Sosik's VCI-300 2D TSI [BETA]
Sosik's VCI-300 2D TSI [BETA] Posted on: 28.02.2009 by Velvet Schinke 2 Sleepless evening
s and here we go - my vci-300 mapping is almoust done.I'm not a professional dj or a producer, started recently and it seems to work out slowly. What you will get here is my Traktor Pro 1.1.1 mapping for vci-300 which I tried to make Itch-like as much as possible. So basicly you will have such functions as CUE/PLAY, PFL A/B, SCROLL, Playlist/Browser Navigation, AUTO TEMPO / SYNC, SHIFT, EQ's, AUTO LOOP and all other basic stuff beside CUE's, working like they should(I hope :P). Also I set up a realy nice FX1(chained) interface on the controller, hope you will like it. All kind of feedback is appreciated, its beta and still requires alot of work. HOW TO USE? All basic functions are same as Itch. Navigation: - UP/DOWN to select up and down in the list/tree - TAB to switch between tree and list - BACK/FWD to Collapse/Expand the tree - SCROLL to scroll with left or right Jog's through list - [SCROLL] + PFL A/PFL B to load a track into deck A/B - PFL A/PFL B to turn monitor for deck A/B on - AUTO LOOP to activate loop of set size - HALF / DOUBLE to change size of AUTO LOOP - [SHIFT] + HALF / DOUBLE to move cue or loop one step to the left / right - AUTO TEMPO to synth the tempo and adjust slave to master - [SHIFT] + AUTO TEMPO to synth only - KEY LOCK to lock the key - [SHIFT] + KEY LOCK(left/right) to turn snap/quant mode on - [SHIFT] + BACK/FWD to copy deck A<B/A>B Misc: - [SHIFT] + CENSOR to activate filter - [SHIFT] + TRIM = Filter amount - [SHIFT] + X-Fader to seek through decks FX Chained(Left side): - [SHIFT] + CRATES activates the FX1 interface + LED "interface" on controller - TRIM = Dry/Wet, HIGHT/MID/LOW = Effect 1/2/3 Amount - CUE1/IN, CUE2/IN, CUE3/IN = Effect 1, 2, 3 Select Next - [SHIFT] + CUE1/IN, CUE2/IN, CUE3/IN = Effect 1, 2, 3 Select Previous - OUT1/LOOP, OUT2/LOOP, OUT3/LOOP = Effect 1, 2, 3 On(Hold) - [SHIFT] + OUT1/LOOP, OUT2/LOOP, OUT3/LOOP = Effect 1, 2, 3 On(Toggle) FX Advanced(Right side): - [SHIFT] + BROWSE activates the FX2 interface + LED "interface" on controller - TRIM = Dry/Wet, HIGHT/MID/LOW = Effect Param 1/2/3 - OUT1/LOOP = Effect Select Previous, OUT3/LOOP = Effect Select Next - CUE1/IN to reset parameters - OUT2/LOOP = Dry/Wet(Hold) - [SHIFT] + OUT2/LOOP = Dry/Wet(Toggle) - CUE2/IN, CUE3/IN = Effect Button 1, 2(Hold) - [SHIFT] + CUE2/IN, CUE3/IN = Effect Button 1, 2(Toggle) - [SHIFT] + PITCH SHIFT UP/PITCH SHIFT DOWN turns Effect Unit 1/2 on EQ while in FX(Both sides): - [SHIFT] + HIGHT/MID/LOW = EQ - HIGHT/MID/LOW Cue(basic): - CUE1/IN, CUE2/IN, CUE3/IN Select Hotcue 1, 2, 3 Fixes(temporary): - [SHIFT] + FILES to reset tempo bend to 0.0% UPDATES(04.05.09) New in 0.2: - Smart Scratching* Scratch on fly while playing(Itch-like) - FX2 Advanced Easy to use control with nice LED interface - Fully functional middle controller part Browsing, track loading, cue monitoring, everyting Itch-like with some smart controls - Added many new controls to cover more TPro functions - Fixed some bugs for better VCI-300 - TPro interaction - Few small tweaks New in 0.2.1 - 0.2.2: - X-Fader seek - Small fix to reset Tempo Bend to 0.0% (accurate for 1/10% only) Even TP build in function to reset tempo does not fully reset it - Added description for filter control - Added EQ mode "while in FX mode" * Since TPro is mixing up signals of both jog-wheels I would not recommend you to scratch with both at the same time. Have fun! | |
| Nell Gomezgomez 20.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by netwerks
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| Serina Kouri 18.06.2009 |
Originally Posted by Ivan77
Ivan, could you post your TSI? Did you use the latest TSI of Soulst to adapt this? |
| Andriy Gavrysh 18.06.2009 |
Originally Posted by zlonik
if you don't - well let's just say you're screwed! (esp. if you have your pitch set to more than 10%)
Originally Posted by zlonik
it's simply a traktor issue (i'm pretty sure about that), maybe the geniuses at DJTT find some genius solution for their official vci-300 mapping... if not - well, that'd be a BIG argument against traktor... |
