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[windows] My S4 Diary: Prepping for and setting up my S4
Posted on: 15.01.2011 by Len Lukawski
I thought I would share my experiences as a new
Len Lukawski
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by VanGogo
Saw something about using an SD card as extra ram. What is your take on that?
It's called Readyboost and I believe it is available on Vista and Win7. The idea is that (as you said) Windows utilizes the memory on the SD card as if it were RAM. I had a look to see what kinds of performance you would get from it and found a reference that states that a process that takes 11.7 seconds to complete on a system with 512mb of RAM takes 2 seconds with an additional 512MB of ReadyBoost memory. if the additional 512MB RAM was actually installed RAM the same operation would take 0.8 seconds. So, much faster than paging a disk but still a good bit slower than proper RAM.

Readyboost might be worth considering for people with netbooks as it may increase their odds of being able to run something like Traktor. For those with 2 or 4GB RAM on their systems it's unlikely to make much difference. My laptop has 8GB and I swear I never use a fraction of it!

There's not a lot to configure so it's definitely worth spending an hour to test it out. Note that older or dodgy SD cards might cause more problems than they solve. There is also a finite number of writes that can be made to an SD card though that's a pretty high number so shouldn't be an issue.
Len Lukawski
21.06.2011
@Echo off
:menu
ECHO.
ECHO. Welcome to the DJTT Windows Optimizer for Pro Audio v1.018
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO. Press 1 if you want to optimize your laptop for a gig
ECHO. Press 2 if you want to restore everything for normal use
echo. Press 3 if you want to install RAM Saver Pro
ECHO. Press 4 to quit
ECHO.
ECHO.
Set /p input=What do you want to do?

IF %Input% == 1 GOTO Optimize
IF %Input% == 2 GOTO Restore
IF %Input% == 3 GOTO Install
IF %Input% == 4 Goto Quit

:Install
ECHO.
ECHO. If needed, you have to click on download.
start http://www65.zippyshare.com/d/300326...amsaverpro.exe
ping 123.45.67.89 -n 1 -w 30000 > nul
ECHO.
Echo. The Ram Saver pro installer will be launched now! Install the program as usual!
start C:\Users\%Username%\Downloads\ramsaverpro.exe
ping 123.45.67.89 -n 1 -w 25000 > nul
ECHO.
ECHO. Ram Saver Pro has been installed
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO. Press 1 if you want to optimize your laptop for a gig
ECHO. Press 2 if you want to restore everything for normal use
ECHO. Press 3 to quit
ECHO.
ECHO.
Set /p input=What do you want to do?

IF %Input% == 1 GOTO Optimize
IF %Input% == 2 GOTO Restore
IF %Input% == 3 Goto Quit

:Optimize
CLS
ECHO.
ECHO. Optimizing your computer now!
ECHO.
rem Disabling your wifi
set /p hardwareID= What is the hardware ID of your Wifi card? Also make you have devcon installed! For instructions, visit http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d.php?p=304909
devcon disable *%hardwareID%*

rem Defragmentating your RAM
if exist "C:\Program Files\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe" start "DJ Script" "C:\Program Files\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe"
if exist "C:\Program Files (x86)\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe" start "DJ Script" "C:\Program Files (x86)\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe"


rem Stopping Windows Firewall, Windows Defender and Avast!...
net stop mpssvc
net stop windefend
net stop "avast! Antivirus"

rem Stopping DHCP Client and Wireless LAN...
net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc
net stop dhcp
net stop wlansvc

rem Stopping Other Network Related Services...
net stop "dns cache"
net stop netprofm
net stop nlasvc
net stop netman
net stop iphlpsvc
net stop lanmanworkstation
net stop "Bonjour Service"
net stop dhcp
net stop nsi
net stop lanmanserver
net stop lmhosts
net stop "shared access"
net stop nettcpportsharing
net stop remoteaccess
net stop alg
net stop bits
net stop peerdistsvc
net stop certpropsvc
net stop homegrouplistener
net stop homegroupprovider
net stop winrm
net stop Broswer
net stop TrkWks


rem Stopping other Windows Services...
net stop wscsvc
net stop DPS
net stop CscService
net stop WPDBusEnum
net stop ProtectedStorage
net stop RemoteRegistry
net stop seclogon
net stop wscsvc

rem Stopping Blue Tooth Services
net stop bthserv

rem Stopping Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance Services
net stop sessionenv
net stop termservice

rem Stopping Windows Update Services
net stop wuauserv

rem Stopping iPod Services
net stop "ipod service"
net stop "Apple Mobile Device"

