Kontrol X1 instant gratification 2 deck
Kontrol X1 instant gratification 2 deck Posted on: 22.03.2011 by Corey Tronchin Hi peeps,Attached you'll find the templates to use in the controller editor to make the bottom 4x4 rows on a Kontrol to act as a midifighter. This way, you can use the Instant Gratification mapping for Deck A and B on your X1. You'll find 2 templates, since for some reason I had to lower all midi notes by 1 to make sure they come through correctly. If anybody knows the reason, could you please tell me, I have no idea why this happens. Anyway, attached you'll find the 1-2, which according to the editor has the right notes assignments. I have to use the 1-3 version, with all the midinotes lowered 1 value, to make sure the right notes are given to Traktor. the basic knob page controls deck A, the shift knob page controls deck B. Now I just need to figure out the magic of the instant gratification , it's right in front of me I hope it saves some people some time to remap all the notes! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 1: import the template
Step 2: import the Instant Gratification mapping
Step 3: Set the effects right If for some reason the results (selected effects) are not the same as the Instant Gratification mapping, check your order of effects. Set them exactly as screencapped in this post: http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...cts#post250009 That's it! Happy mashing buttons! | |
| Jaymie Rothbard 31.03.2011 | can anyone help me out... ive followed all thr instructions and what not, but it just doesnt work right the drum fill thing works, and when you go across 1-2-3-4 you get the super combo, but the other buttons dont seem to be mapped to the right effects help! |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 30.03.2011 | @bigbeatz: no problem, would love to play around with additional mappings on it! |
| Karolis Petrauskas 30.03.2011 | @GeekGod - Thanks for posting the maschine mapping. I'll test it toevening and maybe add a thing or two. =) |
| Kala Pellar 30.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Michielygil
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| Corey Tronchin 30.03.2011 | When you're not using the midi modus of you're Kontrol X1, it's a great and easy addition to your controller without affecting your mapping whatsoever. I'm not using all of the combo's and what not, but the occasional beathmasher and especially the echo freeze button are pretty handy from time to time. |
| Kala Pellar 30.03.2011 | Am I the only person that has watched the youtube vid and thought 'that sounds sh*t'? |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by rdej47
This mapping is so much fun it's not even funny. Oh and one other thing I added the top right fx hold will also lower the decks volume by 30% or so meant for when you are dropping a new track. |
| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | I owe you big time man this mapping is sick. I actually have my X1 and Maschine along side each other and i've been using the Maschine to trigger the IG FX while tweaking them with the X1 knobs. |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 29.03.2011 | Hey let me know how it goes. Import the midi fighter mapping and then set your input and output device for all 4 to Maschine (even if your using 2). Or if you are using 2 set the input and output port to None for decks C and D. I feel kinda dirty for using this mapping on Maschine. Bought the video to show my appreciation of the hard work done on it. Might be getting a MF just for the heck of it |
| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | No worries i'm on S4 too, Thanks a lot man this is gonna be dope. |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 29.03.2011 | Here is the template I am using. http://www.geekgod.com/0/Controller Editor - Maschine Traktor Fighter - Deck A and B.ncc TinyURL Version: http://tinyurl.com/6j5h3fr This was based on the X1. Please note that I am using a S4 and there might be a difference in the midi notes (off by 1). This was mentioned somewhere earlier in this thread. |
| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | Would you mind sending me your maschine template? |
| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | it just ain't as fun banging on the tiny x1 buttons. |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by rdej47
Let me know if you need any info on mappings, I can get you screen shots, etc. |
| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | NVM figured it out, in theory would this be really easy to map to Maschine? Just match the channels and messages it's sending out? |
| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | I've got the template organized but so far all the buttons only work for deck A, solution? |
| Patty Mcgilbra 29.03.2011 | just hit "mappings" on top of the community and look at the vid of it. it's a nice effects mapping from Ean with some pretty special super-combos which add new effects on top if you press cerntain buttons at once or in order. |
| Kala Pellar 29.03.2011 | I wish I knew what you guys were talking about. What's the instant gratification mod etc? Will check youtube later, I suppose. |
| Homer Selgado 29.03.2011 | Sure thing! Ill post the Controller Manager settings that you will need to import so that your basic and shift layer for the effects section work properly, and the .tsi file that I use for the MIDI layer. As a side note on the mapping I am about to upload: The effects section is exactly as I described, and ONLY the "chained" controls are mapps, because the FX Units you have control over (FX 1 and FX 2) are set as "chained" in the IG MidiFighter mapping. The 4 "FX Bank Activate" buttons on the Kontrol are mapped like this: On the basic layer they are FX bank active buttons for Deck A, banks 1,2,3,4 from left to right. On the Shift layer they are FX bank activate buttons for Deck B, banks 1,2,3,4 from left to right. This helps when you go crazy on spamming buttons and certain effects decide not to turn off, you can easily see (because they have LED feedback) and instantly disable them with a quick button press on the X1. The "loop" encoders do EXACTLY what they do in the stock mapping. The "browser" encoder do mostly what they do in the stack mapping: In basic layer, they move up and down through the tracks in the current directory you are working, and pressing it loads the track into the respective deck. In the shift layer they move up and down through the folder tree, the press expands/collapses the folders. ^win And the top effects section acts as I already described. So with ought further adue: Internal Kombo Breaker is the controller manager template you need to import, it is based on the the "midifighter 1-3" template from the original download in this thread, so if you are using the "1-2" controller manager template then you might need to alter the template. MIDI Effects is the .tsi that contains the mappings for the rest of the MIDI section on the X1. ENJOY! |
| Neville Blackinton 29.03.2011 | Ahhh I see. Please post it when you are done! |
| Homer Selgado 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
So I just have both MIDI layer (basic and shift) sending the EXACT same MIDI notes, so I only have to map out one layer of effect controls for the top 8 buttons and knobs, and they work exactly the same for both "midifighter" decks. |
| Neville Blackinton 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by exokinetic
Awesome stuff this!
