Vci-100se 3_0 mapping *beta*
Vci-100se 3_0 mapping *beta* This mapping is no longer in beta and is officially launched. You can download the new mapping and provide feedback here: http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=10733 | |
| Anabel Madeira 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by ToteyMonkey
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| Mireille Hagert 13.01.2010 | First of all I'll say Hi to everyone as this is my first post. And thank you to DJTT and Ean, as this community
and the blog rock. Thanks for all the great work you put in. Some of the problems I'm experiencing may be due to the fact that I'm using FW 1.2. Hope to upgrade any day now. Here's some of them:
As others have said, I believe I will also miss the snap button and to a lesser extent the quant button. Got to say I love the dedicated slice and delay buttons, when used along with the jogs are amazing! It'll take a bit of getting used to, but I believe once I do the layout of this mapping will be really useful to me. Thanks. |
| Doug Bieling 13.01.2010 | Further to my last post .... - When you turn on the juggle buttons you get an audiable click type sound through the speakers - If you press and hold both the Slice and jog to quickly you get a locked deck |
| Doug Bieling 13.01.2010 | Going to post as i find The button first button in effects row that should turn on the beatmasher doesnt do anything. It doesnt light up either. The effects type button glitchs the sound whenever you press it like the buzz of the slicer. If you press echo and the jog very quicky almost at the same time together it tends to stop or jam the playing deck and only a spin backwards of the track with the jog sets it going again. Thats it for now will be back with more if i find them! Gret work though ean, the use of the echo and slicer functions is second to none!!! Cheers Gav |
| Leota Saniuk 13.01.2010 | the behavior of the juggle buttons is also a bit weird, although maybe its design that way: pressing juggle 1-4 turns on the led, pressing again turns it off pressing juggle 5-8 turns on the led, pressing again turns it off pressing juggle 1-4 turns on the led, then pressing juggle 5-8 turns on the led there, and disables the led on juggle 1-4. so for everything makes sense. if i have juggle 5-8 enabled and then press juggle 1-4 both juggle modes end up being disabled. which effectively means that if juggle 5-8 is active, juggle mode can be turned off by either pressing juggle 1-4 or juggle 5-8. |
| Leota Saniuk 13.01.2010 | 1) when fx type 2 is selected, the B button doesnt function. 2) i got the sampler to work once, but now when i press on the sampler, the headphone buttons do not blink. as a matter of fact the headphone buttons fail to function all together. restarting traktor fixes the headphone buttons. pressing them temporarily sets mod7 to 1 and releasing sets mod7 back to 0 but every press toggles the led state as well as the headphone setting. so far so good. if i have both headphone button off and press the sampler, mod1 jumps to 5 and toggles back to 0 with every press. none of the headphone buttons blink however. and from now on the headphone buttons do not function anymore, although mod7 still jumps to 1 while pressing one of the headphone buttons. pressing sampler and pressing one of the headphone buttons turns mod1 to 6 and from now on the sampler does not toggle mod1 back to 0 anymore and so mod1 stays at 6. |
| Earnest Spink 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by kewlbreeze
I have setup a hotkey on my keyboard for snap and quantize due to the missing buttons. I believe once again, shift and the two beat juggle buttons can easily be mapped to engage the missing options. If not officially in the next version, which should be out in two weeks with bug fixes and so on, I will at least include those two buttons in "my" mapping. Would gladly share it afterwards. |
| Anabel Madeira 13.01.2010 | So has the snap button been left for dead? That is a major concern for those of us who don't manually beat grid our tracks before hand. And no quantize button? I assume the ability to store cue points is still available? I certainly will try this new mapping out. There are some new features that look fun. But from first glance it looks the version 2 mapping better suits more of my needs than version 3. Honestly, the original mock up image of the overlay design for v3 looks more usable. I hope I'm wrong because I'd hate to miss out on the advancements of 3.1, 3.2,etc. Please don't take this as blind negativity, cause that is not my intent. Just pointing out potential shortcomings in the design as I see them. Why not have a nice long beta test of v3 before printing off overlays and (for the most part) locking in a design template? |
| Corey Holm 13.01.2010 | Bugs found: FX Bank 2: Button B doesnt work. C,D works. FX Bank 1: B,C,D Works. FX preset 1-4 leds doesnt works sometime |
| Leota Saniuk 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by Leon.R
working now .. thanks! |
| Merlyn Komula 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by Abyrne7
SS |
| Earnest Spink 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by lsmith
