DJ-Tech controllers 2009
DJ-Tech controllers 2009 Posted on: 15.01.2009 by Random X Hey guys,just found these new controllers by DJ Tech. Probably something they are displaying on NAMM? I browsed to these by means of aboutdj.nl, and they have me believeing about the midst of xone:1d controllers and faderfox combined with a hybrid mixer? The controllers xone:1d a like controllers are called Kontrol One and the mixer is called DJM-202. Once again credits to aboutdj.nl | |
| Madlyn Trocino 11.10.2009 |
Originally Posted by kilbot
Yeah there not adhesive....I just assumed they were....I used some water based adhesive on mine. Didnt want to use anything stronger in case I wanted to remove em. Basic Elmers did the trick for me. |
| Karolis Petrauskas 11.10.2009 |
Originally Posted by Luis
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| alfredo moreira 11.10.2009 |
Originally Posted by thictool
i just received two kontrol one's, and i must say i like them very much so far! i love the dial for switching between decks(midi channels) and having four encoders at the top of each is great for effects. but i do have a question, i'm not seeing how the black overlays are adhesive....? that back doesn't seem to come off like a sticker, and i even tried scoring it with a blade, but i don't know... ? i imagined the back would peel off to reveal adhesive-ness. am i wrong? |
| Kami Ehorn 24.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by B33SON
LOL! im just starting out i dont wanna spend a bomb on gear, yet. so i was believeing of the "i-mix total pack". whats your comment on the basic i-mix? to me it looks realllllly fragile. well thats just me i haven't seen it f2f. |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 24.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by Kel Am
Anyhoooo, it varies a bit with each of there products from what I remember at NAMM. I liked the 202 unit that they had. It seemed to be well made. Which product are you believeing of? |
| Madlyn Trocino 11.10.2009 |
Originally Posted by kilbot
Yeah there not adhesive....I just assumed they were....I used some water based adhesive on mine. Didnt want to use anything stronger in case I wanted to remove em. Basic Elmers did the trick for me. |
| Karolis Petrauskas 11.10.2009 |
Originally Posted by Luis
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| alfredo moreira 11.10.2009 |
Originally Posted by thictool
i just received two kontrol one's, and i must say i like them very much so far! i love the dial for switching between decks(midi channels) and having four encoders at the top of each is great for effects. but i do have a question, i'm not seeing how the black overlays are adhesive....? that back doesn't seem to come off like a sticker, and i even tried scoring it with a blade, but i don't know... ? i imagined the back would peel off to reveal adhesive-ness. am i wrong? |
| Shelby Blancaflor 02.10.2009 | dj Chriss is bound to become a classic... |
| Hildegarde Rateliff 02.10.2009 | Thanks for all the info on the DJ-Tech products B33SON, was wondering if you have tryed the vinyl turntables from DJ-Tech? Like this package http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCu7kxpDIL8 or anything similiar? |
| Nicholas Karty 30.09.2009 | Thanks for the review B33SON, I'm off to town to buy one in one hour, just hope they got them left, the imix used to be 214 dollar and not its only 140, and thats about how much I can sell my x-session pro for. I would want to buy a vci 100 but here in Sweden they go for 700 dollar :[ Im also wondering if you are willing to share your tsi? Dont know how you configured it, but it would be nice to have a configuration some what like eans vci 100 tsi available here. And if you guys are interessted I can post pics of everything from the controler to the package. |
| ceyhun gunaz 25.09.2009 | yeah b33son thanks for that.. exactlly what i wanted to hear about it! |
| Kami Ehorn 25.09.2009 | thanks for the indepth review b33son! |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 24.09.2009 | just looked it up... http://www.djtechmart.com/cart-eu/C-...otal-Pack.html That's definitely a good price for getting started. I've never scene a package like that before... its a good marketing strategy i guess. So let me start with the positive. The controller will get the job done and it's quite light. One bad thing about the VCI is that it's a beast. Heavy and awkward. It's also got quite a few buttons in a symmetrical format. So you can figure out what works for one deck and duplicate that for your other decks in your midi mappings. Okay, the downside... this thing is light. I had to be careful when doing fast fader throws because the whole unit would move. If I used this unit at a gig, I'd probably get some sort of rubbery material for the bottom side so that it would stay in place better. Not a huge issue though. Second, with this great price you're not getting touch platters. Depending on what you want to do with the controller, that might be feature you'd want to pay more for... on that same site I saw their i-mix reloaded for $249... without all that other stuff though. One other comment, the knobs and sliders worked just fine, but they don't have the machined feel of the more expensive controllers. For getting ur feet wet they're fine though. Hope that helps. |
| Kami Ehorn 24.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by B33SON
LOL! im just starting out i dont wanna spend a bomb on gear, yet. so i was believeing of the "i-mix total pack". whats your comment on the basic i-mix? to me it looks realllllly fragile. well thats just me i haven't seen it f2f. |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 24.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by Kel Am
Anyhoooo, it varies a bit with each of there products from what I remember at NAMM. I liked the 202 unit that they had. It seemed to be well made. Which product are you believeing of? |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 25.09.2009 | Armageddon... points go to google ftw! |
| Kami Ehorn 25.09.2009 |
American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!
