Headphones

Headphones
Posted on: 06.01.2011 by Dillon Paganini
So my old headphones crapped out on me and I have never been to much of an audiophile so I was hoping some of the community here could give me some tips on headphones that I am looking at.

The List:

Ultrasone DJ1 Pros (worried about build, heard they are not the greatest)

Allen & Heath Xone XD-53

Somewhat noobish but I have a 50% off coupon for Skullcandy products but I was looking at the SK Pro Carbons just because they would be cheap.]

any suggestions around $150?

Thanks DJ TT community!
Joselyn Supina
14.02.2012
Originally Posted by Cybertrash
The worst part about them is the people who claim that "they have the best sound quality ever" and smugly say that "they're listening to music the way it was intended to sound".
Ha, their compressed mp3 they downloaded from some random torrent site is the way music should sound.
Inez Marcinik
14.02.2012
Originally Posted by Cybertrash
The worst part about them is the people who claim that "they have the best sound quality ever" and smugly say that "they're listening to music the way it was intended to sound".
this is what gets me the most
Evelyn Navarijo
14.02.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
They're not terrible sounding headphones; too bassy but not unreasonably so, particularly if you want to listen to hip hop all the time. But they're a lifestyle product, not a DJ product and certainly not "hifi" gear. And while they look cool, they are not made to take any kind of BEATing -- those pretty one piece headpieces snap in two pretty easily; every display I've seen at best buy or whatever has a broken pair. Whereas as others noted you can twist up the headpiece on Senns or TMAs without worrying about breaking them.
The worst part about them is the people who claim that "they have the best sound quality ever" and smugly say that "they're listening to music the way it was intended to sound".
Clinton Voran
02.02.2012
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
Yeah they are flexiable but I have visions of leaving in my truck overevening when it's -40 and them cracking when they warm up lol. Likely will be a stay at home pair....

Parents sent them to me for a Christmas preset and were quite proud of themselves so I have to keep them lol. Plus the sound is stellar on them believe they are ae2s


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There's a pair of Bose QC3s (similar headband to the AE2s) lying around my house. The flexibility that deevey is talking about is not the same flexibility that you have on the Bose. The flexibility and durability of HD-25-1 iis and the Ahahah's are at the level where you can basically through them at tile walls a good number of times and the things will still be in good condition.
Joselyn Supina
14.02.2012
Originally Posted by Cybertrash
The worst part about them is the people who claim that "they have the best sound quality ever" and smugly say that "they're listening to music the way it was intended to sound".
Ha, their compressed mp3 they downloaded from some random torrent site is the way music should sound.
Candy Vardy
14.02.2012
Hey guys, these are a pair of custom Senns I'm having made right now. They are almost complete, they just need the pearlescent finish and UV cable wrap.

Cost me a bit, but I believe they are awesome. I should be getting them next week.

Ada Matzkin
14.02.2012
i recently picked up the A&H XD-53

very satisfied.
Rolanda Clodfelder
14.02.2012
They sell more than probably any other "expensive" headphone out there, you have to hand it to them their marketing is absolutely stellar.

Their new Mixr line actually look like well built, and quite cleverly designed headphones for live dj / touring use, just a shame they are the same price as pioneers which are also just as overrated IMHO, also a shame David Guetta is on the credits.

If I wanted something soley for the club use and was getting paid bundles of cash I would consider giving them a whirl. They look comfortable and durable and no doubt loud, when you are trying to make out the next tune with 120db's in a DJ box isolation and levels play a bigger part than making out the Beatles overdub on a Pink Floyd record.
Inez Marcinik
14.02.2012
Originally Posted by Cybertrash
The worst part about them is the people who claim that "they have the best sound quality ever" and smugly say that "they're listening to music the way it was intended to sound".
this is what gets me the most
Evelyn Navarijo
14.02.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
They're not terrible sounding headphones; too bassy but not unreasonably so, particularly if you want to listen to hip hop all the time. But they're a lifestyle product, not a DJ product and certainly not "hifi" gear. And while they look cool, they are not made to take any kind of BEATing -- those pretty one piece headpieces snap in two pretty easily; every display I've seen at best buy or whatever has a broken pair. Whereas as others noted you can twist up the headpiece on Senns or TMAs without worrying about breaking them.
The worst part about them is the people who claim that "they have the best sound quality ever" and smugly say that "they're listening to music the way it was intended to sound".
Danae Dumler
14.02.2012
beats just have a bad rep because they were aggressively over promoted and so friggin expensive for what they are. Dre was a smart enough businessman to believe of this first; I was at CES this year and it seems like every damn rap star who exists now has a signature pair of headphones. If you believe Beats are annoying wait until you start hearing about RZAs from WESC, or several of the others I can't remember.

