Vci-100se 3_0 mapping *beta*

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Vci-100se 3_0 mapping *beta*
Posted on: 13.01.2010 by
This mapping is no longer in beta and is officially launched. You can download the new mapping and provide feedback here:

http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=10733
Karine Noe
23.01.2010
Originally Posted by EanGolden
that is a custom feature of our 1.3 firmware. not possible any other way
Yea, but I've upgraded my VCI with your 1.3 firmware at i still can't figure it out?
Jolyn Brunello
20.01.2010
Originally Posted by lsmith
@calvin01: i believe there is enough working that it could be worthwhile to use it. especially if you plan on stick with the 3.x series afterwards. at the same time, it might be easier to start with one of the mappings that has a detailed walkthrough video.
thanx dude.i'll take your advice and load it.i suppose theres no point in getting used to 2.5 as i want to use 3.0 eventually.
Earnest Spink
19.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Anyone?
And if I may add - if your not too lazy go ahead and read about the workaround with loopbe and bomes.

Some of the "techheads" around here described it a bit.
I posted this on page two of this 3_0 thread (so anyone having lockups or the sounds might want to go with this workaround):

Quote Leon.R:

This link is to a thread (directly page 8) with the "workaround" of the lock-up problem when having the VCI-100 as midi out device and going crazy with midi communication:
http://djranking s.com/community /showthr...?t=6792&page=8

Here another one:
http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=2321

There are and were more than these two.
Earnest Spink
19.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Anyone?
Hi there,

let me say this...

I can reproduce a freeze of traktor accepting vci signals if i go crazy with midi ouput, e.g. 2 deck fader fx mode, on three of my different windows setups with three different soundcards!

From what I understand, it has to do with too much midi output between the vci and traktor.
AFTER installing loopbe and bomes I can't cause the freeze anymore!
The two additional programs seem to "thin out" the midi traffic.

And you know what, I just switched back to just the vci and traktor (changed the settings to not route through loopbe and bomes) and can cause a freeze of my DJ System and also have the noises (described in this thread with 3_0) when pressing the preset buttons!

PS: My DJ Setup is in the Signature.
Doug Bieling
19.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Why does this fix it? What is causing the noise? Is it a traktor bug or a vci bug ?
Anyone?
Doug Bieling
17.01.2010
Originally Posted by vageotter
got itr fixed with loopbe1 and bomes!!
thanks guys
Why does this fix it? What is causing the noise? Is it a traktor bug or a vci bug ?
Oretha Plows
28.01.2010
Hi there this might be a silly question but i was just wondering if someone could tell me some new sections work

1.The FX section
2.The slice and echo buttons
3.sampler

27.01.2010
This mapping is no longer in beta and is officially launched. You can download the new mapping and provide feedback here:

http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=10733
Sari Bhattacharya
26.01.2010
Any word on when we will be seeing the legitimate 3_0 mapping? In the meantime I will continue to have fun tearing these tables to shreds, !
Karine Noe
23.01.2010
Originally Posted by EanGolden
that is a custom feature of our 1.3 firmware. not possible any other way
Yea, but I've upgraded my VCI with your 1.3 firmware at i still can't figure it out?
Tawnya Shepp
20.01.2010
Now I'm still getting the hang of understanding "Midi Mappings"...soo I don't really know, why this worked for me, but I'd thought I share.

My Setup:
Mac Book Pro (Leopard OSX 10.5.8 )
Indigo DJx SoundCard
VCI-100SE [Arcade Styleeee]

@calvin01 I can understand your frustration, but @lsmith is Right, it is SOOO Worth it!!

