MF Deckalized+Instant Grat Mapping

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MF Deckalized+Instant Grat Mapping
Posted on: 27.05.2011 by Jodi Lacerra
After a lot of requests and a long wait (sorry for it being so long) I finally got around to combining the original Deckalized mapping with the original Instant Gratification mapping for Traktor Pro.

The main reason I want to release this is that the new "Deckalized+IG" mappings (for the MF Pros) have changed the core effects layouts and there were a lot of people that just wanted a combination of the original Deckalized and IGs (which most people are now familiar with), which this pretty much is.

So far I only have one mapping of this type done (in Deckalized fashion where each deck associates with one MF) but I plan on finishing up Focus versions soon.

The one thing you will want to pay attention to is that the "Sampler" uses the Slicer single effect in FX3 and all of the combos use Grouped effects in FX3. So, when you are switching back and forth between FX types Traktor won't activate the effect initially. In those cases, you just need to do it once to switch the fx types and selections and then it will work as expected.

Also, in order to use the combos you need to have updated Midi Fighter firmware. Just try the Beatmasher one (all 4 mash buttons held down) and if that doesn't work, you probably need to update your firmware.

Lastly, I changed Combo4 because honestly, it wasn't that cool before and I like what I changed it to better now.

[Updated post to include Focus mappings]
Jodi Lacerra
15.08.2011
Originally Posted by marinelli
I have an issue with the deckalized + ig focus mapping.

SHIFT + SYNC not only changes Deck Focus but messes around with my deck Layouts, too.
It jumps from one LAyout to another and sometimes even changes them.

What am I doing wrong?
The Deck Focus button should switch layouts between one where Decks C and D are slightly larger when Focus is on one of those decks and back to them being smaller when the Deck Focus is on Decks A or B.

If you want to remove the deck layout function from changing when going from Deck Focus B->C and D->A, go into the Controller Manager, select this mapping, sort by comments, and look for two lines labeled "Deck Layout". Delete those lines and your deck layout will no longer change when switching Deck focus.
Maryalice Zwahlen
10.08.2011
Jst found out another bug, again with the loop functions...

sometimes, very unregularly the loopsize you set with a MF isnt actually played. E.g. you set a 16 bar loop and traktor shows that a 16 bar loop is active, but it only plays an 8 bar loop.

also once you set a loop with far left button in second row and then try to change size of it by pressing shift + any button in third row from top the loop screws up completely in size. the display in traktor is still correct according to the commands you put in through MF but it actually plays something completely different.

This is very annoying! Does someone have the same issues? Can it be fixed please?
Maryalice Zwahlen
09.08.2011
Yah, Im not sure. Ive just connected my VCI and everything works perfectly. So I reckon it mst be a MF issue actually. I mst admit that the longer I use it the more bugs and stuff come up, at the moment I have the impression MFs are quite unreliable.

What happens is when i set a loop in deck A and then switch to deck B the light at the loop active button (second row from top, far left button) is already lit, even though Ive only set a loop for deck A. The same thing happens vice versa. However the loop in deck B is not active in traktor (it is not green!) but it plays the loop. In order for me to get rid of the loop in deck B i must undo the loop in A! Completely strange, not excited. This happened out of nowhere, very very strange...
Tatum Ansaldo
09.08.2011
Very weird! Try reinstalling Traktor, and if that doesn't work then email NI.
Maryalice Zwahlen
09.08.2011
DAMN! Whats going on?
Couldnt figure it out! Imported mapping again many times (yes, with import button!), restarted traktor, restarted computer, tried everything... just fucked in the face actually. When i set a loop on either deck a or b it sets the loop on the other deck as well. and on top of that it doesnt even show the active loop in the other deck. WTF is going on???
Maryalice Zwahlen
09.08.2011
Aight, will try that!
Tatum Ansaldo
09.08.2011
Sorry mate got no idea. Try reimporting the mapping twice with the big import button.
Maryalice Zwahlen
09.08.2011
Traktor pro. not 2 though.
Tatum Ansaldo
09.08.2011
Hmmm. So it's making a loop but not going green in the display? That is very odd. And only when you set a loop on deck B? Which version of Traktor are you using?
Maryalice Zwahlen
09.08.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Is it activating a beatmasher or slicer on Deck A?
no.
Tatum Ansaldo
09.08.2011
Is it activating a beatmasher or slicer on Deck A?
Maryalice Zwahlen
09.08.2011
Out of nowhere I am experiencing some issues with the deckalized A+B mapping.