They're not terrible sounding headphones; too bassy but not unreasonably so, particularly if you want to listen to hip hop all the time. But they're a lifestyle product, not a DJ product and certainly not "hifi" gear. And while they look cool, they are not made to take any kind of BEATing -- those pretty one piece headpieces snap in two pretty easily; every display I've seen at best buy or whatever has a broken pair. Whereas as others noted you can twist up the headpiece on Senns or TMAs without worrying about breaking them.
Kati Khait
13.02.2012
Friend of mine tweeted this. if there's anything I've learned while a member at djtt it would be NOT TO BUY BEATS. Sad to see about $1000 wasted
Kati Khait
06.02.2012
Thanks for all the help guys. I decided to go with the v-moda despite some people's opinions. I was so close to getting the senns but with the money I saved I can now buy a traktor dj2 soundcard and a pair of in ear monitors for exercising, working in the yard, etc.
Trista Karle
02.02.2012
Haha yes I know what a mean but as stated will be an at home pair


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Rolanda Clodfelder
02.02.2012
The flexibility that deevey is talking about is not the same flexibility that you have on the Bose.
Exactly, the plastic on the Senns(any model), TMA, HDJ500's is the kind that is almost unbreakable, you can twist and turn it till the cows come come, stand on them, throw em at a wall. You'll understand when you have a pair in your hand.
Clinton Voran
02.02.2012
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
Yeah they are flexiable but I have visions of leaving in my truck overevening when it's -40 and them cracking when they warm up lol. Likely will be a stay at home pair....

Parents sent them to me for a Christmas preset and were quite proud of themselves so I have to keep them lol. Plus the sound is stellar on them believe they are ae2s


Sent from my jailbroken iPhone
There's a pair of Bose QC3s (similar headband to the AE2s) lying around my house. The flexibility that deevey is talking about is not the same flexibility that you have on the Bose. The flexibility and durability of HD-25-1 iis and the Ahahah's are at the level where you can basically through them at tile walls a good number of times and the things will still be in good condition.
Trista Karle
02.02.2012
Yeah they are flexiable but I have visions of leaving in my truck overevening when it's -40 and them cracking when they warm up lol. Likely will be a stay at home pair....

Parents sent them to me for a Christmas preset and were quite proud of themselves so I have to keep them lol. Plus the sound is stellar on them believe they are ae2s


Sent from my jailbroken iPhone
Rolanda Clodfelder
02.02.2012
All plastic construction is fine so long as its Sennheiser / TMA / HDJ500 more rubbery flexible type.

(IMHO of course)
Trista Karle
02.02.2012
No doubt will keep in mind as I have a ok pair of cans but their all plastic construction Bose sound is stellar though just wonder how long will last


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Rolanda Clodfelder
02.02.2012
Ba ah haha ok so good for a iPod headphone or is quality of sound good for the 99 dolla price tag?
Sound is "passable" build quality leaves something to be desired, honestly I'd just stay away unless you just want a fashion accessory (and i don't believe they look stylish whatsoever).

There's much better out there with a $100 or thereabouts budget.
Kati Khait
02.02.2012
Originally Posted by dookiex
Like deevey described and what I have previously mentioned, if you just want to mix, you can practically use anything to mix with as long as you can hear what's coming out of it loud enough. It doesn't mean that it's going to sound great but it will get the job done.

However, a good healthy bump to the lower frequencies along with a bump to the higher frequencies will help out A LOT. Also, like deevey mentions, buy well once and it will last you for a very long time. Headphones are an investment that is just as important as your turntables/CDJs/mixer/controller. Think of it like this, you're probably going to be out and about listening to music and with portable music listening, you'll need a pair of headphones. So if you're going to get a pair for mixing, might as well invest a bit more for a pair that will sound great for your day to day use as well as being great for mixing with. A great pair of headphones not only pulls double duty but at the end of the day, it's an investment that pays off in spades over time.

