Headphones
Headphones Posted on: 06.01.2011 by Dillon Paganini So my old headphones crapped out on me and I have never been to much of an audiophile so I was hoping some of the community here could give me some tips on headphones that I am looking at. The List: Ultrasone DJ1 Pros (worried about build, heard they are not the greatest) Allen & Heath Xone XD-53 Somewhat noobish but I have a 50% off coupon for Skullcandy products but I was looking at the SK Pro Carbons just because they would be cheap.] any suggestions around $150? Thanks DJ TT community! | |
Johnetta Olewine 31.01.2012 | Yes. I like a flat response because I play music that is a bit more complex than just a fully sick beat. OMG, there is even a time when there isn't any beats! Somebody should believe of the children. But hey. I don't quote spec sheets so what would i know. just a quick overview of some pretty prominent Djs using a flat response headphone: lee Burridge Paul van Dyke Derrick Carter But listen to Dookielex. He knows more than these guys for sure. |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 | That's the best you could come up with Mr. Flat Frequency Headphones are Good for DJing? |
Johnetta Olewine 31.01.2012 | I suggest the OP goes and listens to some of the headphones suggested that are in the specified price range. Or you can listen to the "spec sheet critic" above and go straight to the most expensive options because nothing else is going to work. Like I said, if Derrick Carter chooses V6s, and has chosen them for long long time, then some lesser being is going to be fine. Fuck the "sound" pedants. |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by rcs1113
As for oliosky, I'm sorry if you don't really care about WHAT you're listening to because it's apparent that you don't. As long as the thing can be loud and plays sounds, you're apparently fine with it. There's a HUGE evening and day difference between the V6/7506 and a pair of HD-25s or HDJ-2000s. You don't need an audiophile to be able to hear the dramatic difference between the two. You're stating the difference as if we were comparing Sennheiser HD550s to the HD650s where much of the sound is subtly different yet the price difference between the two are dramatic. THAT sort of comparison would be a audiophile comparison. A V6/7506 and HD-25/HDJ-2000 comparison however is a right in your face, evening and day, OBVIOUS difference. Heck, the fact that you've mentioned how the V6/7506 have a flat response and thus very good for DJing, I should have just ignored your comments after that because the first thing for a pair of DJ headphones is to NOT have a flat response pair of headphones, you need one with most of the emphasis on the lower frequencies and then some emphasis on the higher frequencies because when you mix, you need to hear the beat as well as things like the high hat. DJ headphone mixing 101 here. Flat responses are not great for DJing and there's a reason why the V6/7506 aren't really all that popular with DJs. Some do use them but at the end of the day, they aren't that popular because they really aren't the right tools for the job. Saying how you see a DJ wear them means nothing, because again, you can mix perfectly fine with a really bad pair of $30 headphones if you really wanted to. They won't sound good but it will get the job done. |
Johnetta Olewine 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by dookiex
For that price the V6s are more than adequate. And they have been more than adequate for DJs the world over for decades. Sound is definitely something i care about. But i don't sit naked next to my 10grand audiophile turntable listening to pink noise and taking notes while using terms like "anemic". I DJ and my experience in a DJ booth lends me to believe that sony v6s are good mid range options that i find very comfortable. And they are around $150. |
Kati Khait 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by dookiex
This is such a tough decision I wish I could test them all out somewhere. HDJ2ks seem a bit too much for me price wise as well as my intended purpose. you brought up that certain dj's use headphones even if they are sub par to other ones and one example I can see is that when I watched the tomorrowland video I saw avicii using the crossfades which I guess is part of my argument for them. Not the fact that "oh i want to have all the gear avicii uses" but more along the lines of if he was able to use these to mix in front of tens of thousands of people then it must be fine for me. Do you believe guitar center will carry these phones? |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
As for your comment about HD-25 and how they don't fit well on people's heads, the majority of the complains are from new owners and that is mostly due to them never having had used headclamp style headphones. This complaint basically goes away after the first week or so. Your comment about Pioneers being not very durable, that's a complete crock if you actually had any experience with the HDJ-2000s. They are near indestructible and this goes all the way down to the cord and the mini XLR locking connection. The HDJ-2000s are MILES away from the other Pioneer phones. Durability is NOT a concern on the HDJ-2000s. Basically at the end of the day, you suggesting so adamantly about the V6, you might as well just suggest to the person to go and find whatever headphones they can find that they can crank really loud as long as it's around $50-$70. Obviously how the phones sounds isn't something you care about. |
Johnetta Olewine 31.01.2012 | yay you with all your headphones. i too have used many many headphones over the time I've been DJing. The V6s are absolutely fine for DJing. They are flat, clear and last a long time. Debating the minor nuances of sound quality for accross good quality dj headphones is redundant. HD25s often dont fit people very well, the pioneers regularly break and cost a fortune. The v6s are comfortable, sound good, go loud and don't cost a fortune if you lose them, spill a beer on them or stand on them after your 10th shot of patron... |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