| Toni Beechner 19.07.2010 | Latest Traktor TSI (June/July 2010) for VCI-300 can be found from this thread: http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=15455 |
| Nell Gomezgomez 20.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by netwerks
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| Oswaldo Appeldorn 22.03.2010 | Hello i don't why but no hotcue (1,2,3) for me. tx for help |
| Nell Gomezgomez 14.03.2010 | Hi I loaded this TSI and everything works great except when I scrub the track with the jog wheel it seems like something is not right. Like its not as sample accurate when scrubbing like it's skipping or something. I have my latency set to 30ms, tried on both pc and mac 1.2.4 and 1.2.3 Playback is rock solid it's only the scrubbing that has this issue. Anyone have an idea what could cause this? |
| Anissa Ciano 06.10.2009 | imo this is one off the best tsi there is, but one big problem i cat use my HDJ2000 i traktor when using this. I dont know what to do. i can hear 1 off the players, not at same time as i should. Could anyone help ? ! |
| Oswaldo Appeldorn 10.09.2009 | Hey, i don't know how to start the cue, the button don't work for me. And anyway can you tell me how can i set my effects plz? |
| Dallas Casa 22.06.2009 | The changes that I`ve made are so minor that anyone will be able to do it themselves. As I said, the only changes I`ve made is to invert the Master/Cue-Knob so that it corresponds to what the "overlay" on the devise actually says(master to the left, cue to the right. This is the exact oposite inside TSP software). Adding basskill to Censor is also a piece of cake. I`ve never done any mapping at all and this took me 2 minutes. Our last hope and resort for pitch bend problem redemption is DJ Tech Tools. You have worked on the VCI-300 TSI for what seems like ages now. Please take us out of our misery and release your mindaltering TSI now before the summer breaks for real. In DJTechTools I trust!!! PS: Dont hesitate to send me a private message DjOc if there is anything I can do to help on the minor changes that I`ve made. |
| Serina Kouri 18.06.2009 |
Originally Posted by Ivan77
Ivan, could you post your TSI? Did you use the latest TSI of Soulst to adapt this? |
| Dallas Casa 18.06.2009 | Im also willing to pay for it. If it was`nt for the glitches in the pitch bend when you use the jogs to adjust your mix, Soiks TSI would be perfect! I`ve only made 2 changes to the mapping and that is Bass Kill @ Censor and Inverted Master/Cue @ Master/Cue-knob. I never use sync, my only wish is to use the VCI 300 with Traktor in exactly the same way as I use my vinyl decks! Please DJTechTools give us a TSI that rips our face off!! |
| Serina Kouri 18.06.2009 | Its a pitty. I love Traktor as soft and love my VCI300. For life performance I always switch back to Itch. Indeed the beat sync on Traktor is way more accurate than the Itch one. Plus no effects on Itch (but you can use an extra module for this) I confirm that for Live Performance you should use Itch on the VCI300. You can only use Traktor if you use beatsync. The beatsync is very accurate for Dance/Trance/Electro/House... where a clear beat is defined on the Track. For more complex tracks like Downtempo, Rap, ... where you have a lot of breaks and changes in tempo many times you will have to set a beat grid in Traktor. Im comming from Vinyl so beatsync I dont use it so often. If you did not buy a VCI300 yet, buy a VCI100 for Traktor use as its wel supported by DJTT. Its a pitty there is no support from DJTT for the VCI300 yet which is by many people seen as the successor of the VCI100. Anyway thks to everybody for the effort so far in creating a mapping for Traktor/VCI300 use. Soulst you are pretty close to have the perfect mapping. Great job so far and is really appreciated. I hope that soon a mapping will be available which allows most of the critical functions for stable live perfomance. Im even willing to pay for it |
| Andriy Gavrysh 18.06.2009 |
