Hardwell DJ set at Ultra! or was he actually DJ'ing. Hardwell, the most recent winner of the IDMA for best european DJ and best remixer, posted a pic by rukes today on his instagram, facebook, and twitter accounts. The first thing I noticed was that 3 out of 4 decks are completely visible and show absolutely no tracks loaded in them. The time of the picture looks about 3/4s of the way through his set because of the low sunlight and if you watched the video of his set it was sunny for the first 40 minutes or so. Any CDJ owner knows that the decks only look the way they do in the pic when you power on the player or eject the source of your music whether it be CD, USB, SD, or Link. And there is no reason to do any of the in the middle of a set at Ultra Music Festival. Basically, I believe he premixed his set which is disappointing considering the awards he has just won. However, I still respect him as a Producer/DJ and dont want to take away from his reputation but I just wish he would have put more effort into a set like Ultra because I know everyone on this community
would kill for a spot on that stage and we would do it the right way mixing live on the spot.
Heres the pic and Link:
http://photo.rukes.com/umf13b/slides/umf13b_096.html
Let me know what you guys believe. |
Joesph Kasian
07.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by GermanSkater
Ok, just to end this discussion, it was NOT a pre-coded set.
If you guys would check his broadcast (
) at 55:15, this is the moment when the picture was taken.
Left arm with spreaded hand in the air, right arm at the djm, evening
sky, green light at crowd and blue led (can be seen a few secs later) in the sky.
So, let's see. it was 'Get Loose' (Tiesto Remix) by Noisecontrollers.
You guys notice something? Yes, it was his LAST song, so that is the reason why all visible CDJ's on the picture have no track loaded.
So stop calling him a cheater or liar or what else.
He IS one of the top DJ's in the world. Or do you believe the jury of IDMA would give him his awards if he would play a pre-coded set?
Have a nice day, and stop hating.
You just owned every. single. little. mug. on this site....great work mate.
Anyone who posted negative comments about this wind your necks in and worry about your own lives.
Mods, lock this thread. |
Lorine Glans
07.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by joshimoto
Hardwell, the most recent winner of the IDMA for best european DJ and best remixer, posted a pic by rukes today on his instagram, facebook, and twitter accounts. The first thing I noticed was that 3 out of 4 decks are completely visible and show absolutely no tracks loaded in them. The time of the picture looks about 3/4s of the way through his set because of the low sunlight and if you watched the video of his set it was sunny for the first 40 minutes or so. Any CDJ owner knows that the decks only look the way they do in the pic when you power on the player or eject the source of your music whether it be CD, USB, SD, or Link. And there is no reason to do any of the in the middle of a set at Ultra Music Festival. Basically, I believe he premixed his set which is disappointing considering the awards he has just won. However, I still respect him as a Producer/DJ and dont want to take away from his reputation but I just wish he would have put more effort into a set like Ultra because I know everyone on this community
would kill for a spot on that stage and we would do it the right way mixing live on the spot.
Heres the pic and Link:
http://photo.rukes.com/umf13b/slides/umf13b_096.html
Attachment 16504
Let me know what you guys believe.
Ok, just to end this discussion, it was NOT a pre-coded set.
If you guys would check his broadcast (
) at 55:15, this is the moment when the picture was taken.
Left arm with spreaded hand in the air, right arm at the djm, evening
sky, green light at crowd and blue led (can be seen a few secs later) in the sky.
So, let's see. it was 'Get Loose' (Tiesto Remix) by Noisecontrollers.
You guys notice something? Yes, it was his LAST song, so that is the reason why all visible CDJ's on the picture have no track loaded.
So stop calling him a cheater or liar or what else.
He IS one of the top DJ's in the world. Or do you believe the jury of IDMA would give him his awards if he would play a pre-coded set?
Have a nice day, and stop hating. |
Ngan Shannon
31.05.2013 | Y waste ur money on em??
I don't care how good they are whether they're the best live dj or not. U waste money on their cds and you waste more to hear them play top hits. I've been to some and its a disappointment. The live bands seems to be better. ... |
Marla Ballan
31.05.2013 | why don't they use cdj dummys, if they only use one cdj :P |
Bryon Taglieri
30.05.2013 | The only thing I could tell from that Clip is that his music is truly awful. |
Doreen Schurle
23.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
This has become a bit of a hate thread here.