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Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by rcs1113
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Johnetta Olewine 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by dookiex
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Kati Khait 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by dookiex
http://www.head-fi.org/t/586863/senn...moda-m-80-v-80 I believe I am going to go with the hd-25 but I'm just weary of comfortability as some people say the senns put a lot of pressure on the head/ears and can cause headaches. |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
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Johnetta Olewine 31.01.2012 | Fucking sony v6s. Close the thread. |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by rcs1113
Let's put it this way, the phones I've suggested will last you for years even if you're the type that abuses gear , these things will take a beating without a sweat. You're basically paying a little more now but after 3-4 years of owning them and with them still working like they were when you bought them, you actually end up saving money in the long run. |
Kati Khait 31.01.2012 | Not considering skullcandy at all, those things are crap! V-moda just seemed like the better option since i'm not a professional dj and more designed for casual listening. I casually listen to music and study more than I dj plus they are much cheaper than the others and seem to be, based on reviews, on a similar playing field as the senns so there is the basis of my argument for the v-moda's. Not gonna lie, looks are important to me and I really like the look of the senns as well as the v-modas. They both look streamlined, lightweight and more in the range of what I'm looking for. I suppose in a nutshell I am looking more for a casual listener than a dj'ing headphone but still have the option to mix with my headphone I'm gonna have to visit the apple store and guitar center to see if they have either of these to test them out |
Clinton Voran 31.01.2012 | I would go with HD-25-1 ii, Ultrasone DJ1 Pros (even though they are ugly, they still deliver phenomenal SQ, decent isolation, and built like a tank), and the Pioneer HDJ-2000. All three are in the $200-$250 range and will last you basically a lifetime. I've personally dealt with all three manufacturers and their customer service and repairs are excellent. As an aside, I can't believe people are considering things such as Vmoda and Skullcandy. Blegh. |
Rolanda Clodfelder 31.01.2012 | Just because you have $150 to spend, doesn't mean you have to spend it all in one shop I was gonna chime in (once again) and say sony MDR-V6's, but the price seems to have gone up $50 in the past month to the same price as..... The almost identical (gold plug is the difference) Sony MDR-7506's [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_2"]Amazon.com: Sony MDR7506 Professional Large Diaphragm Headphone: Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YPVE2TWNL.@@AMEPARAM@@41YPVE2TWNL[/ame] They really will last forever and sound awesome on the road or in a studio. I can't say enough good words about the HD25's either, so comfortable and light sound great with oodles of volume, they add a lil too much "oomph" factor, my ears got fatigued pretty fast during day to day listening. Sony V700's fall apart, as do Pioneer 1000's, the 500's are prosumer but feel well built, more like senn's. I wouldn't even dream of skull candy's .. they are fashion accessories, not tools (and you need a tool). |
Kati Khait 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Conall
Just so I can try to get an unbiased opinion (since everyone typically promotes senns) in what instances would you encourage the v-moda's over the senns? |
Inez Marcinik 31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by rcs1113
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Kati Khait 31.01.2012 | Sorry for the lengthy post Hey guys I was reading here and while I thought I was set on hd-25s I was checking out the v-moda crossfades online today. Anyone have an opinion on them? I watched some youtube reviews and many said that aren't true to sound with a little more bass than normal and more for general listening. That doesn't bother me too much but how do you believe they weigh out dollar for dollar in comparison to the hd-25s? Obviously the hd-25s are better and would be my first choice but they are also like $75 more (about $115 compared with $200) which is a lot of money for a teenager who is saving up for college. I have never used good headphones before in my life so obviously either of these are going to sound godly to me so as long as they're pretty true with a good kick of bass is pretty much what I want. Comfortability/light weight is also a pretty important feature to have as my major is pretty difficult and will require many hours of study so having something that won't hurt is important. Not sure if this is a big deal breaker with the senns as some people have said they can be pretty tight on the ears but I have an average sized head so not sure. Noise isolation: this just means how much sound they block out right, I don't want to confuse this with noise cancelling which I don't need. The senns have better isolation but I really don't know how much I need. I am only in my room right now but want to play at frat houses next year so it shouldn't be too loud there. Durability: As much as I'd like to say I would take absolute best care of them, I feel like I am not the most careful person. Not that I would toss them around or anything but if I forget about them in my backpack and then accidentally step on my backpack while it's on the floor. I