rem Stopping Stuff that makes your PC look nice...
net stop themes
net stop sensrsvc
net stop AeLookupSvc
net stop UxSms

rem Stopping Scanner, Camera and other imaging Services...
net stop stisvc

rem Stopping Windows Media Playing Sharing...
net stop WMPnetworksvc

rem Stopping Tablet Device Support...
net stop tabletinputservice

rem Stopping Other Windows Services...
net stop bdesvc
net stop wbengine
net stop uiodetect
net stop defragsvc
net stop axinstsv
net stop "w32time"
net stop wercplsupport
net stop PnkBstrA
net stop TeamViewer6
net stop HPSLPSVC
net stop Wsearch
net stop osppsvc


rem Stopping Printer Services
net stop spooler

rem stopping useless programs
Taskkill /f /im TeamViewer.exe
Taskkill /im firefox.exe
Taskkill /f /im uTorrent.exe
Taskkill /f /im Dropbox.exe
Taskkill /f /im steam.exe
Taskkill /f /im "AAM Updates Notifier.exe"
Taskkill /f /im AvastUI.exe
Taskkill /f /im hpqtra08.exe
Taskkill /f /im hpwuschd2.exe
Taskkill /f /im ctfmon.exe

rem Stop defragmentating RAM
Taskkill /im ramsaverpro.exe

ECHO.
ECHO. Your PC has been optimized
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO. Press 1 if you want to restore everything for normal use
ECHO. Press 2 to quit
ECHO.
ECHO.
Set /p input=What do you want to do?

IF %Input% == 1 GOTO Restore
IF %Input% == 2 GOTO Quit

:Restore
CLS
ECHO.
ECHO. Restoring everything for normal use!
ECHO.
rem Enabling your wifi
set /p hardwareID= What is the hardware ID of your Wifi card? Also make you have devcon installed! For instructions, visit http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d.php?p=304909
devcon enable *%hardwareID%*

rem Defragmentating your RAM
if exist "C:\Program Files\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe" start "DJ Script" "C:\Program Files\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe"
if exist "C:\Program Files (x86)\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe" start "DJ Script" "C:\Program Files (x86)\WinTools Software\RAM Saver Professional\ramsaverpro.exe"

rem Starting Windows Firewall, Windows Defender and Avast!...
net start mpssvc
net start windefend
net start "avast! Antivirus"

rem Starting DHCP Client and Wireless LAN...
net start WinHttpAutoProxySvc
net start dhcp
net start wlansvc

rem Starting Other Network Related Services...
net start "dns cache"
net start netprofm
net start nlasvc
net start netman
net start iphlpsvc
net start lanmanworkstation
net start "Bonjour Service"
net start dhcp
net start nsi
net start lanmanserver
net start lmhosts
net start "shared access"
net start nettcpportsharing
net start remoteaccess
net start alg
net start bits
net start peerdistsvc
net start certpropsvc
net start homegrouplistener
net start homegroupprovider
net start winrm
net start Broswer
net start TrkWks


rem Starting other Windows Services...
net start wscsvc
net start DPS
net start CscService
net start WPDBusEnum
net start ProtectedStorage
net start RemoteRegistry
net start seclogon
net start wscsvc
net start osppsvc

rem Starting Blue Tooth Services
net start bthserv

rem Starting Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance Services
net start sessionenv
net start termservice

rem Starting Windows Update Service
net start wuauserv

rem Starting iPod Services
net start "ipod service"
net start "Apple Mobile Device"

rem Starting Stuff that makes your PC look nice...
net start themes
net start sensrsvc
net start AeLookupSvc
net start UxSms

rem Starting Scanner, Camera and other imaging Services...
net start stisvc

rem Starting Windows Media Playing Sharing...
net start WMPnetworksvc

rem Starting Tablet Device Support...
net start tabletinputservice

rem Starting Other Windows Services...
net start bdesvc
net start wbengine
net start uiodetect
net start defragsvc
net start axinstsv
net start "w32time"
net start wercplsupport
net start PnkBstrA
net start TeamViewer6
net start HPSLPSVC
net start Wsearch

rem Starting Printer Services
net start spooler

rem Stop RAM Defragmentation
Taskkill /im ramsaverpro.exe

ECHO.
ECHO. Your PC has been restored
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO. Press 1 if you want to optimize your laptop for a gig
ECHO. Press 2 to quit
ECHO.
ECHO.
Set /p input=What do you want to do?

