Stanton DJC4 - where did that come from ?
Stanton DJC4 - where did that come from ? Posted on: 17.04.2012 by Rolanda Clodfelder This one seemed to have snuck its way in under the radar at Musikmesse, apparently going to be under $350 and has a dedicated mixer and a 4/4 audio interface for DVS ... looks shiny. http://www.stantondj.com/stanton-con...tems/djc4.html Forgive me if its been posted before. | |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 09.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by Morderain
http://maps.djranking s.com/mappings/527 Also http://maps.djranking s.com/users/1059 for all the C60 mappings Oh and heads up - Soundcloud players are not allowed in community signatures round here, so I'd remove it before a mod see's it. |
| Deena Jaroszewski 09.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by Youhow2
Btw it very solid, great jog, and seems very resistant (more than my xponent), the button for the hotcues and samples are lil bit small so doing some kind of hot cues juggling maybe it can be difficoult cause they'r very small and near each other, on the other hand the play/cue button are really large and comfortable and the effects sections are very clean and clear. if anybody has got this mapping send it to me and I'll give my impression about this controller with traktor it' I hate virtual dj so I'm not going to install it. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 05.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Since then, yes, he's testing Mixxx straight up as he didn't need an advanced effects setup (which we didnt know beforehand, hence the VST or Traktor routing etc that I'd suggested) However he'll still need a VST host to use any decent effects with mixxx, its just as easy to route mixxx into Traktor anyhow on separate channels and retain control over the effects section (IMHO). |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 03.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Now we all know thats not possible without an audio 4/6/8/10 - normally. So his options were ... 1. Running timecode on a separate piece of software and routing into Traktor 2. Buying an Audio4 3. Using a different piece of software altogether that not locked to a particular sound card and sacrifice effects. Now running DJ software + vst would allow timecode AND access to Trakors effect set without needing to add another sound card into the mix. As would running something lightweight like mixxx as your timecode source and routing it. However, the poster is currently trying out Mixxx with his Traktor timecode and is possibly going to splash out on VDJ (unless I'm missing something). Yes Mr Popinjay, its not THE easiest solution, but working with what the poster already had available in his hand and trying it out as opposed to him going out and spending another $300+ on a sound card or software. Hope that all makes sense. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 02.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by deevey
Why would you use torq or VDJ as a VST host? |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 01.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Also the whole point of using Mixxx is that you don't need a certification from NI, in this situation you could never use Traktor timecode! Traktor doesn't fit into the DB4 time code setup at all.
Mixxx will work just fine on his existing $300 controller and his existing Traktor Control Vinyl without ANYTHING additional.
Your other points don't make any sense! I could get a VST setup and a VST host and the Traktor effects for less than the price of Traktor Pro + a DVS. Also I don't believe for a second that traktor is the least resource intensive option out there, it seems to be a resource hog in experience.
And Secondly regarding your pricing...retail traktor A6 is actually cheaper (and you get a nice sound card)..... $380 for VDJ + Traktor 12 VST $340 for Torq + Traktor 12 VST $339 for Traktor Scratch + Amp The point was he wanted to use Traktor DVS without a Native Instruments soundcard (originally) and using the Mixxx routed into traktor was a free workaround. Where it turns out the OP wasn't wholly set on traktor if there was a need to change and was open to other DVS options and mixxx straight up would do the trick from the get go. |
| Xenia Gorin 25.09.2012 | So does anybody have a mapping that is similar to the Reloop mapping this guy uses,
I have an Audio 8 as well so I wanna hook my tables up and do some funky stuff like this cat. Thanks for any info...... |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 09.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by Morderain
http://maps.djranking s.com/mappings/527 Also http://maps.djranking s.com/users/1059 for all the C60 mappings Oh and heads up - Soundcloud players are not allowed in community signatures round here, so I'd remove it before a mod see's it. |
| Verdell Garic 08.08.2012 | Call Gibson and ask them when it's coming out! I have it, but I was given instruction not to share... |
| Deena Jaroszewski 09.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by Youhow2