know that v-moda has a pretty good warranty and 50% off for the rest of your life if you damage them, so that's pretty enticing. Not sure about senns. Summary: need something comfortable, good for everyday/casual/library use, will not be worn to the gym, not used for producing, will maybe be used for house parties but i'm far from that point, spending less money would be ideal here but if the senns truly are much better I can drop the cash. Also saw these but kinda pricey in comparison to the crossfades but seem better and more like the senns. http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-True-Blood-V-80-Noise-Isolating/dp/B0058M3RXW"]Amazon.com: V-MODA for True Blood V-80 On-Ear Noise-Isolating Metal Headphone: Electronics [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Crossfade-Limited-Over-Ear-Noise-Isolating-Headphone/dp/B005HMBQR2/ref=dp_ob_title_ce"]Amazon.com: V-MODA Crossfade LP2 Limited Edition Over-Ear Noise-Isolating Metal Headphone (Matte Black): Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tLa7hRyCL.@@AMEPARAM@@41tLa7hRyCL[/ame] [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Crossfade-Over-Ear-Noise-Isolating-Headphone-Phantom/dp/B003BYRGLI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328059904&sr =1-3"]Amazon.com: V-MODA Crossfade LP Over-Ear Noise-Isolating Metal Headphone (Phantom Chrome): Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CAZa1kgnL.@@AMEPARAM@@41CAZa1kgnL[/ame] Can't find the exact senns on amazon Also if anyone has knowledge of where I can get senns under $200 that would be awesome. It seems that $115-$120 is a pretty common price for the crossfades on ebay, but not sure if I should buy from ebay. |
Dillon Paganini 09.01.2011 | +1 for theory's quote. I ordered a pair of the DJ1 Pros. They were cheaper then the xd-53's and more to my style than the HD-25's. I hope to post a review on this thread when I get them, thanks everyone for the help but I hope we continue this discussion on headphones. I'd love to hear user input on other brands! Thanks everyone |
Maisie Marras 09.01.2011 | for the record i dont really feel the hdj 500's on my ears that much unless i bob my head hard unfortunately, what i dont like is that theyre just as wide as my over ears. but i guess thats the trade off for better drivers. |
Maricruz Mouw 09.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Conall
On topic: I have a pair of DJ1's and there pretty good imo |
Lin Danek 08.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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Danae Dumler 08.01.2011 | +1 on the AIAIAIs. I finally broke down and bought some and they are amazing for the price. But the foam cups are not made for DJing - in fact I'd say they're not made for using at all. The leather ones provide the sound isolation you'll want when you're playing in a loud club, and they sound a lot better for just listening to them too. |
Dillon Paganini 07.01.2011 | thanks you guys this is some good info! |
Rosina Gholami 07.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by DigitalManipulation
The sound-stage is amazing, you feel like your at a concert in the orchestra pit. Bass is tight, mids and highs are crisp but never metallic. I'd say they offer a pretty flat response, prolly add a little on the low end but they are really good at letting you hear exactly what the song sounds like. They can get really loud! I have yet to hear them sound bad, im too afraid to put the volume up too loud because I know they will break my ears before the drivers break! |
Gilma Marchini 07.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Conall
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Inez Marcinik 07.01.2011 | sennheiser hd-25's id say... amazing sound quality, good isolation, every single part is replaceable (and spare parts are readily available online)so if something breaks you dont need to buy a whole new pair of headphones. |
Lin Danek 07.01.2011 | Got Bose QC15's (noise-cancelling over ear) and Sony MDR700 (buds) for listening - both are great. Speakers are Boston Accoustic. Had Sennheiser HD205's - they suck. Recently trialed Dres', Aerial7 Tanks. Dres' DO sound good - but I felt like a pimp & they are high maintenance - glossy finish, batteries etc. Tanks OK - bulky and narrow sound stage. Narrowed options down to Grado 225i and AiAiAi tma-1's. Went latter. Without doubt one of the finest purchases I have made. Sexier than Ann Hathaway (you don't know whether to look at them or listen with them) and a rich, true sound stage. Great bass, crisp in the high end. Leather noise cancelling cups for listening, foam cups for DJing. Coiled cable, plugs in both ends (with adaptor). Comfortable and light. QC15's gathering dust. And no, I dont work for AiAiAi |
Maisie Marras 07.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by tyfurious
good lord. |
Dillon Paganini 07.01.2011 | the dre's bleed so bad i feel plus it feels like something is attacking my head with them on |
So Francis 07.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by tyfurious
So in short, don't by dre's +1 |
Dillon Paganini 07.01.2011 | thanks guys for the tips, anybody know anything about the two mentioned? (and eph eew see kay dre) haha |
Gilma Marchini 07.01.2011 | I sadly am not familiar with many headsets in that range... Just don't buy Dre's. |
So Francis 07.01.2011 | I love my v-moda Crossfade LP's...they're more geared toward general listening but they work great for DJ'ing as well. They are amazing at noise isolation and come with everything you need. You do pay extra for style and looks though, so its not like its 100 percent geared toward sound production but it sounds good. at (the price i got them for) 130 |
Maisie Marras 06.01.2011 | i have a pair of denon hp 1000 no complaints there. i also have some pioneer hdj 500 if you dont need heavy noise blocking, they will do fine |
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