Originally Posted by zlonik
if you don't - well let's just say you're screwed! (esp. if you have your pitch set to more than 10%)
Originally Posted by zlonik
it's simply a traktor issue (i'm pretty sure about that), maybe the geniuses at DJTT find some genius solution for their official vci-300 mapping... if not - well, that'd be a BIG argument against traktor... |
| Dinorah Blyskal 16.06.2009 | First of all, thank you very much for the TSI. It's the best one we have at the moment! However, I confirm to have the same problem - you never know what pitch value you'll get when you release the jog after adjusting the track. And this is extremely sad. Very-very Here's my crazy guess relying on a distant memories of Flash programming: Possibly on a "Touch Jog" event (if there is any) you can set some unimportant variable (like unused effect value, etc.) to current pitch value in order to read it back and reset pitch to it later, on a "Release Jog" event. I have not yet looked into mapping though, so I apologize if idea is a complete rubbish. |
| Dallas Casa 16.06.2009 | I use scratch at the beginning of a mix. Just like you would if you played regular vinyl. I then switch of scratch and use the jogs to pitch bend. Can you send me a screen shot of where I adjust the settings? I dont really understand what you mean. |
| Velvet Schinke 15.06.2009 | DjOc Ah!))) I elaborated on the problem already - if you make more than 6 LEDs blink for the sweet level meter, traktor will start collapsing... So you either have to wait for NI to do better job on that or just be creative yourself(tip: choose blend option in each led). I mean the mapping, Ivan77. The scratch/pitch has sensitivity options. Is it possible for you to fix this permanently? As I said earlier I have to press shift+files every singel time I use the jogs to pitch bend. A bit tiredsome If you do not use scratch then just go and adjust sensitivity and the other option, in the mapping, as low as possible(0%? ). |
| Dallas Casa 15.06.2009 | I dont understand what you mean soulst. Do you mean adjusting the mapping or adjusting pitch bend sensitivity in preferences of Traktor? On the side: Is this problem a problem inside Traktor and also the reason why the phase meter acts strangely when I use Time code vinyl, regular decks and regular mixer? Is it possible for you to fix this permanently? As I said earlier I have to press shift+files every singel time I use the jogs to pitch bend. A bit tiredsome One the side again: Does anybody know when DJ-Techtools will release their official VCI 300 Tsi for TSP? |
| Serina Kouri 15.06.2009 | DjOc "Just missing LED feedback." What do you mean? All mapped function have corresponding LED's.[/QUOTE] I ment LED feedback from the level meters. All mapped functions have indeed corresponding LED's. |
| Velvet Schinke 14.06.2009 | Shift+Files was a temporary solution. The problem is the sensitivity you set in Scratch + Pitch Bend options in the mapping. Try setting it down, the lower you go the better will the synth work. DjOc "Just missing LED feedback." What do you mean? All mapped function have corresponding LED's. |
| Serina Kouri 12.06.2009 | I confirm. If you dont use beat sync you simply cant use Traktor or you will find yourself out of sync many times. In Itch it works fine to adjust the pitch with the jogs. Traktor too but only tried on a VCI100 of a friend. Soulst, counting on you. For the rest great mapping. Just missing LED feedback. |
| Dallas Casa 12.06.2009 | PS: I dont use sync, I beatmix manually. |
| Dallas Casa 12.06.2009 | I`ve found a temporary sollution to the problem. If you press shift + Files it resets the speed to the correct value. The only fucked up thing about this is that you have to press Shift + Files every singel time you make a pitch adjustment. Please find a genious way around this Soulst |
