from a few minor bugs which I'm assuming Ean will learn and address when he gets a little more time to finish the mapping. I'm guessing that since so many of us were having issues with the 1.2 upgrade, that Ean just wanted to get us something that would work until he could do a full revamp of the mapping.

There are a few bugs I've noticed, but the mapping works more or less the way it did before the upgrade.

These are the bugs I can believe of at the moment that I've realized.

Pitch fader: If I only have one deck playing and nothing synced to it, I get a +/-100% pitch range; when I have a deck synced to it, I get roughly +/- 8%. Also it seems that sometimes I can change the speed on the master deck and the other decks that are 'synced' to it, don't change speed with the master, they stay at the synced speed. Occasionally, however, they will stay in sync. Minor issue that I'm able to work around pretty easily.

Sample button: As far as I can tell does nothing. I'm guessing that Ean hasn't got to this one yet with the 1.2 upgrade.

Juggle button (not knob): Occasionally the juggle button seems to toggle on Deck B. Explanation: When I load a new track I almost always hit sync immediately, then hold down juggle button to jump to cue point 1(sync button), then hit play as soon as the broadcasting deck gets to it's first beat of a measure. Sometimes when I do this the juggle light is still on (unnoticed) and when I hit play button it adds Cue point 4 on top of Cue point 1, or it jumps to Cue point 4, without playing. Cured by hitting the juggle button again to toggle it off. So far I've only noticed this happening on Deck B and not every time, so it may be something to do with my timing in releasing the buttons, not sure yet.

All basic functions seem to work just fine. Faders and knobs correspond to their onscreen positions and all faders, buttons, and knobs work great aside from the sample button. I'm hoping that Ean has done his testing and is, as we wait (patiently), working out the bugs so he can give us a fully functional new .tsi sometime this month (fingers crossed).

Thanks again to Ean for sharing his expertise in midi mapping with all of us. I have faith that he will work it out in the near future.
Madeline Rega
05.10.2009
Thanks for the input on the solving the filter problem. My issue is that my scratch LED seems to be reversed. That is when the light is off I am able to use scratch mode and when the light is on, nothing. Also, as soon as I play something in a deck, scratch mode automatically turns off. Is this a feature of the TSi or have I messed something up?
Lizabeth Peight
28.09.2009
Originally Posted by twelve45
I had the same problem. I have firmware 1.3 though, so I'm not sure if the reason is the same. Anyway, the way I fixed it was going to Controller-Manager in Traktor preferences and selecting "Vestax PC-CONTROLLER" for both In-Port and Out-Port. I believe it was set to "None" for some reason. Hope this helps...

scratch last post, hade a wade through the back postings and my man twelve 45 had sorted it already. now to have some fun!
Lizabeth Peight
28.09.2009
i'm having major problems with the latest tsi file for 1.2 pro. firmware upgrade to 1.3 check. overlays applied without incident, check. traktor 1.2.1 installed,check. import and apply tsi 2_4 (tpro 1.2). nothing. not a single button or fader works. zilch. however if i import the file for 1.12, this works fine, barring bugs mentioned, and an issue with the knob mapped to the filter. it dies not reflect the knob on screen, but a half turn of the knob on the controller equals a full turn on traktor pro. is this right????
anyhow that's not my question really. re: tsi for 1.2 pro, any ideas what is ahppening or am i missing something blindinly obvious?

cheers in advance
robin loo
28.09.2009
Originally Posted by miamela
sample button dont work .... only for me ?
same problem here.. sample toggles the first fx button of unit 1..
have imported the tsi twice, with no results..
Leota Saniuk
25.09.2009
believeing about this some more. i believe given the device target support in TP 1.2 i believe i will move to bome for my entire mapping. this why i can split the vci-100 into multiple virtual controllers which will let me cut down the mappings severly. bome is really not that expensive and works quite reliably. but i guess Ean will probably prefer keeping the barrier to entry low and not require bome. then again maybe with DJTT working out a deal to bundle a promo code with all vci-100 and/or overlays the price could be brought down low enough to make requiring bome feasible?
Reiko Sabah
19.09.2009
Originally Posted by spazticmidget
downloaded the new 1.2 mapping but none of the buttons work at all for me??? any ideas??? noob mistake???