I am not going to be using the buttons for changing the effects that are loaded into the banks anyway, and the knobs don't do anything in the shift layer anyway.
I find this to be rather cool, as it allows you to modulate the combo's with the faders on the top of the controller, unlocking EVEN MORE effects awesomeness.
I'm seriously loving this. |
| Homer Selgado 29.03.2011 | The tops 4 buttons work as a "hold" function, I suggest you watch the Ean Golden vid on the IG mapping. Basically, while you are holding down ANY effect combo, press the top button that corresponds to the deck you are currently in, and it will hold the effects as you currently have them, i.e. you can let go of the controller. The "hold" buttons LED will illuminate to signal it is holding. Press the button again to release the hold. Awesome stuff this! I mapped the top of the X1's MIDI layer back to almost exactly as it is mapped on the Native Instruments layer. I went back into the controller editor, and changed ALL the effects controller o have exactly the same notes for basic, and shift, so when I hit shift to toggle the deck focus, all of the effect modulation controls are exactly the same as deck A. I am not going to be using the buttons for changing the effects that are loaded into the banks anyway, and the knobs don't do anything in the shift layer anyway. I find this to be rather cool, as it allows you to modulate the combo's with the faders on the top of the controller, unlocking EVEN MORE effects awesomeness. I'm seriously loving this. **EDIT** I'm pretty sure I had to add some output commands to get LED feedback to the top 2 hold buttons.... but I forget now, lol. |
| Neville Blackinton 29.03.2011 | Thanks for this! I managed to pick up a used X1 over the weekend and just got this working. It's lots of fun playing with all of the effects. So I have a few questions. Since I deleted the C & D banks what do the top 4 buttons do? Should they be doing something? And I'm going to try and build off this too since none of the other knobs and buttons are doing anything! w00 |
| Random X 29.03.2011 | Awesome work, michelygil! |
| Nedra Fresneda 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by exokinetic
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| Homer Selgado 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
But if any of the commands for current controls change, its going to get messy. >.< |
| Nedra Fresneda 29.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by rdej47
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| Johnsie Kingrea 29.03.2011 | Wow that's sick that you did that man. I almost bought a midi fighter for the instant grat mapping. Wll this be compatible with the s4 version of tractor pro? Don't worry I know how to spell tractor it's just the stupid auto correct on iPad and I'm to lazy to change it haha. |
| Homer Selgado 28.03.2011 | Just wanted to say again: You sir, are amazing. I realize it isn't a very complex idea, but its genius is in its simplicity. ...now to play with every midi-fighter mapping I can get my hands on! |
| Oswaldo Appeldorn 28.03.2011 | txxx |
| Corey Tronchin 28.03.2011 | Updated the startpost with a instructions |
| Wilbur Siress 27.03.2011 | I just wanted to say thanks I got this working. It was the order of the FX |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 27.03.2011 | Thanks I was able to get this working on my X1. Armed with that knowledge I then got it working on my Maschine! Many many kudos! |
| Corey Tronchin 27.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by onetidd
I hope that helps. Seems that it requires a bit more 'Manual' then I thought. I'll update the starter post with a step by step walkthrough tomorrow. |
| Oswaldo Appeldorn 27.03.2011 | No answer for me?? |
| Corey Tronchin 27.03.2011 | @Ashigari: that could work i suppose, but remember to remove all the buttons in the IG mapping that turns them on too. And it might collide with the whole brains behind the IG mapping. Since I'm only using 2 decks, I've taken the liberty of use the two topright buttons and use them to turn off all the possibly active effect units turned on to deck A and/or B. for some reason the IG mapping leaves them on in certain combinations which is cool, but not very wanted when you want to use the effects units for other purposes too. @exokinetic, thank you for the kind words, but to be fair, there's hardly any brains behind it. It merely enables someone to use the X1 for the splendid IG mapping, which really is the brains behind this. I just noticed there were some templates for the launchpad and such, but nobody took the short time to post it for the X1. |
| Patty Mcgilbra 27.03.2011 | amazing, thanks a lot! it didnt work at first but changing the order of effects did the trick edit: for the 4 deck mode, couldn't you just map the top row to assign all 4 effects banks to one deck and remove the assign efx to deck from the buttons? so you press the first button in the top row and all 4 efx banks are active on A, then play with the buttons. press 2nd button for deck B etc |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 | Okay I just realized that the link you posted earlier was to photojojo's pic of the proper order. Lol... And, I FUCKING LOVE YOU OMG! Just when I though my ridiculously custom mapped X1 was maxed out, you go and spring something like THIS on me... And COMPLETELY change the way I use effects. You sir, get a gold star. |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 | I realize it would be kind of a pain.... But can someone please list the "proper" order that the effects need to be in my list in traktor so that the correct effects are selected by the IG mapping? |
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