How your traktor Z2 looks after 2 weeks of practicing (aprox 30 hours of use)

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How your traktor Z2 looks after 2 weeks of practicing (aprox 30 hours of use)
Posted on: 22.01.2013 by Mitsuko Hamade
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yeah
i am having this problem, after about 2 weeks of practicing (volume faders were gone after 2 hours)
white letters under every knob (filter,low,...) are mostly down so soon i will have only blank black desk with knobs


do you also have this problem or is it just me and i should go to the store and let them to replace it ?
Kiyoko Wellisch
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by The Twin
They do because of their awesome marketing and niche markets.
More established competitors don't have to as its already known they make solid gear.
Tell that to Pioneer DJ. They seem to be at least 50% marketing department.
Charissa Paganucci
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by botstein
@The Twin NI doesn't do NAMM.
Wasn't there a Traktor van doing promos there?
Charissa Paganucci
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Eh, I'm sure they are making horrendous amounts of money from their hardware :P
They do because of their awesome marketing and niche markets.
More established competitors don't have to as its already known they make solid gear.
Jeromy Bana
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by blackavenger
I know that it's acrylic/plastic on the S2/S4..that's exactly what I said!!!

It's "highly polished aluminum" on the Z2, hence the reason that it's wearing off so quickly.!!!
OOps so you did. I read that wrong..
Jeromy Bana
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by blackavenger
Not to defend NI here, but that center bit is not plastic like on the S2/4. It's made from a "highly polished" aluminum. However, I can't help but be curious about what you said here:
You made me go look...
It is acrylic on the S4. you can see the paint for the faders in under it. that's why they are not having the same issue as the Z2. If you are unsure, notice the line level meters and track indicators are also under the acrylic.

I cant speak for the Z2. I have never actually used one yet.
Shad Rametta
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by johnm
I believe the the plexi on the S4 & Z2 just looks so cheap.. we all know it will scratch up with normal wear and tear.
Not to defend NI here, but that center bit is not plastic like on the S2/4. It's made from a "highly polished" aluminum. However, I can't help but be curious about what you said here:

Originally Posted by johnm
or etch (or carve) it into the plastic and fill in the etching with paint.
I wonder if that would have worked?
Kiyoko Wellisch
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by The Twin
They do because of their awesome marketing and niche markets.
More established competitors don't have to as its already known they make solid gear.
Tell that to Pioneer DJ. They seem to be at least 50% marketing department.
Charissa Paganucci
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by botstein
@The Twin NI doesn't do NAMM.
Wasn't there a Traktor van doing promos there?
Charissa Paganucci
11.02.2013
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Eh, I'm sure they are making horrendous amounts of money from their hardware :P
They do because of their awesome marketing and niche markets.
More established competitors don't have to as its already known they make solid gear.
Ervin Calvery
11.02.2013		@The Twin NI doesn't do NAMM.
Kiyoko Wellisch
11.02.2013		Eh, I'm sure they are making horrendous amounts of money from their hardware :P
Charissa Paganucci
11.02.2013		Anyone else believe it was a rush completion for Namm?
Charissa Paganucci
11.02.2013		I'll put it out there, an stick my neck out ....
N/I should really stick to making killer software, and drop the controller game.
Their s2/s4 is not going to stand the test of time, and thus far the Z2's paint can't even stay on their platforms.

N/I needs to step up their quality control before DJ joe anybody goes and drops their hard earned $$ on these machines.

Stick to Denon,Numark, pioneer and Vestax etc if you want long lasting quality.

I lost faith in N/I controllers long,long, long ago.

Look past the hype people!
Shad Rametta
11.02.2013		Yeah, like I said, there are more than a couple software issues with the Z2 as well.

1.) Latency w' pads for Cue Points, Sample Triggers, etc..
2.) CPU spikes
3.) TT's not being recognized......this is a HUGE bug that has affected lots of peeps!!!
4.) Input/Output routings keep getting lost....Z2 ends up stuck in Internal or External Mode which requires Setup Wizard!!!
5.) Randomly, the lights will flicker and the various controls will behave erratically!!

These, and the previously mentioned hardware issues, are what kept me from purchasing the Z2 at this time.
Now I realize that they will eventually work out these software issues, but honestly, who can afford to
wait while they do? I mean, God forbid any of these issues manifest themselves during a gig! It's fine if you
are rocking it out for your kid's stuffed animal collection at home, and these issues arise....but not in
front of a crowd at a club, rave, bar, etc.. that's unacceptable!!

NI should have charged a couple hundred more, and brought out a truly professional, scratch oriented mixer!
Hopefully, they will learn from these mistakes and bring out a better option for the scratch heads w' a Mark II
Edition, and maybe even a DJM900 killer w' a 12" version.
Kiyoko Wellisch
11.02.2013		Anything else you don't like other than the lack of FX loop (which blows), the stiff faders and crappy deteriorating faceplate?
Shad Rametta
11.02.2013		The Z2 is riddled w' issues, and they aren't just skin deep....though, I really didn't expect it not to be.
This is NI's first attempt at this after all!! I am sure that the Z2 MKII or Z4 will be muuuuuch better mixers.

It's for it's few hardware, and many software issues that I had to pass on getting it. I REALLY wanted it,
but stiff upfaders, really? That was easily my BIGGEST GRIPE on the hardware side of things!! Note to Mixer
Manufacturers....DJs don't need to be coddled like little babies. For decades prior faders had little resistance,
and now for the past few years or so, companies are making them quite stiff as if beginners are incapable
of making precise volume adjustments without them. But I suppose that's a bigger argument for a
different thread.

Anyhoo, I hope this X1600 I just bought ends up being a smart decision.