I didn't even want to mention having the problem after I fixed it. Check the controller settings and assign your VCI as input and output device: Pick your VCI in the drop down Menu and then set as midi in and out in the two boxes next to the drop down on the right side. EDIT: Important is to have your VCI set as Input device, not "all ports". Set the VCI , Loopbe, bomes or whatever you usually have set as output device. |
| Leota Saniuk 13.01.2010 | ah one piece of feedback about the two juggle 1-4 and 5-8 buttons. why not have the second button work as a juggle 1-8 for the deck in focus? |
| Leota Saniuk 13.01.2010 | hmm my vci-100 seems to be totally spazzing out. i am a bit worried that i might just be on firmware 1.2, because i for example cannot get the right SYNC button to stick. but turning the VCI off and pressing the FX preset 2 while turning it back on isnt fixing anything either. at any rate the play button just briefly turns playback on, but even if i hold it immediately stops again. various other buttons are also mis-behaving. here is the output from midi monitor when i press the right sync button and then press the play button. does that look right: http://screencast.com/t/MTk3YjBjOTYt |
| Wilton Schelter 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by EanGolden
My laptop is rather beefy, so don't believe it could be that . I would have guessed its the same thing thats stopping LEDS working/flashing properly with windows systems? |
| Mac Fly 13.01.2010 | Im gonna give this a try when the bugs are a bit more ironed out and I dont have a gig long enough to practise. I was just wondering if this mapping was directly complimenting the midifighter? Meaning that they should work together in a way? |
| Earnest Spink 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by EanGolden
this might help: This link is to a thread (directly page 8) with the "workaround" of the lock-up problem when having the VCI-100 as midi out device and going crazy with midi communication: http://djranking s.com/community /showthr...?t=6792&page=8 Here another one: http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=2321 There are and were more than these two. TSI 3_0: Missing Feature?: 1. Shift and jogwheel does not store cue points anymore. 2. Can I still change the effects by selecting the FX Bank and using shift and the effects knob (at work and can't test)? If not I believe that would be great [/B] Comments and thoughts: Love the new effects section. Powerful and easy to use. Gives me quick access to the effects I generally use. Love the presets. Do not the drop function (shift and cue) - not easy to use on the fly and also not when searching a point to cue. Will have to get use to this or remap somehow. First thought: This TSI has a better workflow to it than the last ones did. |
| Khalilah Srp 13.01.2010 | i hear a noise when i push the route fx button good luck and thanks for all your work!!! |
| 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by advx
Originally Posted by autonic
Originally Posted by Leon.R
Originally Posted by Sasha Solo
Originally Posted by Mr.Nicklebe
that may be your laptop freaking out as the vci-100 sends out LED data to every button at once. it may just be too much for your lappy and we may need to address that.
Originally Posted by Leon.R
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| Earnest Spink 14.01.2010 | Addition to the Bugs: -the loaded preset lighting does not work. Most of the time preset two will be lit - the others don't light up. |
| Earnest Spink 14.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by Mr.Nicklebe
My experience so far. Bugs, Problems and improvements: 1. The fader FX Mode disenganging when using the dedicated echo or slice buttons is in my opinion disturbing. I believe that should be changed. 2. If you do not use the sample button all lights and effects will work (in my tests up till now). The Sampler is seriously fu |
| Mack Rehberger 14.01.2010 | If i use fx preset 4 on deck A, my crossfader controls dry/wet. Is this supposed to? I must note that i have FW 1.2 still waiting for my upgrade kit. I also don't know if i am going to use tsi 3.0 yet. |
| Wilton Schelter 13.01.2010 | Well found out what i believe to be a bug. Or atleast something that should be fixed. The fader FX mode turns itself off for FX banks 1 and 2 when you start using FX banks 3 and 4 for the echo or slice. So for example you're rocking out with FX bank 1 with Fader FX and whatever FX preset you want and deside to chuck in some Echo or slice but doing this turns off Fader FX making any fader adjustments affect the deck volume or tempo instead. Hope i made myself clear! |
| Suzanna Paddock 13.01.2010 | Really nice streamlining of the graphics! looks more pro. As far as the new tsi, it's always 'ah shoot, i was just getting good enough with the other tsi that I can use it without believeing (more beer please ) Now it's back to square one, but some features look really cool, so can't wait to try it...' What about a discount for previous overlay buyers? gonna try this later toevening . |