I attached the current .tsi that I'm using.
If you follow all the tips in the earlier part of the thread, and make sure all of your adjustments are correct and load it up! You can have some fun, and start killin' it with your New Gear :-)

BUGS:
-The EQ FX led stays lit, in DECK A, but works
-My Deck C is being strange...says "Audio Through" and won't load up tracks
-My Deck D loads, works, but LED stays lit
-Juggle LED stays lit, (but I control it from from 3rd knob away, so it works)

*Note(s): Press the "Juggle" button, so that you can restart your songs whenever. Personally, this is something that tripped me up for a bit.
*For my Deck A, the EQ knobs were controlling my FX1 for Deck A (no idea why!) So pushing the EQ FX, fixes this, and allows your Low/Mid/Hi Control again.

Hope this helps!!
Enjoy
~Lady Lane~
Jolyn Brunello
20.01.2010
Originally Posted by lsmith
@calvin01: i believe there is enough working that it could be worthwhile to use it. especially if you plan on stick with the 3.x series afterwards. at the same time, it might be easier to start with one of the mappings that has a detailed walkthrough video.
thanx dude.i'll take your advice and load it.i suppose theres no point in getting used to 2.5 as i want to use 3.0 eventually.

20.01.2010
Thanks guys for the awesome bug testing! 7 pages of great feedback. We have a lot of work to do today and tomorrow. This weekend is D-day for getting this mapping bug free and ready for the public!
Leota Saniuk
20.01.2010
@calvin01: i believe there is enough working that it could be worthwhile to use it. especially if you plan on stick with the 3.x series afterwards. at the same time, it might be easier to start with one of the mappings that has a detailed walkthrough video.
Jolyn Brunello
20.01.2010
it seems everyone is having 1 problem or another at the moment.is anyone using this new mapping without problems?.i ask because i've only just got my vci and am new to traktor so im trying to get used to mixing with it and am dont want to try the new mapping at the mo incase its not functioning right as i wouldn't know if it was me or the mapping doing something wrong.thanx
Earnest Spink
19.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Anyone?
And if I may add - if your not too lazy go ahead and read about the workaround with loopbe and bomes.

Some of the "techheads" around here described it a bit.
I posted this on page two of this 3_0 thread (so anyone having lockups or the sounds might want to go with this workaround):

Quote Leon.R:

This link is to a thread (directly page 8) with the "workaround" of the lock-up problem when having the VCI-100 as midi out device and going crazy with midi communication:
http://djranking s.com/community /showthr...?t=6792&page=8

Here another one:
http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=2321

There are and were more than these two.
Earnest Spink
19.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Anyone?
Hi there,

let me say this...

I can reproduce a freeze of traktor accepting vci signals if i go crazy with midi ouput, e.g. 2 deck fader fx mode, on three of my different windows setups with three different soundcards!

From what I understand, it has to do with too much midi output between the vci and traktor.
AFTER installing loopbe and bomes I can't cause the freeze anymore!
The two additional programs seem to "thin out" the midi traffic.

And you know what, I just switched back to just the vci and traktor (changed the settings to not route through loopbe and bomes) and can cause a freeze of my DJ System and also have the noises (described in this thread with 3_0) when pressing the preset buttons!

PS: My DJ Setup is in the Signature.
Doug Bieling
19.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Why does this fix it? What is causing the noise? Is it a traktor bug or a vci bug ?
Anyone?
MINOL D
18.01.2010
Was fookn aboot on it, this is what i have found using 1.2.3 FW 1.3

The load presets are working fine for me when u hold 1-4 make sure you push the headphones twice, this loads the effects then sets them.

JUGGLE was loading turntable fx or stretch cant remember changed it in midi settings but still having problems with it.

Slice -Keep finger on and turn the jog wheel for cool build up effect. if another effect is on slicer like when you use sampler and you engage it plays the effect and doesn't load slicer

Echo - Working, keep finger on echo for echo(u don't say) touch jog wheel for freeze effect touch again to turn off.

MASH & REVERB where slice and echo are, i cant get them doing anything maybe you have not got round to it yet, i don't no.

Sync - I dont like sync toggle so i changed it to hold on decks B & D but i noticed A & C were already on this but it was toggle when pressed, I changed in midi settings but i cant get it to work as hold.