when the deck focus is on B and i set a loop, it also sets a loop on deck A even though Traktor doesnt show that A has an active loop running...? Help anyone?
Velma Blackerby
08.08.2011
that won't work for me, i need the layouts
Tatum Ansaldo
08.08.2011
Strange problem. Did you guys try the standard fix of reimporting the mapping twice with the big import button? Maybe try importing layout settings with the tsi (one of the tick box options with the big import button).

Using the TP1 VCI-100 mapping with TP2 changed my layouts when I did something, I can't for the life of me remember what it was though! It turned out to be an easy fix with a couple of command changes in the mapping. Have a look through and see if there are layout commands in there.
Adria Kuennen
08.08.2011
Originally Posted by marinelli
I have an issue with the deckalized + ig focus mapping.

SHIFT + SYNC not only changes Deck Focus but messes around with my deck Layouts, too.
It jumps from one LAyout to another and sometimes even changes them.

What am I doing wrong?

I had the same issue that you have. I ended up deleting all but one layout and I found that the SHIFT + SYNC no longer screwed up my layouts.

Obviously if you use multiple layouts this isn't a fix, but since I always use the same layout, deleting all the extras solved the problem for me.
Velma Blackerby
08.08.2011
I have an issue with the deckalized + ig focus mapping.

SHIFT + SYNC not only changes Deck Focus but messes around with my deck Layouts, too.
It jumps from one LAyout to another and sometimes even changes them.

What am I doing wrong?
Neta Schlaefli
03.08.2011
IS there a diagram for this one? with shift functionality and all that good stuff?
Federico Vilas
03.08.2011
when i DL it and try to extract file it sd there's nothing to extract?
Maryalice Zwahlen
23.07.2011
Yo Gents!

Can anyone tell me how to imply a "Move-Loop" function into this mapping?
That is the only thing I need to use my MF as a sole controller.

I dont need the beat juggling or anything so that can be replaced... Im just not sure how to add a new function into the mapping that uses two buttons (namely "shift" and any other button)... Can anyone help here?
Delmar Swamy
18.07.2011
Alright thanks though, It's an awesome mapping
Jodi Lacerra
18.07.2011
Originally Posted by DJBambii
Is Ean or some one else gonna do a video to cover this mapping? It would help me understand it a lot easier XD
unfortunately i don't believe you will see any videos for this mapping. this combined mapping is something i did on my own because of community and personal interest.
Jodi Lacerra
18.07.2011
Originally Posted by DJBambii
Does this require 4 banks mode? (I wanna use the AB Focus)
This mapping DOES NOT USE 4 BANKS MODE. Please turn it off it you want to use this mapping or else it won't work correctly.
Delmar Swamy
15.07.2011
Is Ean or some one else gonna do a video to cover this mapping? It would help me understand it a lot easier XD
Maryalice Zwahlen
12.07.2011
another question: how would i implement a loop-moving function into the mapping without fuckin it up completely? That is the only thing that is missing for my taste (also to seek through a track quicker without having to use the laptop or another controller). If that could be implemented it would be perfect!
Maryalice Zwahlen
12.07.2011
Originally Posted by DJBambii
Does this require 4 banks mode? (I wanna use the AB Focus)
It doesnt work in 4 bank mode. tried it and failed.
Maryalice Zwahlen
12.07.2011
Got a small problem with the loop function. i changed the values in loop mode on the third row from the top to 1 (far left) to 16 (far right). But now when i set a 16 bar loop and change the size of it while its playing it (a) doesnt always stick to the loop, but every fourth bar it goes longer - at least when i set a 1bar loop and (b) the pitch of the track changes (totally weird!). Do you know why that is?
Delmar Swamy
13.07.2011
Does this require 4 banks mode? (I wanna use the AB Focus)
Wallace Ferraro
02.07.2011
Doesnt work for me, Bank 1 works but not the slicer part ( it worked once ). Bank 2 works at the bottom row ( play, cue sync etc) , its weird. When I use learn for the not working buttons the signal don't match the onces on the mapping.

