Stanton DJC4 - where did that come from ?
Stanton DJC4 - where did that come from ? Posted on: 17.04.2012 by Rolanda Clodfelder This one seemed to have snuck its way in under the radar at Musikmesse, apparently going to be under $350 and has a dedicated mixer and a 4/4 audio interface for DVS ... looks shiny. http://www.stantondj.com/stanton-con...tems/djc4.html Forgive me if its been posted before. | |
| Sharlene Brownsberger 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by ranboggy
I just finished writing it a couple days ago-we didn't want to just run with what someone gave us, but instead wanted to write it for Traktor 2.5 instead (with as few legacy commands for the remix decks as possible). It will be posted to the website in a few days. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 17.07.2012 | Man Hanpin make a lot of cool stuff. |
| Jacelyn Turkson 16.07.2012 | Youhow2 where did you find the traktor mapping? |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 16.07.2012 | just press the "aux" button on the skin to play the live input instead of using timecode. ...or you map "linein" to one pair of controls. There is a heaps of different ways you could map it under shifts on different buttons if you don't want to sacrifice any functionality... if you want help with the script just tell me the buttons you want to do it with. Traktor won't work with the soundcard but you may be able to tell traktor the input is a microphone and route it to a deck so you can use the eq and effects normally, but not sure as I don't use traktor although that's possible in vdj using advanced sound config "not that it's necessary" . Actually looking at it a good candidate for mapping it might be the shifted scratch mode button, If you add the led it will blink if the timecode is bypassed as well as work with vinyl mode for the controller that's just button var '$shift' ? linein : vinyl_mode led (to add the led choose it in the dropdown menu next to the "key learn" button.) linein on ? blink : vinyl_mode on ? blink : off |
| Ike Hallisey 16.07.2012 | thank you synthe1c i do still have the trial and did get it to work with the time codes. i was wondering if you could help me with some more questions. i have the stanton djc.4, 2 stanton t.55 usb turntables, traktor pro 2 software with time code vinyls, and over 300 vinyls(that i would love to use to mix and scratch with). So my question is can i use what i have to mix my vinyl albums? is it possible that there is a software that will allow this pretty little machine to mix 2 vinyl albums since it will mix 2 time coded vinyls? and last ive been searching for hours trying to find midi mappings that will work with traktor pro 2 and i haven't came across anything, my assumption is that it is still very new and it just hasn't been released or made. i read some where that the djc.4 came with mappings for vdj and traktor but i haven't been able to find anything for trakor. I'm hoping i made the right purchases to be able to mix my vinyls as well as do some digital mixing. thanks again. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 16.07.2012 | To get the headphones working choose "headphones" as the output... If the trial is still active to select "timecodes" as the input, then go into the timecode config to set up the type of vinyl you are using "serato, traktor mk1, numark". |
| Ike Hallisey 16.07.2012 | i picked this up hoping to run two turntables into it and do some mixing as a stand alone mixer because it has 2 rca inputs and there both switchable from line to phono, as this turns out it is not a stand alone mixer. it has its own power supply INPUT. it doesn't come with a power supply. stanton says that this is for people who have a later model laptop witch might not have enuf power to run it or just as back up power. this mixer is pretty cool if you want to do just digital files and not run real vinyls. ive only had it for 2 days and im still learning how to use it to my understandings, I haven't been able to get the headphones to work (still need to mess around with the sound card settings). ive read that you can run turntables into it but you have to upgrade to vdj pro for 250 something or other. i did the 20 day vdj pro trial and have got no where. also says it can be used with traktor pro 2 but have not found any mappings yet. this is still pretty brand new and hope to see some positive results out of this. on one last note this mixer is kind of like the wii as it has a dvd drive but doesnt play dvds. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 15.07.2012 | No mapping from atomix has all the effect sliders mapped because there is no defined standard like traktors 4 or serato's 2, you can have as many as there is in a plugin, With guitar rig run as a vst I have had 60 sliders which can all be mapped to controllers when I was playing around with it "in Pro of course", good luck with whatever you choose I've said my piece and this is going nowhere as I'm never going to change my opinion and probably neither are you... but I came from a time when I spent at least $100 a week on vinyl (that's 6 a side tracks) |