1.2 firmware

1.2.1 traktor pro
I had the same problem. I have firmware 1.3 though, so I'm not sure if the reason is the same. Anyway, the way I fixed it was going to Controller-Manager in Traktor preferences and selecting "Vestax PC-CONTROLLER" for both In-Port and Out-Port. I believe it was set to "None" for some reason. Hope this helps...
Laquita Coduto
18.09.2009
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Looks like your prayers have been answered, Eans just released a proper 1.2 mapping!

Get on it! Take a back up of your setup now then its so easy to switch back and forth with no hassle.

Gav
HELL YEAH! Good to be in the 1.2 game. I was looking forward to trying it out. Just played with it for an hour. So far....so good!

Thanks Ean! Just in time to mess with it for the weekend!
Lily Rhem
18.09.2009
downloaded the new 1.2 mapping but none of the buttons work at all for me??? any ideas??? noob mistake???

1.2 firmware

1.2.1 traktor pro
Leota Saniuk
18.09.2009
yipee .. unfortunately i am off to the US soon, touring .. but not as a DJ, but as a speaker at a conference road show (7 cities in 14 days .. if anyone wants to meet up, here are the locations -> http://cw.mtacon.com/).

when i get back i will look into adapting Ean's TP1.2 mapping with my customizations.
Doug Bieling
18.09.2009
Originally Posted by jthompsn
I wish I was in the same place with adjusting the midi mappings as you all seem to be, but I'm not. I'm still hesitant about upgrading to 1.2.1 because I'm happy with the 2.3 and 2.4 tsi. How well do Ean's mappings work with 1.2.1? Aside from the filter knobs cycling through twice and a few other issues, should I just wait till a new mapping is released for 1.2. I suck at mapping. I believe the traktor bible is in my future!
Looks like your prayers have been answered, Eans just released a proper 1.2 mapping!

Get on it! Take a back up of your setup now then its so easy to switch back and forth with no hassle.

Gav
Laquita Coduto
17.09.2009
I wish I was in the same place with adjusting the midi mappings as you all seem to be, but I'm not. I'm still hesitant about upgrading to 1.2.1 because I'm happy with the 2.3 and 2.4 tsi. How well do Ean's mappings work with 1.2.1? Aside from the filter knobs cycling through twice and a few other issues, should I just wait till a new mapping is released for 1.2. I suck at mapping. I believe the traktor bible is in my future!
Doug Bieling
17.09.2009
Originally Posted by djproben
how do you guys add the search command to the browser buttons? Is there an option in Controller settings? Also has anyone figured out how to fix juggle mode?
In your midi mapping just add the search function to the up and down browse buttons..... DONE
Donette Njos
16.09.2009
lsmith dude, I'd like to give you some serious praise. Your indepth analysis and awesome customization and verbose help is beautiful. I checked out your blog, very cool. I feel like you're really contributing a lot of value to these community s. Thanks so much for clarifying, I would've been beating my head into a wall trying to get cues 5-8...



Originally Posted by lsmith
Thats not possible with Ean's mapping. I modified his mapping back in May to make this possible bu pressing the juggle button while the juggle knob is turned on. This would cause the juggle button LED to blink and you would have access to hotcue 1-8 for the deck on focus. However this requires bome and this approach is obviously no longer compatible with Ean's new mapping, though I have to check if I can reintegrate this.

@Ean: Getting access to hotcue 5-8 really seems to be one of the main requests. Not sure if TP 1.2 really helps us here as even though you now in theory have infinite modifiers, in practice since they cannot share modifiers its not so easy. Then again a few things could maybe be moved to separate logical controllers, like the browsing or the sampler.
Danae Dumler
16.09.2009
how do you guys add the search command to the browser buttons? Is there an option in Controller settings? Also has anyone figured out how to fix juggle mode?
Vernon Vanderberg
16.09.2009
+1 for adding a search command to the browser buttons. I have been adding this since tsi 1_4
Doug Bieling
16.09.2009
i thought that when i tried it the other day, thought i must be doin somethin wrong though.
Andrea Viniolla
16.09.2009
sample button dont work .... only for me ?
Doug Bieling
16.09.2009
Said this before a couple of times but it never seems to get implemented and everytim i upgrade i have to add it back in.

When you go into browse mode add a comand in which sends the cursor to the search bar so you can hit the borwse button and instantly type in what you are looking for, instead of then using the mouse to position it then type.

Its a no brainer to me so not sure why this never gets added.

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