Here's the thing that I find ridiculous, people always asks questions about what is the best controller, or mixer, or turntable, or CDJs, etc. but when it comes to headphones, they treat that purchase like a redheaded step child. If you're going to get into DJing, you're going to be listening to a lot of music both while your not mixing as well as when you're mixing, a pair of headphones is going to be one of the most used piece of gear out of your arsenal, might as well get a great pair.
Originally Posted by SJJVEN
hey, just wanted to chime in and let you know what I believe as I own the V-moda Crossfade LPs and the HDJ-2000s. From what I understand you want a headphone that you can use both for your day-day things + djing. When it comes down to that I believe the V-moda lp is the better choice. I've had the lp's for way over a year now and they're built to last. Once you break them in they sound a LOT better. It is true that they emphasize the low end more then your typical dj headphone, but thats because its meant to be used with your ipod/mp3/phone as well.

The HDJ-2000s are great headphones, I've just got mine about a month ago and I can't say nothing but good things about em. Although if you will be using them for your ipod on the go, then your cable will sure piss you off Also the LP's are really comfortable, too me more comfortable then my 2000s. In the end you should try all your options out before you make your decision. Everyone is different when it comes to comfort/fit so it will come down to that.

If you have any questions about the v-modas, feel free to ask
Yes! thank you so much. I'm going to check out the v-modas at the apple store this weekend so hopefully they'll have them. And it's not that I'm trying to skimp out on a headphone, I'm fine with paying for senns, it's just that I want whatever I'm going to buy to be extremely comfortable. That's my main concern.
Trista Karle
02.02.2012
Ba ah haha ok so good for a iPod headphone or is quality of sound good for the 99 dolla price tag?


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Rolanda Clodfelder
02.02.2012
Numark Redwave = Skullcandy and Sony v700's had a baby.
Trista Karle
02.02.2012
No mention of numark red waves anyone try them just curious on them... Have a lower end pair of Bose ones I got lower as in under 200 quality of sound amazing but all plastic worries me.


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Rolanda Clodfelder
01.02.2012
Here's the thing that I find ridiculous, people always asks questions about what is the best controller, or mixer, or turntable, or CDJs, etc. but when it comes to headphones, they treat that purchase like a redheaded step child. If you're going to get into DJing, you're going to be listening to a lot of music both while your not mixing as well as when you're mixing, a pair of headphones is going to be one of the most used piece of gear out of your arsenal, might as well get a great pair.
Well said! ..

A good set of headphones will probably outlast every piece of gear you own and will be the most used. Not something to skimp on or tread lightly about, kinda like underwear.
Marcos Zelko
01.02.2012
hey, just wanted to chime in and let you know what I believe as I own the V-moda Crossfade LPs and the HDJ-2000s. From what I understand you want a headphone that you can use both for your day-day things + djing. When it comes down to that I believe the V-moda lp is the better choice. I've had the lp's for way over a year now and they're built to last. Once you break them in they sound a LOT better. It is true that they emphasize the low end more then your typical dj headphone, but thats because its meant to be used with your ipod/mp3/phone as well.

The HDJ-2000s are great headphones, I've just got mine about a month ago and I can't say nothing but good things about em. Although if you will be using them for your ipod on the go, then your cable will sure piss you off Also the LP's are really comfortable, too me more comfortable then my 2000s. In the end you should try all your options out before you make your decision. Everyone is different when it comes to comfort/fit so it will come down to that.

If you have any questions about the v-modas, feel free to ask
Clinton Voran
01.02.2012
Like deevey described and what I have previously mentioned, if you just want to mix, you can practically use anything to mix with as long as you can hear what's coming out of it loud enough. It doesn't mean that it's going to sound great but it will get the job done.

However, a good healthy bump to the lower frequencies along with a bump to the higher frequencies will help out A LOT. Also, like deevey mentions, buy well once and it will last you for a very long time. Headphones are an investment that is just as important as your turntables/CDJs/mixer/controller. Think of it like this, you're probably going to be out and about listening to music and with portable music listening, you'll need a pair of headphones. So if you're going to get a pair for mixing, might as well invest a bit more for a pair that will sound great for your day to day use as well as being great for mixing with. A great pair of headphones not only pulls double duty but at the end of the day, it's an investment that pays off in spades over time.

Here's the thing that I find ridiculous, people always asks questions about what is the best controller, or mixer, or turntable, or CDJs, etc. but when it comes to headphones, they treat that purchase like a redheaded step child. If you're going to get into DJing, you're going to be listening to a lot of music both while your not mixing as well as when you're mixing, a pair of headphones is going to be one of the most used piece of gear out of your arsenal, might as well get a great pair.
Jody Goman
01.02.2012
I paid $160 for a new set of AIAIAI TMA-1's....If youre looking in the $150 range, find a good price on TMA-1s and click 'BUY'. You will not regret it.
Rolanda Clodfelder
01.02.2012
I have the worst head cold I have ever had in my life right now so perhaps I should wait until it subsides as to gain a more accurate opinion of the phones.
+1 Yes wait until you are 100% better before going testing in the shop, your sinus' will be blocked which will affect ALOT what frequencies you can hear properly and the volume levels you need to sound acceptable.