| Verdell Garic 15.07.2012 | Dude, They limit the functionality of your controller if you don't have the full version. cant use all the effects settings on the controller, can't use the inputs. certain aspects of the hardware are inaccessible unless you purchase the full version. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 15.07.2012 | the effects plugins are community developed, you have the same crappy ones that atomix made that get released with Pro. Timecode control is the only thing you don't get out of the box but again stanton have made the choice to forgo features to keep costs down, especially considering the small amount of consumers who would actually use timecode. If you want to compare traktor again they don't even allow timecode without expensive hardware, and their LE doesn't have all the effects included either, just enough to wet your appetite. I believe you are expecting too much for what you paid and getting frustrated by the wrong company. It's the hardware company who has final say on what gets included, just look at the hercules rmx which offers timecode and specific shift functioning called "djc buttons" created for the device & the upgrade is only $150 because they would have paid more initially. This shows VDJ LE can have anything from the full version that companies choose. |
| Verdell Garic 15.07.2012 | You can't use the inputs on the controller without upgrading, you can't use all the effects... etc you literally can't use pieces of the hardware without purchasing the software upgrade. That's pretty shitty. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 15.07.2012 | you can do everything stanton signed of on for the LE version they commission from atomix to distribute with their controllers. I had a look at the mapping and everything looks like it has been mapped, it's not like dj intro where you have unmapped controls. So in that respect you have full control over the software, but stanton have made a compromise on your behalf, they pay less for VDJ so you pay less for your controller, but you have to make up the difference to upgrade. Without this there is no way a controller with the quality of the djc.4 could sell for what it's selling for now. But if you want a paid upgrade business model like traktor get on the vdj community and voice your wishes, there was a lot of community interest about this some time ago, but not for the reason of saving money for the user but quite the opposite, providing atomix with more money to grow, as this means more users will stop pirating and they will have to cough up every new version released. I believe this model is the cheapest as I bought VDJ at version 6.05 which was released December 2009 so will have received 3 versions within 3 years for $300 when VDJ 8 hits, I have been djing for 10 years now and still obsessed, to believe of the price difference if I had vdj vs traktor for all those years the cost would definitely add up to two or three times the cost, but these are the time frames NI must be counting on releasing the software as cheap as they are... |
| Verdell Garic 15.07.2012 | If you buy something, you should be able to use all of it. Once I buy a controller, I don't want to, nor do I agree I should have to pay to unlock all the physical features of my hardware. If you don't upgrade VDJ, you can't use all the features of the controller you purchased, which is fucking insane. The lighting and video element should be separate, you should pay extra for feature you want to unlock that have nothing to do with the hardware... Also, Not all markets are the same. Going rate in this area is anywhere from $50-$100 an hour for a club set. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 15.07.2012 | I can't see atomix dropping the price of vdj as they offer so many more possibilities than any other software on the market, and updates are free for life. But if you value the extra features you are in no way being ripped off as the full version unlocks more than buying an equivalently priced piece of hardware. Despite what anyone says about it's reputation, VDJ is designed to be a professional software used by professionals to earn money, it's not a bedroom dj consumer software that's what LE is for. When I had my residency I was paid $250 for an hour set, decent mobile dj's get between $1200 - $7000 per event depending on what they offer. considering that VDJ is the performance heart of the whole system that can control sound, video and lighting $300 is an incredibly small price to pay for such a powerful edition to any professional setup. |
| Verdell Garic 15.07.2012 | Yes, This controller is amazing. I want to see a DJTT mapping and review. Best controller in the $250-$400 price range. Sound card is nice, not incredibly loud but nice clear sound and for sure good enough for professional use. Knobs feel great, The EQ knobs double as buttons to kill the mid, low's and high's, they feel great and they respond well. Pitch faders could be better, but if you are using a controller and arent taking advantage of sync, you should probably be smacked. The buttons are okay, Feel like toggles, but respond well to pressing enough for some more advanced routines. I do wish they were soft plastic buttons like the Tap, Cue and Play buttons. I like the jogs alot, Not well enough for scratching... But you wouldnt be looking at the controller if you were a scratch DJ anyways... The VDJ mapping is amazing. I didnt realize VDJ had stepped