IF %Input% == 1 GOTO Optimize
IF %Input% == 2 GOTO Quit

:Quit
ECHO Thanks for using this! Credits to SmiTTTen - DJ Trancicted - Stashe
pause
Charline Dye
21.06.2011
Thank you Mr Smitten. I'm glad some one is nice enough to help the Mac-less among us!

And a question. Saw something about using an SD card as xtra ram. What is your take on that?
Len Lukawski
20.06.2011
7500 views!!! I'm like famous or something....

Gonna call my agent.
Precious Pequignot
04.06.2011
If however, i was to disable all the external programs/services, configure the resources and what not, etc etc and thereby tuning the windows 7 OS solely for the djing user account, your saying it wouldnt make a difference in terms of performance for TP2? Just asking.

Well just that i can forsee myself messing around a lil bit on TP2 while using some of the general user accounts data. Like, while studying or just messing ard. Having to reboot via another partition would be problematic. As u can c, im not that knowledgable bout the new partitioning stuff. Still stuck in the old, "reformat to partition" thing. It looks real simple now though. Am on IE finding info now though.
Len Lukawski
05.06.2011
Good Question!

Creating to separate users will separate out the access right and user experience but I am pretty sure that it's not going to give you any extra performance gains for Traktor as the drivers and services will still load up.

I am not sure why you wouldn't want to partition your disk. If you can provide some more information I may be able to help a little more.

SmiTTTen
Precious Pequignot
05.06.2011
Hi smittten and petegt, both of ur posts are very informative. Rather then post a new thread i would like to ask something here regarding a new laptop running on windows 7 os and the s4.

Some background info 1st. Im about to get a new laptop, most probably a windows 7 laptop as thats wat im comfortable with, and plan to use it for general purposes + sch work + bedroom djing. Specs wise i doubt it would be an issue as i would be getting something on the higher end.

If i was to create 2 users and NOT partition my hdd, thereby having 1 for general usage / sch work and 1 solely for Traktor 2 / DJing, and optimise the djing account by fine tuning it for traktor and audio processes, such as through msconfig and changing usb power management and what not. Would this be a viable option to reduce the amount of audio drop outs/cackles etc?

I understand that ultimately, a partitioned hdd would fare better. But just wondering, cause i dun rly wanna partition it. Thanks!
Len Lukawski
14.05.2011
One of the benefits of partitioning is that it enables the user to deploy only the components they need for a given environment. If you are just going to be using it for audio apps etc then your probably don't need a separate partition. If the web access portion grows to the point where you believe you need stuff like anti-virus/spam s/w then you might consider splitting them out.

I personally like additional partitions as it provides a safety net if one of them becomes corrupted and you want to be able to switch to another quickly without going through the install/restore/recovery process.

There's trade offs all the way around - just find what feels the most comfortable, manageable and affordable.

SmiTTTen
Virginia Nartatez
15.05.2011
I was wondering about the necessity of partitioning my HDD if I intend to only use this laptop for audio oriented progs (i . g . Traktor, Ableton, etc) and minor web access for updates and music downloads?

Anyway, this post was incredible and actually inspired me to reconfigure my notebook. Thanks to smittten and petegt for the walk - thru / vid tutorials ✌
Len Lukawski
10.05.2011
Originally Posted by petegt
The thread is filled with people thanking author, more useful tips but also allot of un constructive comments such as 'get a mac' or people that have failed to optimise basic hardware or windows settings usually by not following instructions and guides.

I'm guessing your the proud owner of a mac?
Actually, no one has thanked me in days!
Hailey Westen
10.05.2011
Originally Posted by Scaper7
Problems seem to arise when specifically using S4's built in soundcard/drivers ... Many PC users having audio issues with S4 report 'no more problems' by simply using 'other' soundcards. You can find plenty of references to this on NI community posts ....
what he said...

its clear NI were lazy on testing the s4 on windows before release.
Emanuel Kepics
10.05.2011
Originally Posted by petegt
How is it a totally different scenario? both using windows machines running traktor with usb sound cards which are both 24bit 96khz sampling.
Problems seem to arise when specifically using S4's built in soundcard/drivers ... Many PC users having audio issues with S4 report 'no more problems' by simply using 'other' soundcards. You can find plenty of references to this on NI community posts ....
Lin Danek
10.05.2011
Originally Posted by petegt
No not going to question that. You must have just had bad luck with the pc you had. I can totally understand why loads of people buy and recommend macs as they do work out of the box in most cases and tbh do admire apple products being so refined.

I just feel theres a bit of a trend going on where people are just writing of pc's after the slightest problem
I concur. Yes, I had to 'tweak' (thanks guys), but my Asus performs flawlessly.
Darrin Galeota
10.05.2011
No not going to question that. You must have just had bad luck with the pc you had. I can totally understand why loads of people buy and recommend macs as they do work out of the box in most cases and tbh do admire apple products being so refined.