Btw it very solid, great jog, and seems very resistant (more than my xponent), the button for the hotcues and samples are lil bit small so doing some kind of hot cues juggling maybe it can be difficoult cause they'r very small and near each other, on the other hand the play/cue button are really large and comfortable and the effects sections are very clean and clear. if anybody has got this mapping send it to me and I'll give my impression about this controller with traktor it' I hate virtual dj so I'm not going to install it. |
| Verdell Garic 07.08.2012 | So... Any one else purchase it yet? |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 05.08.2012 | Just sounds like a huge waste of resources to me *shrug* |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 05.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Since then, yes, he's testing Mixxx straight up as he didn't need an advanced effects setup (which we didnt know beforehand, hence the VST or Traktor routing etc that I'd suggested) However he'll still need a VST host to use any decent effects with mixxx, its just as easy to route mixxx into Traktor anyhow on separate channels and retain control over the effects section (IMHO). |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 04.08.2012 | No, you're missing it still. Why not Mixxx + JACK (or soundflower or whatever) a lightweight and free VST rather than Mixxx + Traktor Pro? |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 03.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Now we all know thats not possible without an audio 4/6/8/10 - normally. So his options were ... 1. Running timecode on a separate piece of software and routing into Traktor 2. Buying an Audio4 3. Using a different piece of software altogether that not locked to a particular sound card and sacrifice effects. Now running DJ software + vst would allow timecode AND access to Trakors effect set without needing to add another sound card into the mix. As would running something lightweight like mixxx as your timecode source and routing it. However, the poster is currently trying out Mixxx with his Traktor timecode and is possibly going to splash out on VDJ (unless I'm missing something). Yes Mr Popinjay, its not THE easiest solution, but working with what the poster already had available in his hand and trying it out as opposed to him going out and spending another $300+ on a sound card or software. Hope that all makes sense. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.08.2012 | No, I mean why use VDJ or Torq specifically? You don't need any of the DJ features in this situation so it'd be a very expensive and resource intensive choice for hosting VSTs. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 02.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 02.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by deevey
Why would you use torq or VDJ as a VST host? |
| Ike Hallisey 02.08.2012 | i had tried mixxx out for a sec and did map out the djc.4 to it. i didn't get the results i wanted but that's because im a noob but now i will dig deeper and put more time into figuring out how to use mixxx. again i appreciate everyone's input on different options and ideas of how this set up will work. if i do get this figured out i will share on what i did so if anyone else is trying this they will know what to do. peace. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 01.08.2012 | You don't actually need guitar rig for the same effects as traktor, the user built plugins plus a few free vst's will do that and more and every effect is chained, it is just done a little differently in VDJ... The effect activation order determines the effect signal path, unlike traktor which is determined by the order in a rack. Traktors way is better but more restrictive because you are locked to 4 sets of 3 effects in simple mode. VDJ has unlimited effects at any one time if your CPU can handle it, and if mapped to a controller you don't need to see the effect to use it, it all happens in the background. It's not a fair comparison with Traktor as VDJ can do much more. Serato Scratch with Serato Video is a much closer in functionality, but IMHO VDJ still wins as it has mapping capabilities that beat other software, Can potentially use any controller on the market that uses midi or HID, it allows VST's on PC and is open to user modification as atomix release SDK's for every part of the software. VDJ is still a work in progress but has much more room to move and most importantly users can dictate the direction future development takes, Neither Traktor nor Serato offer that. The only thing that will potentially come close in the future is Mixxx, but that relies on the public implementing new functionality in their spare time. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 01.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Also the whole point of using Mixxx is that you don't need a certification from NI, in this situation you could never use Traktor timecode! Traktor doesn't fit into the DB4 time code setup at all.
Mixxx will work just fine on his existing $300 controller and his existing Traktor Control Vinyl without ANYTHING additional.
Your other points don't make any sense! I could get a VST setup and a VST host and the Traktor effects for less than the price of Traktor Pro + a DVS. Also I don't believe for a second that traktor is the least resource intensive option out there, it seems to be a resource hog in experience.