Bring two or three tracks you know inside out how they should sound, something quiet & instrumental, Something Bassy, Something Noisy.
Kati Khait
01.02.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
I listened to the V-Modas in the Apple store in SF side by side with some other headphones including TMAs, B+Ws and a few others I don't remember. There were Senns there but not the 25s. Everything sounded better than the V-Modas. Not by much -- I was actually surprised at how acceptable the sound was as I was expecting them to sound like WESCs or Skull Candy -- but they were still my last choice both from a DJ perspective and from a listener perspective. They also were poor in terms of sound isolation, at least compared to other DJ headphones (to me the TMAs - and probably the Senns since the design is similar - provide excellent sound isolation).
Originally Posted by deevey
This is fun

For DJ purposes you should only need 4 things.

1. Hear the frequencies well enough without straining your ears
2. Be loud enough to handle a festival or whopper club sound system
3. Be durable
4. Be comfortable after an 8 hour set.
5. Provide adequate sound isolation.

You don't need an analytical headphone in a loud club, you also don't need the loudest headphone for cueing if you can hear the parts you need. You also don't need the most expensive headphones out there - IMHO picking phones for LIVE dj'ing is a lot easier than a singer or band.

You should know your tracks well enough that once you hear any semblance of a high hat, drum beat, vocal or synth that you can mix the tracks - actual sound quality barely comes into play, so long as you aren't distorting the headphones.

A $15 set of Ross headphones tick almost all the boxes apart from durability.
A $40 set of Sony v500's ticks most of the boxes apart from durability.
A set of skull candy's tick most of the boxes apart from durability.
A set of Beats pro's tick most of the boxes apart from durability.
A set of beats studio's (not pro's) ticks all the boxes
A set of Vmoda's ticks all the boxes
A set of hd25's tick all the boxes
A set of sony mdr-v6 / 7506 ticks all the boxes
A set of T1's ticks all the boxes
A set of Pio HDJ2000's ticks all the boxes

But thats for Live - working Dj'ing though - plain and simple off ear monitoring.

Now when it comes to home/studio/library/ipod/bedroom dj, its a completely different story, you want high quality sound at lower levels + comfort + isolation (so you don't annoy your mum/gf/wife etc ..)

Personally for a multipurpose headphone its the V6's/7506 for me, if i'm on my iPod I use the treble reducer so the edge is taken off and I don't get fatigued, they generally make stuff sound like it should, love it or hate it.

Through the years, I've had Hd25 & SP models for DJ'ing (until stolen) Sennheiser 414's for home listening (really nice cozy headphones), v500's for DJing, Behringer HPX4000 (was stuck), Ross Headphones (Really stuck but they lasted a year) as well as a few more seen models which escape me and a few more "no-name" brands as well.

My Sony's have lasted over 12 long years of abuse now though and sound better than ever and I haven't had any reason to replace them or found anything else that i'm comfortable enough with to try just yet.

Buy well once and you will not need another headphone for years. Its really down to personal preference - the good brands are quite simply good for the most part, pioneer 1000's excluded.
Ahh thank you guys for a more unbiased opinion. I believe I will go to the apple store today or tomorrow and see what they have. I have the worst head cold I have ever had in my life right now so perhaps I should wait until it subsides as to gain a more accurate opinion of the phones.
Rolanda Clodfelder
01.02.2012
This is fun

For DJ purposes you should only need 4 things.

1. Hear the frequencies well enough without straining your ears
2. Be loud enough to handle a festival or whopper club sound system
3. Be durable
4. Be comfortable after an 8 hour set.
5. Provide adequate sound isolation.

You don't need an analytical headphone in a loud club, you also don't need the loudest headphone for cueing if you can hear the parts you need. You also don't need the most expensive headphones out there - IMHO picking phones for LIVE dj'ing is a lot easier than a singer or band.

You should know your tracks well enough that once you hear any semblance of a high hat, drum beat, vocal or synth that you can mix the tracks - actual sound quality barely comes into play, so long as you aren't distorting the headphones.

