S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 4.4 Beta]
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S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 4.4 Beta] Posted on: 16.01.2012 by Rey Holubar Hi everyone,As promised, here is the next release of my (well our) mapping. I say "our", because I was so brash and have taken modes 5-7 from Alinements "rework" of the mapping and have used them to some degree to fill in the empty modes 5-7. Thanks goes to Alinement for coming up with the additional modes. Because this mapping has so many changes and I've not tested it as much as I'd like to, I am calling it a beta. So use at your own risk in a performance. If you are new to this mapping, there is a manual in the download zip file explaining how to use it. Also please read up in these threads, if you want to know how the mapping evolved. http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=39910 http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=40818 http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=43115 http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=43743 What's new in this mapping? 1. The filter is taken out of mode 4. 2. The T-3 delay has been replaced with just the delay effect in modes 1 and 2. (I am still not sure just the delay is right for mode 1.) 3. Added Alinement's modes 5-7. Here is how he explains them.
Mode 5 - I have added the Flangerflux/FilterPulse/Reverb from Ean's map (Chained FX mode 3). but I have replaced the reverb in the chained effects with a delay T3 that is activated only by FX Button 3 (as its best added in after the original effect takes shape). The Reverb from the original has been placed into the Advanced effect slot in Unit 3 (or 4) and is controlled by the Jog Wheel (along with the Flangerflux and Filterpulse)
Mode 6 - I have added the Beatmasher/LoFi/Filter92LFO (also from DJTT S4 mapping chained FX mode 1) Mode 7 - I have made this control just to control the Advanced effect slot in Unit 3 (or 4) for the BeatSlicer as to the exact specifications of Eans Mapping in DJTT Advanced FX Mode 1. So, that is it. Enjoy and have fun. Any feedback on issues or suggestions is very welcome! scamo Copyright and Usage Anyone can use this mapping free of charge for their own personal or professional use. It MAY NOT be uploaded to any other web site for download or passed on to third parties in its original or modified form without my authorization. | |
| Danny Evartt 03.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
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| Danny Evartt 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
I just upgraded yes. No it doesn't do it on every track... What do you mean re-analyze all my tracks? Please elaborate. Thanks for all your help!! |
| Rey Holubar 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by chicomodo
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| Danny Evartt 02.04.2012 | For some reason after loading tracks into deck A or B I can't view the full wavegrid on the bottom, along with the BPMs, and there's a black space on the right and the main wave grid doesn't take up the entire window.. Other than this I really like the mapping. Please let me know how I can fix this. Traktor problem.jpg |
| Randell Juna 26.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
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| Rey Holubar 08.04.2012 | Hey everyone. Well, I got 5.0 out. Happy Easter! http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=50054 scamo |
| Wiley Pollastrini 07.04.2012 | im pumped to play around with this mapping. thanks! |
| Rey Holubar 07.04.2012 | A bit. scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 07.04.2012 | Hello, are we any further to release of 5.0, scamo? Cheers. c |
| Rey Holubar 05.04.2012 | Unfortunately, I don't have a DJM 900 or have never used one to be honest. So I can't help you much there. scamo |
| Danny Evartt 03.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
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| Rey Holubar 03.04.2012 | I will definitely try and make sure my mappings work with every version of Traktor that may come. Let's hope NI doesn't screw anything up. scamo |
| Tamra Millus 03.04.2012 | I'm afraid! I do not wanna lose your mapping. Should I upgrade to 2.1.3 or should I wait for 2.5? Will you drop your 5.0 release on 2.5? |
| Rey Holubar 02.04.2012 | In the browser, right mouse click on the track that is defective and select "Analyze". You'll see Traktor's analysis status at the bottom. Once the analysis is finished, load it into a deck. If it looks good, then the problem was the analysis data. Any tracks that have the same problem will need the same procedure. scamo |
| Danny Evartt 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
I just upgraded yes. No it doesn't do it on every track... What do you mean re-analyze all my tracks? Please elaborate. Thanks for all your help!! |
| Rey Holubar 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by chicomodo
scamo |