Whats up with this, how do i change it?

Can any one else confirm what i have said or is this just on my end?

Cant wait till this is fully finished,believe it is gona be a monster of a tsi.
Jeannette Heads
17.01.2010
I got this worked out. I added an in for sync mapped to C6 and set to hold, and changed the out for the sync mapped to a#4 from ch02 to ch01.
Jeannette Heads
17.01.2010
Activating a loop on deck B momentarily activates sync, and the sync light flashes (as was the behavior in 2.5). This doesnt work on deck A. I can add the funtionality to make loop activation momentarily sync, but I can't get the corresponding sync light flash to work. There's some strange mapping on the A side that doesnt correspond at all with the way it's mapped on the B side.
Many Atia
16.01.2010
haven't read through the thread, but grabbing the jog wheel then touching slice/echo makes the track stop cold. Solution -> make slice/echo deactivate scratch mode so traktor "releases the platter" when you're trying to mess with the fx but touch the jog wheel too soon
Mireille Hagert
16.01.2010
I believe I've found another one that I don't believe has been mentioned.

When I am in the first efx preset on efx bank 1 (only in advanced efx mode), the X-fader controls the dry/wet. Which is pretty cool, but I don't want it to do this all the time. Maybe it's meant to do this?
Leota Saniuk
17.01.2010
not a bug report but some feedback. it would be nice to get quick access to the "freeze trick", that you introduced for changing tempos, via the new mapping. however if i briefly hit the echo button and then select the "freeze" fx button to prepare things, when i then hit the echo button again it deselects the "freeze" fx button. plus when i release the echo button it obviously also kills the fx assignment as well as disables the effect.

not sure if there is any way to get this done. obviously the FX 3/4 are reserved to these magic effect buttons, so there is also no way to just use the manual controls. obviously i can use FX 1/2 for this, but then i need to manually set up everything.

obviously shit+echo/slicer is already mapped to mash/reverb (though actually trying to use this breaks the entire magic effects as other people have reported already).
Doug Bieling
17.01.2010
Originally Posted by vageotter
got itr fixed with loopbe1 and bomes!!
thanks guys
Why does this fix it? What is causing the noise? Is it a traktor bug or a vci bug ?
Khalilah Srp
16.01.2010
Originally Posted by vageotter
i hear a noise when i push the route fx button

good luck and thanks for all your work!!!
got itr fixed with loopbe1 and bomes!!
thanks guys
Leota Saniuk
16.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Still not mapped the simple but very useful tool

When browse button is pressed the cursor should jump straight to the search box. Why this isn't standard in the mapping I don't know. Its amaazingly useful and stops the need to use the mouse to put it there manually.
+1
Mireille Hagert
15.01.2010
Think I've found a couple more maybe:

  • When I use the slice button along with the jog on deck A, stop touching the jog but with my finger still on the button, then at the same time use the delay and jog feature on deck B, when I stop using the delay then touch the jog on deck A again (finger still on slice) the jog does not change the slice FX but instead searches through the track.

  • When I have both fX bank 1 and 2 selected for deck A, then change FX preset, at the same time it turns off fx bank 2 on deck A. (And vice versa, i.e. When selecting deck B the fx is unselected)
Mireille Hagert
15.01.2010
After several hours of headache toevening I've finally upgraded the firmware to 1.3 (with a LOT of help from MisterMoleyMole, thanks)
Anyway I thought I best update my list of bugs as some have now been resolved with the new FW.

Filters now go a lot further down, but still not all the way, and they are still very erratic. i.e. go to different amounts each time.
Only button not to do anything in fx's bank 1 and 2 is the 2nd button out of the four (or the first actual fx button next to the dry/wet.)
Sync button now works on both sides

I still have the rest of the issues I mentioned.