Probably shouldn't have played a prerecorded set then should he? :-\ |
Joesph Kasian
23.05.2013 | It is hilarious that you believe he deletes his own comments - even low-income artists have people who run their facebook pages and are instructed to delete or hide comments which reflect badly on the artist. Hardwell won't even know the comment ever existed.
This has become a bit of a hate thread here. |
Brunilda Gamez
22.05.2013 | I dont understand how he did the spinbacks then. |
Emelina Paglia
15.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by joshimoto
Nah dude I see 3. see that circle in the middle of the the cdj to the immediate left of Hardwell, that circle only looks like that when no media source is loaded to the player. And no you don't see him looping out a track and bringing in a new track, all you see is him pushing buttons, twisting knobs, and moving faders, a baby could do that. On top of that why would he go out of his way to delete a comment of some random person calling him out on it on Facebook? If it wasn't true and possibly detrimental to his reputation why delete it.? On a side note, if your getting the indication that I hate Hardwell, I don't. I'm just telling people what I saw and making it known. I still have mad respect for Hardwell as both a producer and dj. He is good at both and his ultra set was amazing to listen to no doubt, but if he did it live I would probably have labeled him as a god lol.
I'm aware of how CDJs work. Like I said, you clearly see him looping a song on the mixer on his left and then while it's looping you hear him bringing in another track. I guess he is pretending to loop is also. Maybe it's the last song of his set so no songs are loaded or just nothing is loaded... Honestly, I don't care if you like him or not. You can have your opinion, just be open minded a bit. From 1 picture you're quick to judge and because he deleted a comment on facebook. Maybe the guy that commented it deleted his own comment, or his manager told him to delete it so it doesn't start rumors. Anyways, I don't care anymore. Too close minded to admit you could be wrong so there's no point. |
Suzi Werrell
15.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by robbyluca
You only see 2 out of the 4 CDJs and progressive house DJs only use 2 CDJs. In the video you seem him looping out a track and bringing a new track in...
Nah dude I see 3. see that circle in the middle of the the cdj to the immediate left of Hardwell, that circle only looks like that when no media source is loaded to the player. And no you don't see him looping out a track and bringing in a new track, all you see is him pushing buttons, twisting knobs, and moving faders, a baby could do that. On top of that why would he go out of his way to delete a comment of some random person calling him out on it on Facebook? If it wasn't true and possibly detrimental to his reputation why delete it.? On a side note, if your getting the indication that I hate Hardwell, I don't. I'm just telling people what I saw and making it known. I still have mad respect for Hardwell as both a producer and dj. He is good at both and his ultra set was amazing to listen to no doubt, but if he did it live I would probably have labeled him as a god lol. |
Suzi Werrell
15.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by robbyluca
You only see 2 out of the 4 CDJs and progressive house DJs only use 2 CDJs. In the video you seem him looping out a track and bringing a new track in...
Nah dude I see 3. see that circle in the middle of the the cdj to the immediate left of Hardwell, that circle only looks like that when no media source is loaded to the player. |
Emelina Paglia
15.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by joshimoto
... I've shown proof... You obviously didn't read any of the posts on the first page. The picture Rukes took about 1/2-3/4 thru Hardwells set. I know this because the sun was completely out when he started playing and in the pic the sun is setting. Also in the picture the 3 cdjs have no tracks loaded in them and you can't correctly dj with cdjs with only one deck. The only time a cdj shows no track loaded is when it has just started up and no media source has been loaded or the media source was ejected. Now why would you not load or eject the media source halfway through your set? Please explain to me how there is no proof now
You only see 2 out of the 4 CDJs and progressive house DJs only use 2 CDJs. In the video you seem him looping out a track and bringing a new track in... |
Doreen Schurle
14.05.2013 | ^^^ This. Or just watch the bloody video. It's very, very obvious even to the untrained eye. |
Suzi Werrell
14.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by robbyluca
FYI, I dislike Hardwell, but there's no proof that he isn't DJing and I won't believe it 'til I see it and who cares honestly what he's doing up there. It works.
... I've shown proof... You obviously didn't read any of the posts on the first page. The picture Rukes took about 1/2-3/4 thru Hardwells set. I know this because the sun was completely out when he started playing and in the pic the sun is setting. Also in the picture the 3 cdjs have no tracks loaded in them and you can't correctly dj with cdjs with only one deck. The only time a cdj shows no track loaded is when it has just started up and no media source has been loaded or the media source was ejected. Now why would you not load or eject the media source halfway through your set? Please explain to me how there is no proof now |
Emelina Paglia
14.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by JZed
It's pretty surprising to see people just refuse to admit their beloved DJ/Producers often take the easy way out when it comes to live performance. Oh well.
