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Future of DJTT and DJing in General Posted on: 16.07.2012 by Lawana Spratlen Ive been a member of DJTT for a few years now. My post count, although no where near some of the members counts is, in my opinion respectable. Ive tried to give help where I can, Ive also upset a few people along the way. Whatever, I suppose we are all keyboard warriors to a certain extent. Some people have been rude and blinkered so Ive done the same back.I joined after buying Traktor and a simple controller after getting back into djing after a good few years break. Coming from a turntable background i thought I'd give controllers a go. I now use scratch and 1210's. My issue is where DJTT is going and if it is having an adverse effect on DJing. Bar the finger drumming routines by the likes of araab music and jeremy ellis, Ive jet to see a routine that plays any good music!!! Its all been hideous. I feel that these routines are turning the art of DJing into a computer game. The new midi fighter 3D is one of the worst gimmicks Ive seen! The recent video of the 11 year old hit the above home to me (not a dig on him by the way, its cool that hes into music at his age). This new form of djing imo sucks and is in danger of killing djing with everyone able to buy a cheap midi controller and a ripped off copy of traktor. I have no issue with sync, its the music choice that sets djs apart. These routines seem to lend themselves to this total SHIT dubstep and electro music which IS shit. people are entitled to there opinions but im sorry, there is not a respected musician in the world that could like it Sorry in advance is I upset some people, but if you like this wobble dubstep/brostep whatever wanky name its got, I dont believe that you have any taste. Again my opinion and I dont mean to upset anyone. Of course this is my opinion. I like the community of DJTT cos it has a couple of good threads and offers some great advice. But the blog, I'm really not keen in the direction its going. I hope people at DJTT don't get offended by this. Its just my 2 cents. What do other people believe? | |
| Random X 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Benjamin Sieh 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
Okay dude, I can see why some of this would piss you off but, who are you to decide whats best. If the crowd likes house music and dubstep I GONNA PLAY HOUSE MUSIC AND DUBSTEP! DJing is evolving, and while it is becoming easy for any joker to sit walk into Guitar center and walk out with a nice little controller, who can argue that its allowing people to explore what they are into. And if you're really worried about those little kids who treat DJing like a computer game then you couldn't possibly be much better than them. I respect your opinion, but i just want to make sure you see the logic you have decided to argue against. If anyone wants to truely become a great DJ then they will need to upgrade from the average little mixtrack pro to something more. IF the crowd wants dubstep and house music, I'd hope you have dubstep and house music. No it is not the music that sets DJs apart, its their skill level that sets them apart. Prime example is right here Dmc champ dj unkut doing drum n bass Dmc champ Dj vajra doing hiphop both equally amazing, different music same skill level. Check your logic before putting hundreds of other people and their styles down sir. Cheers |
| Random X 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
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| Sylvia Greener 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Otacon
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| Random X 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Geri Jarra 17.07.2012 | +1 It's not what you do, it's how you do it |
| Benjamin Sieh 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
Okay dude, I can see why some of this would piss you off but, who are you to decide whats best. If the crowd likes house music and dubstep I GONNA PLAY HOUSE MUSIC AND DUBSTEP! DJing is evolving, and while it is becoming easy for any joker to sit walk into Guitar center and walk out with a nice little controller, who can argue that its allowing people to explore what they are into. And if you're really worried about those little kids who treat DJing like a computer game then you couldn't possibly be much better than them. I respect your opinion, but i just want to make sure you see the logic you have decided to argue against. If anyone wants to truely become a great DJ then they will need to upgrade from the average little mixtrack pro to something more. IF the crowd wants dubstep and house music, I'd hope you have dubstep and house music. No it is not the music that sets DJs apart, its their skill level that sets them apart. Prime example is right here Dmc champ dj unkut doing drum n bass Dmc champ Dj vajra doing hiphop both equally amazing, different music same skill level. Check your logic before putting hundreds of other people and their styles down sir. Cheers |
| Margie Pavell 17.07.2012 | lock please...this is going nowhere...fast... |
| Mendy Folts 17.07.2012 | i haven't read the full thread but dj tech tools is in charge for creating brostep and electro ? I'm afraid to say that Ean Golden as created a blog and a community about digital djiing but he is no god ... he can't decide taste of people. brostep/electro is the nu techstep without the underground fuck it off attitude. you can allready tell what will be the evolution. like techstep it will break into two direction pop sounding stuff like the hospital pendulum road and the underground warrior will go back to productions tricks and produce the nu neurofunk and darkstep. i believe it will happen with 110 bpm dubstep or moobahcore as some called it |
| Random X 17.07.2012 | Enough of the funstuff.. moving this to off topic. |
| Random X 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
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| Lela Umanskaya 17.07.2012 | Yep /thread |
| Sylvia Greener 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Otacon
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| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 | Cock, Dick and knob!! You must have penis on your mind rotebass! Oh matron!! |
| Edwardo Rothenberger 17.07.2012 | IMO, the biggest block to creativity to dance music is this constant naming of styles and genres. I came from the balearic days, and they were great. DJ's playing a 'Garage' track, an 'Acid' track, an old forgotten 'Rare-groove' track. It was fantastic. By this constant naming of the latest dance music styles we are just building walls that block creativity. I got fed up going clubbing in about 1995 because everyone was playing 'their' chosen same style of dance music. You couldn't tell where a track started or ended. Someone mentioned Tony Humphries. Finally a DJ I've heard of (showing my age). He was great. He would play a good mix. Sweet soulful 'Garage' vocals followed by a House dub and then drop in a vibey Techno style track, when many Yanks would just play pure Garage. Once a style gets named, then formula sameness is not far behind. |
| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 | Im a knob now am I? Naughty boy |
| Lela Umanskaya 17.07.2012 | Wait, back the truck up... Now you are trying to tell me that you're NOT a respected musician, I never would have guessed. I thought all musicians were close minded knobs. |
| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 | Never said I was a respected musician, but that they wouldn't like certain genres. Please refrain from calling me names. |
| Lela Umanskaya 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
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| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by rotebass
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| Lela Umanskaya 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
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| Yukiko Beauvil 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by joonmusic
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| Neva Lahr 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Maven
Therefore, as Maven said, just because you enjoy a certain genre, it doesn't make you any more musically better. I was a "better" classical musician than any of those "classical music" people who questioned my taste but I never thought I was "better" than them in an overall sense just because I liked hip hop. It was just a disagreement. |
| Yukiko Beauvil 17.07.2012 | He is entitled to his own opinion. Also what I wrote in my earlier post was giving an example. I do enjoy a lot of different style of music just because I do listen to something a lot doesn't make other genres or people who listen to it have bad taste in music. |
| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 | Even the king of trance Dick van Dyk believes so |
| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Maven
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| Yukiko Beauvil 17.07.2012 | taste is very personal thing. You can not blame someone for enjoying a melodic chord progression instead of a drum driven song. Instead of the taste, I believe there is good and bad music. I am not a huge fan of styles like Techno, dubstep, drum&bass to say but I do like a song that catches my attention in those genres. Because I do like progressive house/trance doesn't make Techno, dubstep or whatever as a bad taste of music in my eyes and obviously ears hehe. |
| Lawana Spratlen 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Maven
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| Yukiko Beauvil 17.07.2012 | What I mean is that, some people do enjoy the type of music that you hear in top 40 list, mostly being hip-hop, pop style. Not because media forces that music into their throat, it is because they enjoy that cheerful, bright mostly written in C major pop sound and they like to DJ that. Just because you enjoy house, hardcore, techno or whatever doesn't make you more musically better or something. In fact, nothing can come to classical music in terms of music. If I would talk with a mindset of most of the people here who rants about genre X is being better than genre Y, then other music styles and genres are completely garbage and can not even come close to classical music. So basically what I am trying to say is, just have fun and listen/dj your music, nobody is forcing you to like that kind of music. keep calm and carry on lol. |
| Devora Chait 17.07.2012 | Top 40 is just a list? A representation of what the masses like. So if someone likes and enjoys top 40 he or she just likes what the masses like. Where does that someone's own taste and style come into play? IMO Music isn't about following the herd it's about passion, emotion, groove, rythm etc. Not which track ranks number one in the top 40. Either way you probably have DJ's who genuinly like the brostep, dubstep or SWHish house but I believe they are damn rare. In a few years when disco (just an example) starts getting popular I believe each and every one of them will be spinning that. |
| Brunilda Kora 17.07.2012 | What if what? Nothing. If a person DOES enjoy it, but doesn't play it, that's almost as bad as playing it specifically to please the crowd when YOU don't like it. With me? I believe I lost myself... |
| Yukiko Beauvil 17.07.2012 | What if someone likes and totally enjoy top40, and loves to spin that? |
| Devora Chait 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Emery
Do you believe anyone gets big that way? If you like commercial music, all the power to you, but it seems most are just following the trend and trying to cash in, which frankly, doesn't work. Your own taste in music and song selection is unique. If you pick tunes based on YOUR taste and style you will stand out from the rest, which is what you want isn't it... No one is going to say "Wow dude that guy was rockin the crowd, what was that track hes playing again? Oh, levels by avicii? cool!" No offense but how are you any better then paris hilton if your just spinning whats populair again and again instead of inventing something new/your own style. |
| Lawana Spratlen 18.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shane Says
Like I said in the OP, It seems like both the blog and the community are on the turn from respectable DJ site to something else |
| Geri Jarra 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
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| Salvatore Husley 17.07.2012 | Hence the use of the word I. Often followed by the word believe. |
| Yukiko Beauvil 17.07.2012 | Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. Marcus Aurelius |
| Salvatore Husley 17.07.2012 | BFLY - although I disagree with your approach, I feel you on this. I pretty much ignore most threads nowadays. But I haven't felt like it has gotten so bad that I want to leave. I still get some good news, tips, trouble shooting help, and on a rare occasion a good conversation on this community . But it hasn't really progressed from when I have joined including the months of lurking before joining. I find that as time goes on I find his community less appealing. I believe it's a good place to start but a lot of respectable djs that were once on this community have left. |
| Lashay Walchak 17.07.2012 | I'm on the brink of acting like a nice guy to do good old fashion DJ battles with some of the local hacks and maybe a promoter. The problem is I'd probably lose 'cuz some ass-hat will drop *insert corny song/artist any decent well respecting DJ knows shouldn't be played (especially in a "battle" format)* and the tweens will go nuts. Maybe I could outline some rules to "keep the punters out"? haha |
| Romelia Stankard 17.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by TCMuc
edit: found it, not quite as dumb as a lot of stuff that gets blogged there |
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