beeson, gotta ask. whats the build like? the quality aspect. will i be ending up with a knobless knob or slider-less slider in a month or two? |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 25.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by pepehouse
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| Brandon Krugger 25.09.2009 | The biggest con is actually that they are made in China |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 25.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by Kel Am
the dj tech products are sold mostly in Europe and Asia. They're just starting to push into the US market over the last few months. Not sure where to pick up their products right now, but I know they're available in online retailers... better prices when u buy stuff like this online anyhow. They're actually sending me some stuff right now to review. I'm going to create some videos which I can share with you and give you a better idea of how they work. Let me know if you have questions and I'll try and answer them or even demonstrate them in the video. |
| Kami Ehorn 25.09.2009 | hey guys, new to this community
. Hi! the products by djtech looks really promising. any idea where its retailing or if theres any online store that stocks djtech product? after a lil research, djtech is actually a China made product/company. pros/cons if any? btw beeson, heard your track on youtube...so sick man. so sick!! |
| Madlyn Trocino 20.09.2009 | Here a post with pics explaining the Kontrol One's with the DCM4000. BTW the Kontrol One and the DCM are the exact same height. http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...p?t=17&page=67 |
| Madlyn Trocino 20.09.2009 | Below |
| Ernie Stieglitz 17.09.2009 | I get it, thanks. Pretty clever idea. I also like the fact that the rotaries are endless, which puts it ahead of XOne1D for me, along with the price |
| Bertie Brett 17.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by Stumpy
- When you are in position 1 then all the controls send midi messages via midi output channel 1, if you change to position 2 then all the controls send midi messages via midi output channel 2... and the same for positions 3 & 4. - The above is valid for all the controls... knobs, slider, buttons, jog..etc. - The midi input channel (...important for feedback leds) also changes when you change the rotary switch position (...similar to above). What does mean different midi channel outputs/inputs for us (...the users)? Well, this mean that you are sending different midi messages when you change the rotary switcher position. This is good because you have 4 controllers in 1, some utilities of this feature are: 1) You can avoid midi conflicts when you use it in collaboration with other midi controllers. Generally all midi controllers send messages via midi output channel number 1, so that if you turn the rotary switcher of the Kontrol One to position 2 then you won't have duplicate midi messages (...for example frank can use the Faderfox and the Kontrol One at the same time without problems). 2) You can control 4 decks (...with independent feedback led) with one controller. 3) You can use four Kontrol One controllers at the same time without problems (...for example in Traktor). Is it more or less clear now? |
| Ernie Stieglitz 16.09.2009 | Glad to see you here Luis. You would be the right person to answer: Do the knobs send different midi messages when you change the layer switch, or is it a deck focus switch? I believe this matters when using Ableton. Thanks to thic for the previous answers. |
| Bertie Brett 16.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by frank tourette
Originally Posted by frank tourette
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| jürgen weiprecht 16.09.2009 | You definately make my day, Luis!Works like a charm with my Faderfox.I |
| Bertie Brett 15.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by frank tourette
Look here: http://kontrolprodj.com/community /index.php?topic=734.0 |
| Madlyn Trocino 15.09.2009 | I mapped my own TSI and TKS using the "pre-mapped" file from KontrolDJ. Its pretty straight forward. |
| jürgen weiprecht 15.09.2009 | I |