If anyone at NI reads this......please add Efx Sends/Returns to your next mixer.
Forcing people to remain in the digital ecosphere is both restrictive, and annoying.
Some of us still like analog effects in addition to digital!
Georgie Lukowiak
10.02.2013		was actually considering this for a setup with CDJ's .

Everyone was talking about how solid the build quality is and then I see this !
Well , hopefully the new faceplates are coming soon!
Jeromy Bana
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by blackavenger
I know that it's acrylic/plastic on the S2/S4..that's exactly what I said!!!

It's "highly polished aluminum" on the Z2, hence the reason that it's wearing off so quickly.!!!
OOps so you did. I read that wrong..
Kiyoko Wellisch
10.02.2013		Huh, guess I'm remembering it wrong!
Shad Rametta
10.02.2013		Yeah, the glossy bit in the middle of the S2/4 is plastic...........the glossy bit on the Z2 is polished aluminum.
Or at least the one's I checked out were.
Kiyoko Wellisch
09.02.2013		We're talking about the glossy middle bit, right? It sure wasn't aluminium on the demo unit I played about with.
Shad Rametta
09.02.2013		I know that it's acrylic/plastic on the S2/S4..that's exactly what I said!!!

It's "highly polished aluminum" on the Z2, hence the reason that it's wearing off so quickly.!!!
Jeromy Bana
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by blackavenger
Not to defend NI here, but that center bit is not plastic like on the S2/4. It's made from a "highly polished" aluminum. However, I can't help but be curious about what you said here:
You made me go look...
It is acrylic on the S4. you can see the paint for the faders in under it. that's why they are not having the same issue as the Z2. If you are unsure, notice the line level meters and track indicators are also under the acrylic.

I cant speak for the Z2. I have never actually used one yet.
Shad Rametta
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by johnm
I believe the the plexi on the S4 & Z2 just looks so cheap.. we all know it will scratch up with normal wear and tear.
Not to defend NI here, but that center bit is not plastic like on the S2/4. It's made from a "highly polished" aluminum. However, I can't help but be curious about what you said here:

Originally Posted by johnm
or etch (or carve) it into the plastic and fill in the etching with paint.
I wonder if that would have worked?
Ervin Calvery
09.02.2013		I still don't much mind, but all of my crossfader paint is gone now.
Jeromy Bana
09.02.2013
Originally Posted by Deejaesnafu
i remember when i used to skateboard and there were kids that actually tried to save the graphics on the bottom of the board... we called them posers.
LoL. and you probably rocked a Numark mixer in the 80's to early 90's with all of its graphics worn off (they were were "the" mixers back in the day, but they did start to loose the graphics after about 6 months and blank metal after about a year).

The graphics wear off on pretty much all mixers that are used hard. the concern here is .. it should last more then a few weeks.. not at this price. especially since he is not rail sliding it ...
Kiyoko Wellisch
09.02.2013		I believe the difference there is that no one expect a skateboard's artwork to last that long. A mixer isn't quite the same.
Ada Matzkin
09.02.2013		i remember when i used to skateboard and there were kids that actually tried to save the graphics on the bottom of the board... we called them posers.
Jeromy Bana
07.02.2013		I believe the the plexi on the S4 & Z2 just looks so cheap.. we all know it will scratch up with normal wear and tear.

And NI should know better believeing the silkscreen would stick to plastic. they need to put it "under" the plastic so you can see it though the plastic or etch (or carve) it into the plastic and fill in the etching with paint.
Shan Bauerly
07.02.2013		NI just doesn't care.
Irwin Ney
07.02.2013		What a big fail. How they could not see this happening with test units?

I mean, I'm sure that all those DJs that made those promo videos had more then 30 hours of work to produce and record the routines, right?

This could only happen if the test units were not labeled or didn't had the interchangeable faceplates that we are seeing on the market right now....

Harley Zitka
25.01.2013
Originally Posted by bassgoesmeow
So if I order a Z2 now, will I have the same problem with the faceplate or has this since been corrected?
Maybe. If you do, they will send you a replacement faceplate free of charge when it's available.
Lilliana Perris
25.01.2013		Totally!

Shan Bauerly
25.01.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
Nope, but you can circuit bend most Fischer Price stuff.

Then if you swap out circuit for pitch.....you have pitch bend.

Then...you can ride the pitch around the bend, while saying BAAAA....at this time you hold onto the loop at the end of the string and give it a little tug every 3rd beat. That then makes it gate.

If you hold onto the string, letting it go in slowly....thats the Stretch Effect.

Smash it on the ground...and you have the Hawtin Effect.

Who needs a Z2????
Admittedly, it is a very technique-sensitive bit of kit.
Joya Heiberg
25.01.2013		So if I order a Z2 now, will I have the same problem with the faceplate or has this since been corrected?
Lilliana Perris
25.01.2013
Originally Posted by boarderbas
Can it be midi synchronised to a Maschine?
Nope, but you can circuit bend most Fischer Price stuff.

Then if you swap out circuit for pitch.....you have pitch bend.

Then...you can ride the pitch around the bend, while saying BAAAA....at this time you hold onto the loop at the end of the string and give it a little tug every 3rd beat. That then makes it gate.

If you hold onto the string, letting it go in slowly....thats the Stretch Effect.

Smash it on the ground...and you have the Hawtin Effect.

Who needs a Z2????
Random X
25.01.2013		Resized the image!
Brunilda Kora
25.01.2013		Manual beat matching only.

Strictly for pro's and better.
Evia Nitch
24.01.2013		Can it be midi synchronised to a Maschine?
Brunilda Kora
24.01.2013		Ah, well, when you set the pointer to a sheep, and pull the cord, you'll hear "A sheep says baa-aa"...



Batteries not required.

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