I have reinstalled the firmware, but its still the same.

However I do get the normal instant grat 4 banks one to work. Strange isnt it?
Candra Kupke
24.06.2011
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Archie Ynoa
13.06.2011
ok,,, i have a question.. i just recieved my MF pro BM... i have a classic MF also.. if i use the MF Deck + Grad mapping, which zip file should i use for the other deck?


PS... my bad for being a dumbass, but right now im just using my MF classic with the instant grad mapping 4 banks mode.
Tatum Ansaldo
13.06.2011
no worries dude, good luck.
Dewayne Liddicoat
13.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Absolutely makes sense, if you come up with a viable concept start a thread about it (adding a poll adds interest lol). This mapping is partly a result of a poll I started a couple of months back asking for something quite similar to what you want, and for me what flashflooder's made is perfect.

Draw up a detailed diagram, start a thread and if you get support he might manage to make time for it.
Excellent. Thanks for the information!
Tatum Ansaldo
13.06.2011
Absolutely makes sense, if you come up with a viable concept start a thread about it (adding a poll adds interest lol). This mapping is partly a result of a poll I started a couple of months back asking for something quite similar to what you want, and for me what flashflooder's made is perfect.

Draw up a detailed diagram, start a thread and if you get support he might manage to make time for it.
Dewayne Liddicoat
13.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
lol, dude, that's what you're looking at. it's the whole point of this thread.
Ahh I should have been clearer

Basically not looking to use Deckanized as a deck replacement of any kind; just looking to see if the sample functionality can be imported. According to the layout indicator above, this version still uses the Sync/Pause etc instead of the four deck selector at the top. I'm looking for a Instant Gratification base (ie, with the four deck selector across the top), but with the functionality of being able to record/beatslice with the eight bottom buttons like the Deckanized. Does that make more sense?

IE: This seems to be a Deckanized base mapping with Instant Grat effects; is there an Instant Grat base mapping with Deckanized effects?
Tatum Ansaldo
13.06.2011
Originally Posted by Lowahn
Is there something that hybridizes the two
lol, dude, that's what you're looking at. it's the whole point of this thread.
Dewayne Liddicoat
13.06.2011
So between this and Instant Grat, looks like they're some amazing tools here, but just a quick question; Using an S4, the Instant Grat mapping is absolutely perfect; but the beatslicing/recording on the decanized looks pretty cool as well. Granted this could be done on the S4 using the record/beat slicer plugin, but that would involve changing the prebuilt effects the IG mapping would need. Is there something that hybridizes the two or should I start looking on how to program this thing hehe
Tatum Ansaldo
12.06.2011
have you reflashed with latest firmware?
Carin Mcalevy
11.06.2011
imported and all settings were correct howver supercombos dont work
Tatum Ansaldo
09.06.2011
Did a quick layout diagram for y'alls. Top function is normal, bottom function is Shift layer. Just for anyone who's completely lost. This is for the focus mappings, in the deckalized version Shift+sync loads next track.

The Mash buttons are also loops in shift mode, but I can't check the values as I'm not at home. The bottom 8 buttons are hotcues in juggle mode (enabled by shift+sample when sampler is not active, cues 1-4 on bottom row, 5-8 on second row), and slice values in sampler mode (hit sample then shift sample)

Tatum Ansaldo
09.06.2011
No idea mate. What happens when you click the download links in the first post of this thread?

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