A $15 set of Ross headphones tick almost all the boxes apart from durability.
A $40 set of Sony v500's ticks most of the boxes apart from durability.
A set of skull candy's tick most of the boxes apart from durability.
A set of Beats pro's tick most of the boxes apart from durability.
A set of beats studio's (not pro's) ticks all the boxes
A set of Vmoda's ticks all the boxes
A set of hd25's tick all the boxes
A set of sony mdr-v6 / 7506 ticks all the boxes
A set of T1's ticks all the boxes
A set of Pio HDJ2000's ticks all the boxes

But thats for Live - working Dj'ing though - plain and simple off ear monitoring.

Now when it comes to home/studio/library/ipod/bedroom dj, its a completely different story, you want high quality sound at lower levels + comfort + isolation (so you don't annoy your mum/gf/wife etc ..)

Personally for a multipurpose headphone its the V6's/7506 for me, if i'm on my iPod I use the treble reducer so the edge is taken off and I don't get fatigued, they generally make stuff sound like it should, love it or hate it.

Through the years, I've had Hd25 & SP models for DJ'ing (until stolen) Sennheiser 414's for home listening (really nice cozy headphones), v500's for DJing, Behringer HPX4000 (was stuck), Ross Headphones (Really stuck but they lasted a year) as well as a few more seen models which escape me and a few more "no-name" brands as well.

My Sony's have lasted over 12 long years of abuse now though and sound better than ever and I haven't had any reason to replace them or found anything else that i'm comfortable enough with to try just yet.

Buy well once and you will not need another headphone for years. Its really down to personal preference - the good brands are quite simply good for the most part, pioneer 1000's excluded.
Danial Sawn
01.02.2012
Arguing about headphones...

Johnetta Olewine
01.02.2012
Originally Posted by dookiex
Coming from you, I'll take my chances with my grammar.
What? No snide several hundred word response? I am disappointed.
Danae Dumler
01.02.2012
I listened to the V-Modas in the Apple store in SF side by side with some other headphones including TMAs, B+Ws and a few others I don't remember. There were Senns there but not the 25s. Everything sounded better than the V-Modas. Not by much -- I was actually surprised at how acceptable the sound was as I was expecting them to sound like WESCs or Skull Candy -- but they were still my last choice both from a DJ perspective and from a listener perspective. They also were poor in terms of sound isolation, at least compared to other DJ headphones (to me the TMAs - and probably the Senns since the design is similar - provide excellent sound isolation).
Clinton Voran
01.02.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
Your grammar is somewhat questionable as well.











Seems I'm pretty fucking good at winding you up too.
Coming from you, I'll take my chances with my grammar.
Johnetta Olewine
01.02.2012
Your grammar is somewhat questionable as well.













Seems I'm pretty fucking good at winding you up too.
Clinton Voran
01.02.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
Paragraphs bro.
I did use paragraphs. I'm sorry if you lack the ability to understand that paragraphs usually do not consist of just the 3 sentence minimum or 140 character tweets.

So now we know, not only are you not very reliable in regards to giving headphone advice, you're also not very reliable on understanding what a paragraph is. Tsk tsk. Or maybe you just haven't see top DJs write and thus figure that hey, they tweet a lot so now paragraphs must magically be a 140 characters and if longer, it's going to be TLDR territory. Good job. What's next?
Johnetta Olewine
01.02.2012
Paragraphs bro.
Clinton Voran
01.02.2012
oliosky, you certainly don't quote spec sheets, you just ape whatever the heck you see other artists use rather than judge something as important and varied as headphones using this thing called your own ears. I've given advice based on experience and having so many headphones and earphones. My headphones and earphones runs the gamut from inexpensive to top end. They all have different uses. Some are for in studio vocals monitoring, some are just for enjoyment, some are for DJ uses. You claim to have used many headphones for DJing yet you write off the dramatic difference between a pair of V6/7056 and HD-25 and HDJ-2000's as simply being nuanced differences, either you're completely deaf or you simply never bothered to compare and contrast. Either way, you're in no position to give advice on headphones ESPECIALLY when your strongest argument boils down to "Hey, look at all these famous people, they are rocking the V6/7056, that means it MUST be good!" According to your logic, everybody should rock those Dre Beats Pros even though they are at least $200 overpriced for what they are, because according to your logic, if one sees famous people rocking something a lot, it must be great (and the Beats Pros are practically everywhere on the DJ scene).
Inez Marcinik
31.01.2012
now now kids

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