And Secondly regarding your pricing...retail traktor A6 is actually cheaper (and you get a nice sound card)..... $380 for VDJ + Traktor 12 VST $340 for Torq + Traktor 12 VST $339 for Traktor Scratch + Amp The point was he wanted to use Traktor DVS without a Native Instruments soundcard (originally) and using the Mixxx routed into traktor was a free workaround. Where it turns out the OP wasn't wholly set on traktor if there was a need to change and was open to other DVS options and mixxx straight up would do the trick from the get go. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.08.2012 | I disagree. The Denon certifications were from the last gen. Until denon releases another mixer we don't know anything about NI's stance with denon and certification. Also the whole point of using Mixxx is that you don't need a certification from NI, in this situation you could never use Traktor timecode! Traktor doesn't fit into the DB4 time code setup at all. Your other points don't make any sense! I could get a VST setup and a VST host and the Traktor effects for less than the price of Traktor Pro + a DVS. Also I don't believe for a second that traktor is the least resource intensive option out there, it seems to be a resource hog in experience. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 01.08.2012 | zestoi can help you set up Mixxx, I'm sure he has popped his head in here. Mapping is based on Javascript so easy enough to set up your controller to work. From everything Zestoi has shown me Mixxx will be as good as any other software in a couple of releases as they are working on modular effect chaining, vst support & mapping modifiers. It's pretty basic now but will certainly get the job done. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 01.08.2012 | Seriously dude ... check out Mixxx.org, just run it solo nothing else needed. Its got a nice simple layout, has timecode, its free! and will work with your Traktor Vinyl that your friend gave you .. oh and should work fine with your DJC4 + Turntables and no mixer needed. Did I mention free? Give it a shot, nothing to lose and the price of VDJ to gain |
| Ike Hallisey 01.08.2012 | i see thanks for the info peoples. i was asking because a buddy had bought traktor and it came with 2 extra licenses for backup computers and we have been getting in to djing together so he installed one on my computer (his backup computer) because i was getting two t.55 turntables and the djc.4, and i know this is not an ideal dj set up but i was looking for something to get me going and see if its something i could really get into. so ive been trying to see if what i have would work with all of my vinyls and the 2 traktor vinyls he kicked me down but with all the info ive gotten i believe im just gonna have to save up and get the vdj pro. i haven't really gotten into traktor anyways its just not for me i like the simplicity of vdj but since i have a licensed version of traktor i thought i would keep trying this route. im also going to be on the look out for a cheap used mixer so i can do some manual beat matching and scratching. i do realize i could just transfer my vinyls with the t.55s into digital files and mix that way but im lazy and i like the feel and control of vinyls. enjoy your day everyone |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 01.08.2012 | 2. Effects in guitar rig are automatically chained & you can actually create much more complex mappings/macro's in vdj... The only downside to using guitar rig "traktors 12" is all the effects are in advanced mode "you get more control but have more setup", and you have to set the effects before you start. I only have the demo so can't save effect layouts, but if you had the legit version this wouldn't be a problem. 3. Cpu isn't really that high when using two instances of the VST, but having to use the vst's gui to set everything up is a little hassle. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 01.08.2012 |
I don't see why you would use traktor for that. Why not any other VSt host and just use the NI traktor effects VST?
1. Then you need a piece of DJ software that has first of all VST host compatibility + Timecode (Torq or VDJ perhaps) .. 2. Chaining effects / creating macros like in Traktor is not as easy with a separate VST Effects unit running inside your software. 3. CPU loading is higher once you start running multiple instances of Trakors 12 within your DJ software. 4. Because it means you could get Timecode support without using a cracked version of the software. (assuming you have bought Traktor in the first place). 5. You get all this using a $300 piece of software and no additional soundcards or higher priced version of Traktor needed. Oh and most importantly ......because you can, and we're all about that around here
Except Allen & Heath it seems.
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| Renaldo Chansky 01.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
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| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.08.2012 | The 4D was certified a loooong long time ago. I don't see why you would use traktor for that. Why not any other VSt host and just use the NI traktor effects VST? |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 01.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
You could however route decks in Mixxx for timecode into 2 Traktor channels (with a bit of latency sacrifice) using soundflower or jack and still get the goodness of traktors effects. No harm in trying seeing Mixxx is free anyhow |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 01.08.2012 | Reserved for Pioneer gear at the moment it seems. Not even the DB4 get certification, which is completely nuts in my opinion. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 01.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by johndiz0
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| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 01.08.2012 | nope.... VDJ Pro only, Traktor requires a scratch certified soundcard which the DJC.4 is not and probably never will be, it is a very exclusive club to get into, reserved for high end gear only. |
| Ike Hallisey 01.08.2012 | is it possible to mix vinyls with the djc.4 on traktor? ive been messing around trying to get this to work but havnt been able to so far. i also have traktor control vinyls and tried those as well but no luck. has anyone else tried this? |
| Verdell Garic 31.07.2012 | Yes, the controller is amazing, especially in Traktor, It has SO MUCH POTENTIAL. DJTT needs to do a review on this amazingly under the radar piece of gear. It's great for mixing, Best Piece of gear for the price, Hands down. So many features, So cheap and NO ONE knows about it!!!! The traktor mapping is great btw, could use some small tweaks. I'd love a jog FX mode to control effects. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 20.07.2012 | And the soundcard that Mixvibes bundles and all the gemini mixers. |
| Nadia Shelmadine 20.07.2012 | Seems like Hanpin is one of the biggest DJ manufacturers right now. Super OEM -turntables are made by Hanpin aswell. |
| Marvis Terhaar 20.07.2012 | yes please! I really need it, because the controller is awesome! the store guy said that was totally compatible with traktor but I can't use it yet.. |
| Jacelyn Turkson 17.07.2012 | Good deal! I will be awaiting that |
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