I just feel theres a bit of a trend going on where people are just writing of pc's after the slightest problem
Bridget Liner
10.05.2011
After a month of trying every possible option, yes I bought a mac. Next you'll probably question my technical skills and i'll say that i've been around computers long enough.
Darrin Galeota
10.05.2011
The thread is filled with people thanking author, more useful tips but also allot of un constructive comments such as 'get a mac' or people that have failed to optimise basic hardware or windows settings usually by not following instructions and guides.

I'm guessing your the proud owner of a mac?
Bridget Liner
10.05.2011
If it was that simple this thread wouldn't be so long. Move on.
Darrin Galeota
10.05.2011
Originally Posted by bucky
If there were "simple fix's" people wouldn't have issues.. Also, are you even using an S4? Based on what you listed it doesn't sound like it in which case it's a totally different scenario.
No Im not using an S4. But simple things such as installing latest s4 drivers and using asio4all which people seem skeptical about can solve most of the stability issues and drop outs. Plus all of these fix's and tweaks are something that you only have to set up once then forget about it.

How is it a totally different scenario? both using windows machines running traktor with usb sound cards which are both 24bit 96khz sampling.

With asio4all you could also turn the input channels off on the s4 if not in use to reduce the load on the system.


As for the solutions not being simple check out these videos on optimising windows 7 for audio. Step by step instructions being demonstrated on screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7awctTsK34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bla5vvQBG8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b_AdZYSmLg
Bridget Liner
09.05.2011
Originally Posted by petegt
I cant believe people would rather buy an overpriced mac than do some simple fix's to windows.
If there were "simple fix's" people wouldn't have issues.. Also, are you even using an S4? Based on what you listed it doesn't sound like it in which case it's a totally different scenario.
Darrin Galeota
09.05.2011
I cant believe people would rather buy an overpriced mac than do some simple fix's to windows.

I have a beat up advent laptop from 2006 with an Intel Core 2 Duo T5300 (1.73GHz), 3gb ddr2 ram and a 120gb 5400rpm hdd. Windows 7 64bit installed allthough same results with 32bit.

I have done many of the Win 7 tweaks mentioned in this thread.

I use TP2, asio4all, Numark mixtrack and a Creative Soundblaster 24bit Live 5.1 ch soundcard which cost me
Mindi Spitzig
28.04.2011
Incredible post! answers alot of questions for fresh s4 user.

Thanks a million
Charline Dye
12.04.2011
Hehehehe, Smitten's back with a vengance, lol.

Welcome back
Len Lukawski
21.03.2011
Originally Posted by Scaper7
So ... when do we stop pretending S4 is PC compatible?

Seems like no one (including NI) can come up with a real fix for PC audio issues with S4 ... except 'get a Mac' ....
I know this a community for DJs but you are a one track record playing a tune that people got bored of months ago. My 2 year old has a wider variety of conversation topics...
Brinda Sirman
21.03.2011
If you follow all the steps in this community your audio issues will stop. NI provides some help in their support and i advise you follow those steps also. I originally was like most of you guys where i complained and complained just wanting a quick fix but nothing came. Finally i followed every step people had been talking about and BAM my S4 ran perfectly. It seems disabling your battery and wireless actually in your device list is the main fix but doing cleanups and little other steps does not hurt. Please make sure your comp is up to standards and do every single step presented and your S4 should finally run the way you want it to!
Emanuel Kepics
21.03.2011
So ... when do we stop pretending S4 is PC compatible?

Seems like no one (including NI) can come up with a real fix for PC audio issues with S4 ... except 'get a Mac' ....
Bridget Liner
22.03.2011
Problems fixed. I'm out of this thread! lol
Bridget Liner
20.03.2011
Originally Posted by IrishBlaggard
lmfao
what one you getting ?
i just got the 13" base model (2011) and its just great

a few tweeks are needed in prefernces to be able to right click and copy & paste to just make it feel a little like the pc way of doing things until i figue it all out at least oh and i downloaded google crome