FYI, I dislike Hardwell, but there's no proof that he isn't DJing and I won't believe it 'til I see it and who cares honestly what he's doing up there. It works. |
Sherrell Dargenio
14.05.2013 | It's pretty surprising to see people just refuse to admit their beloved DJ/Producers often take the easy way out when it comes to live performance. Oh well. |
Joesph Kasian
13.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJBife
Just an update: Hardwell came to Portugal yesterday for "Queima de Coimbra". He wasn't playing live. A friend of mine put himself standing up on the front fence and yelling "I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING!"
Then the most amazing thing happened: Hardwell just got off the decks, came in front of the crowd and laughed with his hands up and stuff. Guess what: While he was away from CDJ's, a transition of songs happened. LOL
Guess what: you're full of shit. So supply proof or stop slandering DJs. |
Augustine Mitzen
12.05.2013 | lol, what a wasteman |
Nedra Fresneda
12.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJBife
While he was away from CDJ's, a transition of songs happened. LOL
That's the latest Seraktor feature. You mix with a fist pumping gesture, it will analyse how hard you do it and chose a matching banger. |
Emelina Paglia
09.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by joshimoto
Where did you see him looping exactly? because Ultras camera crew never focused on the dj for very long at anytime over the 2 weekends because their focus was the party as a whole not the technicality of the djs. And yes they would put a prerecorded set on live stream because of what I previously stated and because when you go to see Hardwell your not necessarily there to see his dj skills, but more just to appreciate his music and talent as a producer. And if he isn't perfect the quick transitions he made would be very difficult for him to do as "perfectly" as he did and mistakes would be much easier to catch.
Towards the end of the video. If they don't focus on his mixing then why is everyone saying how "you don't see him on the CDJs once all evening
" ...if you watch, you will see him a couple of times. They don't focus on his mixing so you can't really judge and when you do this for a living 4 times a week and are paid millions it's practice makes perfect. His set wasn't that perfect, and fast transitions are easier. Longer transition = more room for error. If you know your music it ain't hard to mix fast, especially house music which is pretty much all the same pattern. |
Emelina Paglia
09.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJBife
Just an update: Hardwell came to Portugal yesterday for "Queima de Coimbra". He wasn't playing live. A friend of mine put himself standing up on the front fence and yelling "I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING!"
Then the most amazing thing happened: Hardwell just got off the decks, came in front of the crowd and laughed with his hands up and stuff. Guess what: While he was away from CDJ's, a transition of songs happened. LOL
Why would your friend go watch him? His story will be a bit bias, so I don't really believe this story because no DJ is that stupid to do that. Maybe it was a mashup. |
Suzi Werrell
09.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by jakeintox
For as much Hardwell-bashing as is going on here, you guys sure seem to spend a lot of time actually watching him...
I still have mad respect for the dude. He does have great song selection in my opinion whether it's prerecorded or not. I just would appreciate it if he just went the extra mile to do a live set when he played at ultra. He's also a great producer. |
Ethel Feigum
09.05.2013 | For as much Hardwell-bashing as is going on here, you guys sure seem to spend a lot of time actually watching him... |
Doreen Schurle
10.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJBife
Just an update: Hardwell came to Portugal yesterday for "Queima de Coimbra". He wasn't playing live. A friend of mine put himself standing up on the front fence and yelling "I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING!"
Then the most amazing thing happened: Hardwell just got off the decks, came in front of the crowd and laughed with his hands up and stuff. Guess what: While he was away from CDJ's, a transition of songs happened. LOL
Ahahahahahaha that's brilliant |
Leon Albornoz
09.05.2013 | Just an update: Hardwell came to Portugal yesterday for "Queima de Coimbra". He wasn't playing live. A friend of mine put himself standing up on the front fence and yelling "I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MIXING!"
Then the most amazing thing happened: Hardwell just got off the decks, came in front of the crowd and laughed with his hands up and stuff. Guess what: While he was away from CDJ's, a transition of songs happened. LOL |
Suzi Werrell
09.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by robbyluca
How is it prerecorded when you see him looping the end of a track and bringing in a new track?
You believe they would have so many cameras and air it live if it was prerecorded?
Also, he isn't perfect... but he just transitions really fast so it's harder to catch mistakes.