| Wilton Schelter 13.01.2010 | Well been using this TSI for about 40 minutes now. Thought i'd give my first impressions... It took a while to realise that FX banks 3 and 4 were purely for the slice and echo features. And it took me bloody ages to work out the FX bank routing. I still dont really like it. As another guy said, I also used to use the 4 little buttons all the time for effects routing, changing my routing every minute or so sometimes. The new FX routing system seems much more clumsy. I don't know if its just glitches in the TSI but my laptop momentarily glitches out when i hold down the FX route button, this results in the track slowing down slightly and sounding very weird. Almost as if i've turned on the beatslice, gater and started fiddling with the pitch control at the same time. Very glitchy. Also i couldn't get the sampler to work at all. I didnt really understand what you meant by pressing the headphone button then a light starts blinking? I didnt see any lights blinking on my VCI or on my screen. Someone else said there are issues with Windows and MIDI light commands? Well thats a massive bummer for me and every other windows user... I also noticed that many of the other lights on my VCI seemed to bug out, get stuck turned on or not turn on at all when I thought they were probably supposed to. Also there were various what seemed like bugs with the FX selecting buttons. With effects not being able to turn off. At one point i had managed to get the beatmasher stuck on. Took a while to work out how to turn it off Overall it seems way more complex, which i'm not sure right now is a good or bad thing. I never used all 4 FX banks before so I have to get used to that. I will keep playing around with the mapping and work out how to use these effects properly Can't believe of any other stuff to moan/rant about I'm sure most of the bugs will be ironed out over the next couple of weeks. Oh and one last point, the new slice feature + the echo + Fader FX = TOTAL COOLAGE. Like seriously, when i tried that out it was so awesome. |
| Merlyn Komula 13.01.2010 | Great work Ean, nice mapping! a couple of things! I'm running Tpro 1.2.3 FW 1.3 " while holding down SLICE and ECHO try messing with the jog wheels. its way cool. " Does no always work, most of the time I usually either get echo or slice very rarely they common together! "to load presets 1-4, hold the preset and press the headphone button on the deck you want. Then, turn on fader FX to work with the preset." Worked for me once and then stopped working! I cannot change the presets, only preset two stays on ! It would be great if you get the time to make a video of the whole layout and show us how everything works! Thanks man! SS |
| Earnest Spink 13.01.2010 |
Originally Posted by Abyrne7
Thx. I know of the solution. I had some randoms problems with stability after using bomes on one of my systems so I was working without it (you know, never touch a running system ). But yeah, I am aware that it works. A "official" solution would have been great (from NI). Back to topic TSI 3_0: Going to try it out this evening and can hardly wait |
| Mac Fly 13.01.2010 | Hey man we found a solution to this problem using Bomes and LoopBE1. Look it up on the community
s and your random cut out on Windows will be no more.
Originally Posted by Leon.R
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| Merlyn Komula 13.01.2010 | what is the zip for? the file in the zip is not tsi! someone? SS |
| Earnest Spink 13.01.2010 | Without even trying it yet - major bummer for a lot of us.... The whole "lights blinking" or "lights lighting up to indicate" thing is so unfortunate for the windows users. Having Midi Output set to the vci-100 (in order to make the lights works) windows users experience major crashes when for example using Fader FX Mode like crazy. by the way this has been covered in many threads Hope the onscreen indication of Traktor will be enough to know what is going on - not having to rely on hte light indication of the vci. Otherwise - looks great. |
| Al Henger 13.01.2010 | Looks good! only thing I can comment on is the fact that you now have to toggle through the effects assign, rather than using the 4 buttons. I find myself changing those a lot, but I guess if i really make a move to using the 4 fx slots, I can just assign them ahead of time. I've gotten so used to turning those tiny knobs, i'm going to have to readjust myself haha for switching to juggle and fader fx. Some quick questions. How does this workin in with 4 fx slots? How about with 4 deck control? and, what is the glitch knob in the top right? |
| Leota Saniuk 13.01.2010 | no routing through bome's .. so it goes. overall it looks nice, will play with it tomorrow. side note: this mapping seems to make it even more important to get a foot pedal, since in this mapping shift is used for more and more stuff that i need to access quickly and more important where i might want to do stuff with my other hand. would be great if you guys could look into USB foot pedal options and/or add foot pedal support to a future version of the midi fighter. |
| Karine Noe 13.01.2010 | Great template, lot of streamlining and further optimizing of the VCI-100's possibilities. I've got a question for ya though: How did you manage to get the function "Effect Button 1" to activate when the volume fader (in fx juggle mode) is turned all the way down? (so that the Delay echoes out) I've looked through the mapping file and the "Effect Button 1" function just isn't assigned to the midi-note that the volume fader emits - so how's it done? |
| Eleanore Neaville 13.01.2010 | Hm, previous posted overlay picture (http://www.djranking s.com/wp-conten...ted-Layout.png) are different with new one |
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