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Need Advice Choosing Setup!
Posted on: 09.04.2013 by Anabel Sanderfoot
So if spent hours amongst endless hours within the past week trying to figure out what controllers i want to use.

Im down to

two x1s

and i want to add an Ipad with the Traktor Dj App

I need advise on what Mixer i would need

Audio Interface i would need.

And Other Equipment I would need to Buy to get the setup going
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013		So basically so everyone knows i started this thread cause ill have 800$ Friday to either purchase an all in one controller or go modular
Alot of pros and cons for both sides.

I want to get a set up together that also allows room to add an ipad on the side in the future.
Towanda Roads
10.04.2013		Get a Xone K:2 or wait for the MM-1 but the xone will give you a 4-channel soundcard and has dedicated pages that you can add anything very easily. I use a launchpad and a K-2 to do everything in traktor except for key control need to figure out what page I want that on haha. This type of setup would allow you to run everything on usb only. Its nice only have to plug in a comp charger.
Kellie Myrum
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SeanB
The CMD Studio 4a doesnt allow you to input anything though.
Didn't you said about already having an external audio interface?
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
It's really easy to get into gear lust and forget why you started playing music in the first place.
I KNOW
Tommy Thiner
10.04.2013		SeanB check you private messages I sent you one I want ya to check out
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
SeanB,
I'd suggest you to get yourself an S2 or wait a bit more for CMD studio 4A.
The CMD Studio 4a doesnt allow you to input anything though.
Sonja Roybal
10.04.2013		The Traktor DJ app doesn't support Midi yet. So basically, it's best for track prep. You can integrate it into your setup, but it's too early to worry about building around it. Like others have said, get an S2 and learn how to mix. It's really easy to get into gear lust and forget why you started playing music in the first place.
Tommy Thiner
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by likeberty
I suggest you to get the controller that can be used as a stand-alone mixer, such as VCI-400, DDJ-SX, and etc...., to use it with your laptop.

In the future, if you want to add iPad to your setup, or even use it as your only device, you can just plug it to your controller and use it as a mixer. Traktor DJ can be split to 2-channel via splitter cable (mono) or A6, A10 (stereo).
Dude doesn't need to be forking out the cash on a vci-400 or ddj-sx right now with him just learning the basics
Kellie Myrum
11.04.2013		SeanB,

Didn't knew you already made this thread. I'd suggest you to get yourself an S2 or wait a bit more for CMD studio 4A. If you want to keep it simple then xoneK2 would be right choice for starting out and learning basics... You can always add new gear from there and keep K2 for effects or mixer.
Gaynell Rydberg
11.04.2013		Yes. I'm almost 100% sure that you still aren't understanding why you're buying the sound card though.

Go over NI's website and read their product descriptions and manuals for the sound cards.
Anabel Sanderfoot
11.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
If you already have a Focusrite scarlett 2i2, why are you buying another sound card...

You really need to read more about the gear and what it does..
so the Focusrite scarlett 2i2 works the same way a Ni Audio 2 would right?
Gaynell Rydberg
11.04.2013		If you already have a Focusrite scarlett 2i2, why are you buying another sound card...

You really need to read more about the gear and what it does..
Anabel Sanderfoot
11.04.2013		Anyways Im believeing im going to get an audio 2, and an external mixer for mic and "master output" i believe its called.

So say i didn't have an external mixer. what would i use for mic?

I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB Interface
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013		IT can though if it has a sound card correct? - still lil confused there

For the main part it just inputs and outputs with flexibility of different cables and cords
Alphonso Deitchman
10.04.2013		Audio interfaces do not "increase quality of sound".
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I don't believe you understand how audio cards work... did you even look at the link jakeintox posted?
I did. What is it i dont understand about audio interfaces? You plug a device that inputs sound, the audio interface "increases the quality of the sound" while allowing you to output with the correct chords[RCA Cable] into a mixer or straight to the pa system.
Gaynell Rydberg
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SeanB
So i can plug in another device in the future just in case. Hey i see bmwnutfrombirth is selling an Audio 4. you believe i should check it out?
I don't believe you understand how audio cards work... did you even look at the link jakeintox posted?
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
An NI Audio 2 is only 100 dollars new... like 60-70 dollars used...

Is there a reason why you want 2 in or it just because you want it.
So i can plug in another device in the future just in case. Hey i see bmwnutfrombirth is selling an Audio 4. you believe i should check it out?
Gaynell Rydberg
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SeanB
kinda pricey, i dont know im just trying to cheap it out on the audio interface side i guess. but want 2in 2 out at least.

Any suggestions other than NI
I was looking at mixers with sound cards to
An NI Audio 2 is only 100 dollars new... like 60-70 dollars used...

Is there a reason why you want 2 in or it just because you want it.
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I'd really suggest sticking with Native Instruments or one of the popular companies for a sound card....

Why are you so against the NI Audio cards?
kinda pricey, i dont know im just trying to cheap it out on the audio interface side i guess. but want 2in 2 out at least.

Any suggestions other than NI
I was looking at mixers with sound cards to
Gaynell Rydberg
10.04.2013		I'd really suggest sticking with Native Instruments or one of the popular companies for a sound card....