Where did you see him looping exactly? because Ultras camera crew never focused on the dj for very long at anytime over the 2 weekends because their focus was the party as a whole not the technicality of the djs. And yes they would put a prerecorded set on live stream because of what I previously stated and because when you go to see Hardwell your not necessarily there to see his dj skills, but more just to appreciate his music and talent as a producer. And if he isn't perfect the quick transitions he made would be very difficult for him to do as "perfectly" as he did and mistakes would be much easier to catch. |
Emelina Paglia
09.05.2013 | How is it prerecorded when you see him looping the end of a track and bringing in a new track?
You believe they would have so many cameras and air it live if it was prerecorded?
Also, he isn't perfect... but he just transitions really fast so it's harder to catch mistakes. |
Valeri Holderness
09.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Update: He deleted the comment :P
WOOOOOOOW, what a guy |
Cammy Hirman
05.05.2013 | They don't, they play pre-recorded sets. |
Augustine Mitzen
04.05.2013 | silence that speaks volumes |
Suzi Werrell
03.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Update: He deleted the comment :P
haha that has guilty written all over it! he deleted my brothers comment(asking why 3 out of 4 decks had no tracks loaded) as well and even blocked my brother from commenting on his photos again. my brothers comment wasnt even accusing him of playing a prerecorded set, just a simple question about the cdjs. |
Doreen Schurle
03.05.2013 | Update: He deleted the comment :P |
Suzi Werrell
03.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
hahahahah |
Anh Pagliuco
01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
That's what I thought at first, then I watched the entire set. He doesn't touch ANY of the CDJs during the entire "performance". He just dances around on stage like an asshole.
Maybe that was his performance. |
Doreen Schurle
01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by scattrrbrain
Maybe he was in the middle of dropping said mad remixes into the CD-J's themselves. I like to give the benefit of the doubt on these things (kinda like the justice pic) that the artists are credible.
After all, over half of the "mixes" people REALLY like -now a days- are produced in Ableton or the DAW like to give them more of a "cutting edge". I'm sure most of the ideas hit the mind when working on the tables, but the shear amount of creativity involved is still there with the automation stuff. Think of it like producing a "mix" instead of a track.
That's what I thought at first, then I watched the entire set. He doesn't touch ANY of the CDJs during the entire "performance". He just dances around on stage like an asshole. |
Anh Pagliuco
01.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by joshimoto
Hardwell, the most recent winner of the IDMA for best european DJ and best remixer, posted a pic by rukes today on his instagram, facebook, and twitter accounts. The first thing I noticed was that 3 out of 4 decks are completely visible and show absolutely no tracks loaded in them. The time of the picture looks about 3/4s of the way through his set because of the low sunlight and if you watched the video of his set it was sunny for the first 40 minutes or so. Any CDJ owner knows that the decks only look the way they do in the pic when you power on the player or eject the source of your music whether it be CD, USB, SD, or Link. And there is no reason to do any of the in the middle of a set at Ultra Music Festival. Basically, I believe he premixed his set which is disappointing considering the awards he has just won. However, I still respect him as a Producer/DJ and dont want to take away from his reputation but I just wish he would have put more effort into a set like Ultra because I know everyone on this community
would kill for a spot on that stage and we would do it the right way mixing live on the spot.
Heres the pic and Link:
http://photo.rukes.com/umf13b/slides/umf13b_096.html
Attachment 16504
Let me know what you guys believe.
Maybe he was in the middle of dropping said mad remixes into the CD-J's themselves. I like to give the benefit of the doubt on these things (kinda like the justice pic) that the artists are credible.
After all, over half of the "mixes" people REALLY like -now a days- are produced in Ableton or the DAW like to give them more of a "cutting edge". I'm sure most of the ideas hit the mind when working on the tables, but the shear amount of creativity involved is still there with the automation stuff. Think of it like producing a "mix" instead of a track. |
Doreen Schurle
01.05.2013 | |
Valeri Holderness
12.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by johney
or they dont have a skill to pull a decent set and it actually matters
touche |
Trula Willadsen
11.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
PA failure. If you listen carefully you can hear that the music is still playing on the stage monitors. That's the fault of the organizers, not the DJ.
You didn't hear me blame Afrojack now did you? Just wanted to show the other side of the rigged DJ's --> no matter how you play your set, if the main PA quits you you'll have a problem |
Augustine Mitzen
11.04.2013 | or they dont have a skill to pull a decent set and it actually matters |