it's game up so much with 7. If they can overhaul the effects, some sound processing issues, and maybe update the standard GUI It WILL be a major contender... It already is the most user-friendly software. After that all they'll need to do is update their nazi prices. If you buy a controller for use with the program you shouldnt have to spend another $250 to get the full functionality out of something you already paid for... On a side note, The DJC 4 lets you control 3 effects per deck in VDJ. Also, The Traktor mapping is awesome. What it does need is an effects section overhaul... But that's the only complaint. Very hard to manipulate effects with their current mapping, but generally it works exactly the same as the VDJ mapping and i'm happy with it. This controller has so many features, so many knobs, so many buttons... This controller needs to be the new standard in this price range. I was about to drop 100+ more for an S2, Which has half the features. This controller is like the Kontrol S4, Downsized with a two deck mixer, though it's still easily capable of controlling 4 decks. It's very, very powerful. All the controls you need are there, one way or another. If you are cool with mapping a controller, The sky is the limit. If you can't quite afford to drop money on the a $500+ controller or want a controller that can grow with your skills, This is it. This controller is so versatile it can be used by any level of DJ. Enough features for people with ton's of experience. Straight-forward enough for Newcomers, and it's great for those who fall in-between. If you have any doubts, if you are purchasing a new controller in this price range, BUY THIS ONE. Nothing else compares, Nothing else has this many features. |
| Ginny Fergson 14.07.2012 | Got my eye on one of these, let us know how you get on please? |
| Verdell Garic 09.07.2012 | This controller looks amazing. I'll have mine arriving on tuesday. |
| Renaldo Chansky 21.06.2012 | Here you go: http://djworx.com/review-stanton-djc-4-controller/ |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 21.06.2012 | It's cheaper than the voxia.c60, but it doesn't have the same blue leds or jog leds. But nem0nic said this is made by hanpin who make reloop gear, I trust their stuff will be good quality, although this is a much lower price point, so may be recycled jockey 2 small buttons not the rubber one's from the teminal mix series. But the rest looks like it's taken from the jockey 3/contour; knobs, encoders, and the transport buttons all look the same. VOXOA_C60_01_en.jpg |
| Nila Ragonese 21.06.2012 | definitely curious if they upgraded it much. better faders or what not. |
| Cristian Carmona 21.06.2012 | ill see if I can borrow one to check it out. |
| Nila Ragonese 22.06.2012 | All of these companies that have the same products just rebadged aren't doing much in terms of engineering. They are simply buying off the shelf. A company like stanton though will go and tweak the mapping and feature set to be somewhat unique but sadly its still exactly the same product. It's sad that people assume 1 brand developed and others copied when in reality the factory developed it and sold it to all the brands and cheap brands. |
| Stephanie Bemish 04.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
If you can live with google translations (or better , know some french) the guys at audio fanzine tested the "Audiophony" version of this controller |
| Alena Horten 04.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
and when is the stanton releasing? |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 03.05.2012 | No, you were right. Hanpin makes it, along with the Reloop, Citronic, Voxoa, etc controllers. |
| Sulema Eshel 03.05.2012 | Hmm... they have removed some of their products from their pages since I last looked. Couldn't see the Stanton thingy-ma-jig on there. Maybe another factory? |
| Sulema Eshel 03.05.2012 | I got the Citronic MP-X10 (same as AA Versadeck, Voxoa S60 etc), and after a lot of research found that they are being built by Hanpin www.hanpin.com.tw |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 18.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
Not a bad price given the specs. Voxoa Seem to have rebranded a number of OEM products e.g. American DJ gear as well e.g. S60 = Versadeck, the CD players looks extremely familiar as well. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 17.04.2012 | its another oem... another name for it is the voxoa c60, which is already available from china, although this model is about $500 from memory, and this version has a 4in soundcard so you can plug in tables using vdj. this is just speculation... but it looks like some of the same components as reloop gear, so probably made in the same factory. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 17.04.2012 | jogs look really nice and looks pretty cool overall. not a bad price either... be interesting to see some hands on reviews. |
| Nedra Fresneda 18.04.2012 | Wonder why they mirrored the fx section. Looks like a good contender for the competition in that range, let's hope it's decent. |
| Jenna Skeem 18.04.2012 | remind me of a reloop jockey 2/ and those jogs look really siilar to the ddj-t1's ? or is that just me |
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