Why are you so against the NI Audio cards?
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013		Anyone know much about the DJ-Tech Soundbox Pro - USB Audio Interface ?

It has 4 in 4 out. looks really useful

Im looking for a 4in/4out audio interface for a good price

also the Mixvibes UMIX44 4in / 4out USB Sound Card?
Hayden Raugh
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SeanB
So just to clear it up i can

connect an ipad running traktor dj or touch osc to my laptop while running traktor pro

connect x1 to laptop

buy an Ni Audio 2 for Audio interface correct?
NO!

You really need to learn about the things your wanting to get... Also i have a ipad with traktor dj, i dnt really use it apart from track preperation and wen i am on the train etc....

you need to learn how to dj before you go get all of these things to wow your mates!

youve just said that you believe a VCI-400 is to 'pricey' for you, especially if you decide to not use it 'in a year or two', but you want to buy a ipad for a app which in my opinion dosent do much compared to the full version of traktor????

Get a controller and learn how to dj, see if u even like it.

cos at the moment it seems like u have no idea.... Also just a x1 by itself is going to be tricky.... the out of the box mappins dnt have EQ, or Fader instructions....
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013		Thnx
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013		To be perfectly honest (and not trying to confuse you more) I believe your best bet is to get something like a mixtrack pro, or an NI S2 or S4 and learn the basics. All you have to do is plug in and go. Learn to mix on basic gear, and once you've mastered that, figure out where to go from there.
Gaynell Rydberg
10.04.2013		If all you want to do is run the X1, then just buy an NI Audio 2 and go have some fun.
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Seriously though. Stop worrying about future purchases. Just pick up the X1 and see if you like DJing in the first place. Just buy it and start mixing!
I was in Best Buy for 4 hours straight playing on the Ns6 the other week. I play with my launchpad quite a bit

Never stayed inside a store more then 2 hours
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013		Touch osc will turn your ipad into a midi controller, like the x1, so you'd plug it in and use it to control the software. Traktor dj is it's own dj software, and won't work with the Traktor running on your laptop (I really believe you need to get the idea of running traktor dj on ipad alongside Traktor on your laptop out of your head, at least for now.)

If you're not using another controller/mixer with a built in soundcard, you'll need the Audio 2.
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013		So just to clear it up i can

connect an ipad running traktor dj or touch osc to my laptop while running traktor pro

connect x1 to laptop

buy an Ni Audio 2 for Audio interface correct?
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Seriously though. Stop worrying about future purchases. Just pick up the X1 and see if you like DJing in the first place. Just buy it and start mixing!
This!
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013		I actually use an ipad as a mixing board for live sound, gotta say I prefer a hardware mixer... much fewer mistakes/ accidental button pushing on actual hardware. And then there's glare...
Gaynell Rydberg
10.04.2013		Seriously though. Stop worrying about future purchases. Just pick up the X1 and see if you like DJing in the first place. Just buy it and start mixing!

I still don't believe you understand what the mixer and audio card do since you're asking about the NI audio 2 if you pick up an all in one controller.

All in one controllers have the sound card built in.
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by jakeintox
Nope, there's a soundcard built in to most of those. If you like cue juggling the vci-400 might be a good choice for you, lots of buttons!
I know but ill need to buy software, not as portable all the time, and a bit on the expensive side for me, especially if i end up not wanting to use it within the next year or two. still nice though
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013		And not too sure about that, don't use it myself. Someone else?

not as big of a deal if you get a controller with enough buttons...
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013		Nope, there's a soundcard built in to most of those. If you like cue juggling the vci-400 might be a good choice for you, lots of buttons!
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by jakeintox
To the laptop. The ipad is just used as a midi controller.
How sure are you about that. I believe i was told the ipad wouldn't connect/work to the laptop while using traktor pro or something?
Anabel Sanderfoot
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by likeberty
I suggest you to get the controller that can be used as a stand-alone mixer, such as VCI-400, DDJ-SX, and etc...., to use it with your laptop.
You know that's really is starting to sound good.

I kind of wanted jog wheels they enough buttons, makes mixer/ audio interface problem much easier, and if your saying i can plug an ipad into it thats sounds even better.

Would i still need an NI Audio 2?
Ethel Feigum
10.04.2013		To the laptop. The ipad is just used as a midi controller.
Anabel Sanderfoot
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by jakeintox
You could use the ipad as a midi controller for decks 3 and 4 using touch osc or similar app. I really believe you're barking up the wrong tree trying to use the traktor dj app alongside your laptop.
Ok if i use touch osc for decks 3 and 4 would i connect the ipad to my windows laptop? or run it separately into another external channel?
Eva Scuderi
09.04.2013		I suggest you to get the controller that can be used as a stand-alone mixer, such as VCI-400, DDJ-SX, and etc...., to use it with your laptop.

In the future, if you want to add iPad to your setup, or even use it as your only device, you can just plug it to your controller and use it as a mixer. Traktor DJ can be split to 2-channel via splitter cable (mono) or A6, A10 (stereo).

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