| Rey Holubar 02.04.2012 | Does it happen with every track? Did you upgrade Traktor recently? I'd say the track analysis data has errors in it, which means you have to re-analyze all your tracks. Try doing it on a couple and see if they work correctly. Again, this has nothing to do with the mapping. scamo |
| Danny Evartt 02.04.2012 | For some reason after loading tracks into deck A or B I can't view the full wavegrid on the bottom, along with the BPMs, and there's a black space on the right and the main wave grid doesn't take up the entire window.. Other than this I really like the mapping. Please let me know how I can fix this. Traktor problem.jpg |
| Daniell Kosharek 28.03.2012 | scamo Since i downloaded your mapping and layout, its been a blast. Never used it on a gig or live, but have been testing for a while and found that your system is brilliant. But it doesn't work well for me, since i play with the four decks, but your mapping did an amazing job on opening my mind for user mappings, and i'm creating one mapping for me. So, could i use the amounts, effects, display buttons to create an awesome mapping for 4 decks, based on your work? if i post it as a downloadable mapping, ill absolutely credit you in every bit of awesomeness you've made |
| Lieselotte Veronee 28.03.2012 | Ok, so I finally got around to updating to 2.1.2 and many of my same problems persist. I've also tried redownloading the mapping and importing it again and it hasn't fixed any of the problems. Just a short list of things I've encountered that I don't believe are intentional functionality: 1. When in FX Mode and I press on the jog wheel it attempts to load the selected song in the browser. (did a temp fix on this by turning on only loading to stopped deck) 2. Pressing down on and turning the jog wheel barely adjusts the effects, and what little change it does make is immediately reset. However, if I don't press on the jog wheel but just turn it, the effect is not active but the levels adjust properly... It seems as if pressing down on the jog causes it to reset the effect over and over... Is this possibly a jog wheel calibration issue? That's all I can remember off the top of my head but I'm going to keep playing with it and see if I can notice anything else. |
| Lucia Boemer 26.03.2012 | Thanks for the explanation, and the great mapping. Looking forward to 5.0 |
| Randell Juna 26.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by scamo
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| Rey Holubar 26.03.2012 | Hi srdjedit, The problem with combining mappings that "take over" the effect units is my mapping doesn't account for that. It only accounts for you working with it alone. That is because a few commands to change things in the effects units only happen with the press of the load button. If you want to work between your MF classic and my mapping, then after working with the MF, you'd have to always turn off the Jog Wheel Effects mode on the S4 and turn it back on, then select the mode you want again. That isn't the best workflow, I know. Actually, believeing about this, 4.5 could actually improve this, since "everything" must be turned on with the touch of the jog in this new mapping. (I am actually believeing about calling it 5.0, since it is so different.) BTW, we are now 60-70% of the way there. I figure, if all goes well, I'll be able to release the next version on or around Easter. A nice Easter egg for everyone. scamo |
| Lucia Boemer 25.03.2012 | Has anybody got this working with the midi-fighter classic? If so do you (small) add your favorite MF classic mapping? I would like to combine this awesome Scamo mapping with a MF mapping that includes FX & cues, Thanks |
| Rey Holubar 25.03.2012 | Each device/ mapping has its own set of modifiers. So no, the modifiers between mappings don't negate or interfere with each other. But that is exactly the problem with mapping over the default S4 mapping. You just can't "stop" mapped functions in the default from the other mapping. You have to work around them. scamo |
| Malika Gise 25.03.2012 | Last question: do modifiers refer to specific pieces of hardware, or specific mappings? So if I am using two mappings on the S4 at the same time, and in the first one M1=2, would that mean that in the second one, M1=2 also? Thanks again! |
| Rey Holubar 24.03.2012 | You'll need Traktor Pro 2.1.2 for the mapping to work. I'll add that as a restriction in the next version, so it is in the manual. scamo |
| Lieselotte Veronee 23.03.2012 | So I followed the instructions in the doc and when I try to actually use the effect, pressing on the jog wheel only toggles the selected effects, and turning the wheel left or right does nothing... I'm believeing I might have a bad install of it but I have tried to import the settings multiple times. Another problem might be that I don't have the most up to date Traktor Pro. Has anyone experienced similar issues or know how to resolve them? |
| Rey Holubar 23.03.2012 |
A go-to echo freeze button that works no matter what
Ean's gater that basically only passes through the quarter notes (house party favorite!)
A beatmasher by itself
A way to toggle between sample decks vs. cuepoints 5-8 for Decks A/B
A way to incorporate a cueplay.
