NI kontrol M1 (member mockup)
NI kontrol M1 (member mockup) Posted on: 10.01.2011 by Demetra Pinizzotto Idea I had:2 channel mixer controller module. same size as the X1, same knobs and colours. I did a little photoshop and came up with this. comments, ideas and bumps are welcome. I will update the picture when a good idea comes in and I find some time. in the picture there are some labels on the buttons, in the real version I'd rather not have that. just to show you guys what is what. | |
| Lewis Stumpf 15.01.2011 | @Mostapha. Well, guess that saves us building it then |
| Cammy Clegg 15.01.2011 | |
| Dorie Scelzo 15.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 14.01.2011 | Damn that is nice... I hope the NI ideas team lurk this community . |
| Random X 14.01.2011 | Nice! |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 14.01.2011 | looking good, the 3d gives a better feeling of spacing between the knobs. I had the feeling that my knobs were very close in some cases. |
| Lewis Stumpf 14.01.2011 | Messing around with the top layout and a transparent board. I grouped things a little differently and added some CF assign buttons, nothing labeled. I'll take a look at Tekki's take a little later, try to blend the two together somehow. EDIT: For now it looks like the thing should definitely be doable in a 1inch thick casing, with wire routing and whatnot. What are your guys take on labeling, keep a generic controller? I tried to group up things a bit, make it more easily mappable, but I don't know if I overdid it. |
| Random X 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
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| Demetra Pinizzotto 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
I still hope that if NI was to make something like this, it would be the same size as the X1. I know thats hard to do for us. Maybe if someone broke his X1 you could use the parts and machine a new top plate. would be amazing, but pretty much impossible I figure |
| Shonda Soulier 15.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by theory28
i believe pitch bending is easier with a jog wheel too. personal preference |
| Lewis Stumpf 15.01.2011 | Hey Joost / Tekki I'm fiddling around with the 3d model of the designs you guys posted. Right now I'm on the mixers. It sounds pretty unanimous from the DJTT crowd that as generic controller faces as possible are good. Lack of text and such. To that effect, would any of you mind if I dropped the NI style controller casing (the shiny plate, raised top and bottom), and put your layouts into the same style case I used for my own concept? That would make my job a lot easier when it comes to modeling, but I'd still stick to your layouts and ideas. That would also help along the process of actually making it down the line (should any of you desire my plans for production), as there would be no infringement with NI in terms of visual look. Thanks |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 14.01.2011 | correct this thread isn't only about the mixer I originally intended anymore. lots of good ideas throughout this thread tho. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Garygary1
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| Lewis Stumpf 13.01.2011 | Some touch screen fun (not multi-touch), could fairly easily be done with an arduino or similar programmable circuit I believe. I looked into it for my own project, but I didn't figure there'd be much interest, so I didn't spend a lot of time on. Guess I was wrong |
| Chas Giraldez 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
This config just makes it out to be a glorified apc. |
| Random X 13.01.2011 | KP3 would be awesome! |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 | nice 3D! looking forward to learning maya! touchpad should have to be more like K3 and kaossilator. they are much more functional then a mouse touchpad. |
| Random X 13.01.2011 | Nice! |
| Lewis Stumpf 13.01.2011 | Hey, did a quick mockup of the existing X1 to get a feel for the size and construction. I'll move on to the mods tomorrow, most likely |
| Random X 13.01.2011 | Yeah, I'm believeing touchpad and 4 rows of 3 arcade buttons. ('cause I believe an X-1 will not fit 4 arcade buttons next to each other) |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 | I looked at the dimensions from those touchpads. a big one could fit easily on a X1. when you flip the small one 90 degrees you van fit 2 of those next to each other. I believe one big one would be way better. article DJTT ean explains how it could be used. You could always just buy them and stick them everywhere in your setup. |
| Random X 13.01.2011 | And check this one for awesome BCR-ness. (Begins as question about, and continues with more and more linkage) |
| Random X 13.01.2011 | BCR topics have a long history in my bookmarks I have indeed seen the BCR paint mods on other sites, but the labels have always been an issue for me. I want the lexplastics to be transparent, not colored. Touchpad Just have it like you wrote; awesomeness. |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 | Tekki: some more BCR fun: http://community .ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=87545 http://www.lexplastics.co.uk/ on lexplastics they got label overlays you can buy. shall we start a BCR thread? about the touchpad: like an x-y controller like korg kaoss serie? or korg nano? I like that idea alot, also for ableton. these touchpads were covered in a DJTT article a while back. XL: http://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/eu/xl_touchpad.php normal: http://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/eu/...c_touchpad.php should be possible to program a touchpad to X-Y controller and faders when shift is pressed. I cant program for shit but I know there are ppl on this community who could. |
| Random X 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by V-Hoff
I might conjure up a touchpad with 3 by 4 arcade button line up. |
| Irwin Ney 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
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| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
more knobs? instead of buttons or faders?
Originally Posted by ChrisEPIC
the FX unit has got a bit more editing in it than the previous ones. I got the pads from a launchpad, changed the LED colour (I like white & dark blue LED's the most). I'm looking forward to the 3d mockup by safefire |
| Josh Villavaso 13.01.2011 | what software are you guys using for all this? like photoshop? |
| Lewis Stumpf 13.01.2011 | Suppose you threw in an extra row of knobs at the top, making it 3x4 instead of 2x4, wouldn't you easily be able to control four decks that way? Both traktor and ableton oughta work with that setup. |
| Random X 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
Might be mixing/mocking this up with my M4 concept. |
| Lewis Stumpf 13.01.2011 | Now now, you haven't been stealing my ideas what you? |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 | kontrol FX1 I'd buy two of them in preorder |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 | I was looking at the BCR and wondered if you could change the looks, wouldn't be easy with all the seperate parts. If you keep the distances between the controlls the same it'd be possible, I believe |
| Random X 13.01.2011 | That's an ace page Joost, I could not even find one proper page on the innards of a BCR2000. (Except for the yahoogroups) Will be looking into this one, 'cause I would still love to have the mighty BCR in a metal casing. |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by safefire
haven't seen any LED encoder components. I know the BCR2000 encoders are made from separate parts pictures over here I don't know how other encoders are constructed, I hope not in this way then it is pretty much out of our reach. |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by bobsagat666
offcourse, your free tu use the ideas.
Originally Posted by ChrisEPIC
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| Lewis Stumpf 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by bobsagat666
As for dimensions, dimensions of the X1, or of the encoders? The Native Instruments X1 is W120 mm x H52 mm x D294 mm The Height is probably off, as 52mm looks to be including knobs. |
| Josh Villavaso 12.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by joostiisme
lol, sooo. honestly. i just woke up this evening and i noticed i had this page open. and i seriously dont remember doing any of this. lmao i even have all the photos and shiit open haha |
| Marlena Mouer 12.01.2011 | i would love to get involved in this project as I am just finishing a midifighter knock off with faders and some joysticks. Im having success with arduino for the brain as it is cost effective and gives you many options. The one problem is you have to run an additional small program on the pc side to convert the serial to midi. Not really a huge deal. Also any ideas on sources for the led ringed encoders? I may start a 3d model in sketchup. Can anybody provide some dimensions?? |
| Demetra Pinizzotto 12.01.2011 | nice Im studying architecture in a few weeks my maya classes start looking forward to it alot! Maya and CAD are usefull tools if I'd ever make a controller myself. aaaaaand we're back on topic. I'm working on a FX module any suggestions? |
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