EDIT: only messing around with the multitouch of the track pad now and it seems really cool
I bought a refurbed 2010 i7 model with a 15" screen.. talked to some mac expert friends and they said it'll kick ass and saved some money. I don't have issues with refurbished stuff since they have the same warranty. Supposed to be delivered tomorrow, I'm expecting a day off from work will follow.
Tatum Ansaldo
20.03.2011
Originally Posted by IrishBlaggard
only messing around with the multitouch of the track pad now and it seems really cool
changed the way i work completely. brilliant piece of tech.
Hailey Westen
20.03.2011
Originally Posted by bucky
I gave up, my Mac Book Pro will be here on Monday. lol
lmfao
what one you getting ?
i just got the 13" base model (2011) and its just great

a few tweeks are needed in prefernces to be able to right click and copy & paste to just make it feel a little like the pc way of doing things until i figue it all out at least oh and i downloaded google crome

EDIT: only messing around with the multitouch of the track pad now and it seems really cool
Tatum Ansaldo
20.03.2011
love it
Bridget Liner
20.03.2011
I gave up, my Mac Book Pro will be here on Monday. lol
Hailey Westen
20.03.2011
Originally Posted by bucky
I give up. Backed up my shit.. formatted.. fresh install of Vista.. removed every piece of software not needed.. updated Windows.. updated all drivers.. disabled non essential services, startup items and hardware in device manager.. installed Traktor.. installed the beta driver.. same crap. Anyone want to buy an HP laptop?
no thanks...

I just got me a brand new MacBook Pro and loving it

and this thing is as everyone says it is... IT JUST WORKS.

took me a litle while to figue out how to do basic stuff like copy and paste or even right click, and i installed google crome as i didnt like safari.


have you tried a different sound card ?
Bridget Liner
16.03.2011
I give up. Backed up my shit.. formatted.. fresh install of Vista.. removed every piece of software not needed.. updated Windows.. updated all drivers.. disabled non essential services, startup items and hardware in device manager.. installed Traktor.. installed the beta driver.. same crap. Anyone want to buy an HP laptop?
Tatum Ansaldo
15.03.2011
on a final OT note,

Torrie Blacker
15.03.2011
Thanks again to smitten et. al. for their help. You guys at least have helped to get people rolling on this. With the oven, if your skills are lacking maybe you should try eating out

For me, it is purely a matter of your investment - time and resources. I had been researching this for about a year since wanting to go from cd's to digital. Amongst the hype, I purchased a S4 in November on the first shipment to Australia. 3 months of trying to get this to work - even dropping the question with the experienced traktor rep and trying most of the tips/hints from this site.

I personally got to a stage of being uncomfortable with the changes I was making to my windows system. I persevered and then I decided to give up when the machine started overheating and power off kicks in. I believe it was time for my 4 yr old laptop.

I call that wanting to really use my $1k investment in Traktor.
Anastacia Gorte
14.03.2011
Awesome guide, thank you so much for the effort in putting this together. Helped out with my problems on the s4. I have a core i3, 4bg ram, intel hd graphics hp laptop that is only 1 year old, so I figured it should have no problems running the new s4 software. I ran tpro flawlessly for one year, and then getting and trying out the new s4 software I was really dissapointed. Thanks to this it actually works now. Hopefully traktor pro 2 will further resolve any issues.
Bridget Liner
14.03.2011
I'm probably in the minority... researching it led me to this great site at least!
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by bucky
Hopefully most people who've saved up for an S4 have done enough research to know this is a possibility...
I wouldn't count on it. Product websites do tend to put the system requirements in small letters at the bottom, not as a big warning before buying.
Bridget Liner
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
I do feel sorry for the people who save up for ages to buy an S4 only to discover that their ageing windows machine can't run the software properly.

The fact is, like an audio chain, your rig is only as strong as its weakest component and if after trying all the regular fixes it turns out that your laptop just isn't up to it, it must be shit.
Hopefully most people who've saved up for an S4 have done enough research to know this is a possibility.. I did but we all know most consumers of anything don't research enough before they buy.
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by smittten
This I TOTALLY AGREE with. My issue is people seem to be ditching perfectly good Windows machines. I have ready many posts where people run into even minor issues and, based on some of the less capable board members' suggestions, just go, "Oh, it must be Windows/shitty Win drivers -I'll just get a Mac"
As attractive as i always found macs, I only switched when my VAIO 13" became TOTALLY unuseable (it was running at dangerously high temps even when placed on a fan cooling stand, making it really uncomfortable to type, and the battery lasted 20 mins). That was when I was running virtual DJ on a laptop only setup (ie JUST mixing in my bedroom, back when my addiction was in its infancy) and the CPU could barely handle the stress.

Decided to go for it and got a 13" MBP with the educational discount and haven't looked back, it's just brilliant. I don't hate windows machines, but I prefer the look, performance and workflow of macs. Also, I'm not going to lie and say i didn't partially buy it cos it's got a shiny apple on the lid.

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