I see that Modifier 3 is unused, so I was believeing of setting up a trigger for Modifier 3, such that when it is on i can map anything I want to be in "Mr530" mode, and then when modifier 3 is off, it would just be the mapping "scamo mode." (Probably would use a foot pedal)
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| Malika Gise 23.03.2012 | Ah ok! I really am just looking to add a few quirks for my own routine. A go-to echo freeze button that works no matter what Add to the FX bank/replace: Ean's gater that basically only passes through the quarter notes (house party favorite!) A beatmasher by itself A way to toggle between sample decks vs. cuepoints 5-8 for Decks A/B A way to incorporate a cueplay. I know you are a really busy guy and its pretty self centered to ask you to do this for me, but could you point me in the right direction? I see that Modifier 3 is unused, so I was believeing of setting up a trigger for Modifier 3, such that when it is on i can map anything I want to be in "Mr530" mode, and then when modifier 3 is off, it would just be the mapping "scamo mode." (Probably would use a foot pedal) In order to do something like this, does that mean that I have to set all the existing mapping rules to require that m3=0? I guess this wouldn't be possible because you can only set two conditions? As somebody who works a lot in excel and programming I find the mapping process to be unbelievably roundabout! Thanks Scamo! |
| Rey Holubar 23.03.2012 | Hi Mr530, If I am correct in understanding what you are asking for, it isn't possible. You can only take my mapping and change it for your own use. If I come up with changes or improvements to my mapping, then you have to start from scratch again and rework your changes back into the newer version. That is why I want to also have a "blank" mapping with no effect groupings set up, so you can add what ever you want to it. If I can perfect 4.5 with the gain encoder as the effect mode selection knob, then there will also be quite a few additional effect modes empty too. scamo |
| Malika Gise 23.03.2012 | Hi scamo! I am pretty new to mapping (well, I understand the basics; however, I am not a veteran) Could you provide a tutorial (or at least just the thought process) on how to add personal FX using a separate mapping. For a Jogwheel FX, what things need to go on when I touch the jog wheel. And how do these fit in with the current set of modifiers. My thought is to have a separate mapping of just my FX banks, that way I can keep updating your mapping as you update. Would it be easy to toggle back and forth between mappings? Thank you so much. I really liked ean's mapping, but I feel so much more freedom with this one already. Thank you! |
| Hulda Ramprasad 23.03.2012 | Thanks for the update, scamo. And for your continued work on it. |
| Rey Holubar 23.03.2012 | Um, small update with bad news. I haven't been able to work much on the mapping. I had a bit of burn-out on Saturday and Sunday and just chilled both days. I feel pretty good today and hope to have a clear head and enough energy to work some more on the mapping this coming Sunday. @lyknapp - There are channels, decks and effect banks. The mapping is supposed to work like this. Jog Deck A - Channel A - Effect banks 1 and 3 Jog Deck B - Channel B - Effect banks 2 and 4 Alinement had added a swapping of effect banks between Decks in one or two of modes 5-7 and the swap wasn't working quite right going back to modes 1-4 and I thought I had taken the swapping out correctly, but I believe there is still a bug with that. That is what you might be seeing. Since I have started from scratch with all of the effect groupings in version 4.5, it should fix any effects on the wrong deck that you might be experiencing with 4.4. scamo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 23.03.2012 | I know what you mean, I've noticed that too. |
| Tamra Millus 23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by viszla
Of course I know that! Would like to have it so that everything I do on the Jog A, happening on channel A and everything I do on Jog B will be on Channel B. And not on both channels.. Some effects are such that they come on the channel you have activated. My English sucks! Difficult on to explain how I mean .. So we leave it. |
| Randell Juna 22.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by lysknapp
things works that way: jog A for deck A jog B for deck B |
| Tamra Millus 22.03.2012 | Hello scamo! I just have to say I LOVE your mapping. But just have to ask, I do not want the effects to go on both channels. If I use the effects on jog A, I just want the effects to be on channel A and not on both channels. xoxo |
| Hulda Ramprasad 22.03.2012 | Hi there, how is 4.5 progressing? Cheers, c |
| Rey Holubar 15.03.2012 | I live in Germany, but I am an American. scamo |
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