| Velvet Schinke 10.06.2009 | Hey guys. Thanks for still being interested in my mapping. Sorry I couldn't update it recently. I'm pretty busy at work lately so I don't have any time to work on mapping at the moment. The pitch thingy is annoying, I know. But thats the way traktors new pitch bend feature works with vci-300 signals. I will probably have more free time soon, but can't promise anything. I would really appreciate your feedback on my mapping so I can fix it asap and please post features you would like me to implement in my next release. |
| Marva Mallicoat 10.06.2009 | ^^ Yup. I get the same thing. You use the jog and it jumps and stays, then if you try to bring it back, it'll jump the other way. Pretty much leaves you unable to sync the tracks at that point, I believe. |
| Dallas Casa 10.06.2009 | There is something strange with the tempo bend when you use the jogs. Lets say the speed is 126,89 , I then need to pitch bend a little and gently push the jog forward. After I have pushed the speed settles on 127,16 ?? What the F%&/( ? If I try to pitch bend again it might go back to 126,89.... Its totally arbitrary. Has someone got an explaination for this? |
| Dallas Casa 07.05.2009 | Maybe you can invert the Master/cue-knob as well I managed to get bass kill on "censor" but I have no clue as to how I cant get the LED to light up when its pressed? |
| Cherry Stalions 05.05.2009 | maybe some BassKill @ Censor :P? |
| Cherry Stalions 05.05.2009 | the right FX Side doesnt work for me:C:C |
| Marva Mallicoat 05.05.2009 | Didn't get a chance to play around with it last evening , but will try the new TSI toevening after work. I'll keep you posted. |
| Velvet Schinke 04.05.2009 | "Maybe you could post them here so Soulst can keep them in mind while updating his mapping..." What Morbido said. Also feel free to post suggestions about features you would like to see in my next update. I'll try to implement them asap. Added temporary fix for Tempo Bend. [Edit]: Added EQ while in FX mode and few more little functions. |
| Andriy Gavrysh 05.05.2009 | NP icastel! What kind of glitches did you experience? Maybe you could post them here so Soulst can keep them in mind while updating his mapping... |
| Marva Mallicoat 04.05.2009 | The ASIO4ALL thing solved my distorted audio issues. After installing the software from the link provided, I went in Traktor to "File -> Audio Setup" and selected device ASIO4ALL v2 as my audio device (left the latency at 11.5ms. Then clicked the "Settings" button within that same window and selected the VCI there. Worked perfectly. Thanks Morbido! Now I need to spend some time and explore the functionality of the VCI with Traktor. I did mix for about 20 minutes just to make sure the mappings worked and saw what I believe were a few glitches, but it could've been just me. Will also try to put up a document with all I had to do step-by-step. I'll post later ... |
| Andriy Gavrysh 04.05.2009 | did you use the asio4all channels as input/output channels? as far as i know you have to do that... but i'm not sure (i'm on a mac), so maybe someone can confirm this? |
| Dallas Casa 04.05.2009 | The asio4ll sollution did not do it for my PC. |
| Cherry Stalions 03.05.2009 | great, im just waiting |
| Velvet Schinke 03.05.2009 | Thanks for all the support and feedback guys. I did not have any time to work on it lately. But there are more updates comming soon, probably during the week. |
| Andriy Gavrysh 02.05.2009 | icecastel: your solution is probably the same as ivan77's... just download asio4all (if you're on windows): http://www.asio4all.com/ additionally you can check you latency settings - don't set them below 10ms or you'll probably have your sound distorted... |
| Dallas Casa 02.05.2009 | 2 in 2 out doesnt work. The asio4all is probably the rhing, but where do I find it? |
| Marva Mallicoat 02.05.2009 | OK, dumb question, I loaded the TSI, set my midi setup to use the vci-300 (shows up as emulated) and TP seems to respond to the controller, but my sound is way too distorted. I'm pretty sure i'm doing something wrong, but can't figure out what. I know the setting in the Audio Setup section is set to "VCI-300 (2 In, 2 Out)". Can anyone help? By the way, props on the TSI file. Thanks! |
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