Thanks again, I actually really like the new mapping now, more than I originally thought I would.
Doug Bieling
15.01.2010
  • When controlling deck D the echo button turns on the echo in fx bank 4 but does not route the fx to that deck.
  • When using the sampler (yes i have it working) if you start the other deck it appears to stop the sample
Doug Bieling
16.01.2010
Still not mapped the simple but very useful tool

When browse button is pressed the cursor should jump straight to the search box. Why this isn't standard in the mapping I don't know. Its amaazingly useful and stops the need to use the mouse to put it there manually.

It can be done as i have done it just don't see why it aint standard. I'm sure there must be a fair few others that map this in when we get a new mapping.

Sorry to rant a bit but I suggested this many releases ago..... i'm calm now

Anyway, back to playing

PS .... anyone worked out the buttons across the bottom yet that are supposed to do some more efx work?
Debroah Genteman
14.01.2010
I have to say that this mapping is by far the best one yet. Everything is laid out much smarter. I'm glad to see snap beat and quantize leave from such large useful buttons since I never used them once!
After only using this a couple evening s I am way impressed - can't wait for the overlay.
I never got used to the "fx on" buttons being where they are in 2.5
i never liked the vertical layout, and fx presets are way more useful anyways.
I love that fader fx and juggle are on buttons instead of dials. Not to be repetitive but this layout is so much smarter.
Having SLICE and ECHO under the platters is so sick - i always had those assigned in FX but this way is so much faster.
The only issues I have is that SAMPLE does nothing but lock up the VCI and MASH and REVERB do nothing at all. These issues seem well documented in this thread.

A friend of mine who is a top DJ turned me on to this site a less than a year ago and I love it. You really deserve more recognition for your efforts Ean.
I hope NAMM goes well for you - I told my coworkers to check out your booth because I truly believe THIS is the future of DJing.
Mireille Hagert
14.01.2010
Originally Posted by Zod
I've never had any issues with crashing under Windows, but I had this issue under 2.5 until I routed my midi out thru LoobBe1 then thru Bomes to my VCI.
thanks Zod, I took your advice and I'm no longer getting any of the unwanted noises I was gettinhg when pressing the rute fx or juggle mode buttons.
Jeannette Heads
15.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
- When you turn on the juggle buttons you get an audiable click type sound through the speakers
I've never had any issues with crashing under Windows, but I had this issue under 2.5 until I routed my midi out thru LoobBe1 then thru Bomes to my VCI.
Corey Holm
14.01.2010
I just wonder Ean or somebody else:
Why do u Midi Map the Re-Play button with "play/pause and jump to act cue instead of using only "Cue (Cue Play)? Is'nt that the same thing but only one Midi Map code?

More Bugs i found:
I cant get "Shift + Mash" and "Shift + Reverb" to work.
Mireille Hagert
14.01.2010
In addition the other things I pointed out earlier I also find a clicking/buzzing type noise when pressing certain buttons. The rute FX button does it, the two juggle mode buttons also do it.
Anabel Madeira
14.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Must be gettin old ... you crazy kids and your crazy urban speak

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=q4t
sorry... been on message boards/community s for far too long




never thought I'd be called a kid with 40 looming in the not too distant future
Leota Saniuk
14.01.2010
when i press and hold shift and press and hold play at the same time (to do re-play) and then release the shift and then release play, the play button is stuck at behaving like re-play until i press shift again.

PS: in case you prefer to get the bugs in a more structured manner, allowing people to more easily say "me too" and provide additional information you could use the google code project i setup for DJTT related development http://code.google.com/p/djtt/issues/list
Mireille Hagert
14.01.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Must be gettin old ... you crazy kids and your crazy urban speak

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=q4t

I must be getting old aswell, I didn't have a clue what q4t meant until you posted the link so thanks for that.
Doug Bieling
14.01.2010
Originally Posted by kewlbreeze
q4t
Must be gettin old ... you crazy kids and your crazy urban speak

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=q4t

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