| Madlyn Trocino 15.09.2009 | Question - 1. Can you chain these units or do they both need their own usb port? Answer - They are not chainable because each unit has only one USB port. Question - 2. Have you experinced any clashing having two of these controllers? Answer - Ive experienced no clashing. The reason mainly is because these units have 4 seperate midi switchable layers via the very top left knob. So I set Deck A to channel layer 1 (on one controller) and Deck B to channel layer 2 (on the other controller). In case this is confusing....lemme explain more. The entire layout - meaning all buttons rotarys faders etc of each unit can be programed in 4 seperate layers that are real time switchable from the upper left hand side Dial. So even though there are 22 Buttons - 4 endless push button encoders - 1 Jog & 1 Pitch Fader on a single deck...you can acually map 88 buttons - 4 Jog wheels - 16 endless push button rotary encoders & 4 Pitch Faders on a single Deck. You could easily control 4 decks with only 2 units because each unit has 4 swithable layers to map. And so on.... |
| Ernie Stieglitz 15.09.2009 | Hey, it actually looks pretty good in black! Please keep us posted about your experiences thictool. Two questions: 1. Can you chain these units or do they both need their own usb port? 2. Have you experinced any clashing having two of these controllers? |
| Madlyn Trocino 15.09.2009 | Just got two Kontrol One units today. These units are rock solid with super sturdy & acurate large touch sensitive jog wheels, hard plastic low profile/action buttons with a nice click to them (that are twice the size of those of the VCI-100), 4 endless push button rotary encoders (with LED rings) that have plenty of space between them (even for the fattest fingers like mine) perfect LED feedback on all buttons and encoders rings while using Traktor....even after 6 hours. No freezing what so ever....not even at startup or anything....Also the Knotrol One comes with a adhesive Black overlay that is meant for Traktor Pro and looks really sharp (see pics below) Wish I could say the same for the VCI.....but after years of using the VCI, I couldnt take another day of it fighting with Traktor and Freezing endlessly. Of course if you disable the VCI LEDs it doesnt freeze....but what fun is that. Also I got tired of the VCI layer situation and non symetrical layout with its uncoordenated....."this side does this, and that side does that" theory. Even after three years of using the VCI, I was constantly frustrated having to engage layers just to use effects, then trying to keep track as I want to effect two decks at once....Its seriously daunting...even with "Shift" I also bought the Stanton SCS 1m mixer to use with the Kontrol One units, so I will have more control then I could possibly know what to do with. Also some folks seem to be doubting the Kontrol One units because its being marketed by DJ-Tech. Well this unit was accually concieved and produced by Kontrol DJ (makers of the KDJ500) who make rock solid equiptment. http://kontrolprodj.com/content/view/19/1/ From what I can tell DJ-Tech is marketing the Kontrol One as a package deal so they can add their crappy mixer to it and call it the Hybrid 202. http://www.djtechpro.com/product_det...product_id=286 The DJ-Tech mixer is not midi at all and is simply a analoge mixer with some very cheesy sounding effects so I would beware of the package deal unless it sound appealing to you. |
| Latoria Kavulich 14.09.2009 | Nice one limey we still use the i-mix club edition also. Man this thing has been thrashed and midi tweaked to sheiss. Apart from the normal knob wear its been rock solid as. Actually i prefer the wheels on it to our Hercules. Pretty small and not enough knobs for me these days, now that we have been mucking round with the DJM-700/2 Controller setup, but when i was getting started it was perfect. Personally i believe the dj mouse is basically a good idea, but they need to make it look less fisher price'ish, but as limey says, don't judge them on that. the Re-Load is a great controller for example. |
| robert chanda 14.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by pepehouse
I'm reserving judgement until I've met the devices F2F. |
| Brandon Krugger 14.09.2009 | Careful guys, is not this company the "DJ mouse" one? |
| Nicholas Karty 13.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by autonic
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| Ernie Stieglitz 29.08.2009 | How is that hybrid mixer supposed to work if you use 4 decks in traktor? |
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