DJM-T1 or Z2?
DJM-T1 or Z2? | |
| Jerica Salava 30.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by protocol
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| Toya Spor 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
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| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by protocol
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| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
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| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Alphonso Deitchman 29.05.2013 | The T1 is |
| Charise Terro 28.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Lizabeth Peight 21.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by sobi
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| Keturah Wasco 22.07.2013 | I ordered Z2 but immediately changed to T1 for some reasons below. Only reason I bought Z2 was it has Flux mode when T1 doesn't have flux mode. but I found out that Pioneer released new firmware version and it now supports Flux mode and 8 hotques instead of 4 which is more benefit. T1 looks better than Z2, Z2 looks completely plastic without power on (Z2 needs those LED to look better). T1 has every (three) effect knobs as S4 or X1, Z2 has only 1 FX knob to control. I had S4 before but as many users have same experience with those little buttons(those little circle button located on FX and center of the mixer) won't work after few months usage(annoying malfunction!). unfortunately Z2 has those buttons again.. Z2's unique features, As far as I know, Z2 has a Filter knob, T1 doesn't have it. but since I use FXs instead filter knob it was useless for me since S4(I barely used it). Z2 has Innofader(I want it so bad), T1 doesn't (has cheap xfader but still works great) but bad thing about the Z2 mixer is that after couple of times of scratching, the paints where the fader will fading off(poorly painted or printed). I'm still big fan of NI. but I vote for Pioneer DJM-T1 w/ NI engine inside. Sorry for my English :P |
| Jerica Salava 30.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by protocol
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| Toya Spor 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
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| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by protocol
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| Toya Spor 29.05.2013 | I'm using a Z2 now with two SL-1210s and it's great. I was going to go for a DJM-T1 but the lack of filter knobs made me reconsider. Things I like about it: - The faders feel great. The crossfader is really loose and definitely tailored to a turntablist. - It has crossfader curve adjust and reverse right in front. It's tough to grab ahold of the curve adjust unless you use your fingertips/fingernails, which I love because it's tough to throw off by accident. - Looping and beatjumping is easy and fast, especially with the LEDs to show the size so you don't have to stare at your laptop screen (a huge pet peeve of mine). - It stands level with SL-1210s. This is no different than many other mixers, but I like it nonetheless. - The knobs are rubbery, smooth and easy to grab. I've never tried Chroma Caps but I'm tempted to add some. Things I don't like about it: - It has plastic pots holding the knobs on. They're pretty sturdy, and I'm pretty gentle with it, but if you go hard with it, they're going to flex and maybe snap if you're reckless/drunk. - The little plastic buttons are the same ones as the Traktor S4. My buddy's S4 browse button, which gets pressed hard a lot ended up malfunctioning and I'm hoping the same won't happen with my Z2. IMO this shouldn't happen with a simple button. |
| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
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| Xenia Gorin 30.05.2013 | What did people do before filters, smh....... |
| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Alphonso Deitchman 29.05.2013 | It has 2 extra FX knobs per deck over the Z2, which can of course be used for filters in Traktor. |
| Jerica Salava 29.05.2013 | No filters on the DJM-T1? Wow! Z2 all the way. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 29.05.2013 | The T1 is |
| Charise Terro 28.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Ulysses Okelly 28.05.2013 | i went for the t1, and the crossfader isn't right, not sure whether to fix it or take it back and try swap it for a z2 |
| Lizabeth Peight 21.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by sobi
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| Lizabeth Peight 21.05.2013 | I prefer the NUmark as it doesnt have slider volumes for each channel (something less to bother about), and it has RCA outs not 1/4. I'm believeing of getting the T1 to go with an old pair of CDJ-400s in the loft (attic), which havent been used in years, but the new HID support looks excellent I have to say!! The reason for the OP to get a soundcard and a cheap mixer to practice on at home is that should he get gigs anywhere he wont be taking a mixer with him will he, but with a soundcard he can go straight into two channels of the venues mixer.... I rally cant be bothered setting up timecode anymore, and i dont like having to use the laptop to search for and select tracks, this is why HID on the 400/900/2000s is really sweet.Create an aggregate device with the two players and output sound to the mixer as normal as they have soundcards built in!! |
| Darren Teboe 21.05.2013 | It's a bit superficial, but if the cosmetics matter to you, I've heard that the Z2's faceplate not holding up well to wear and tear. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 20.05.2013 | The only advantage of the DJ IO is the microphone input, if that's worth spending an extra $80 to you. |
| Ulysses Okelly 20.05.2013 | so as you wouldn't get an audio 2, you now be looking at: 2 channel mixer (djm250 for the sake of this example) $198 dj io $139 (same price as audio2) traktor pro $80 starting to get closer to the djmt1 package price, and the t1 comes with control cd/vinyl. Atleast its selling at a much more reasonable price now, the original $2k price tag was a huge rip off |
| Kristofer Krauel 20.05.2013 | -4/5db isn't what I'd call ENORMOUS either. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 20.05.2013 | The Audio 2 puts out the same sort of levels as the NI Audio 4 and the Pioneer CDJ 2000, both of which do not have a volume dial. Plenty of setups use these devices without issues with gain. I don't see how saying the Audio 2 does not clip makes me a pedant. |
| Lizabeth Peight 20.05.2013 | Its Monday morning, if you really want to be such a pedant that's fine, but for those in the back row....... The Audio 2 puts out such a strong signal that I found it often overloads a mixer channel to the point that gain has to be ENORMOUSLY reduced on the mixer, which I do not like to do, and so had to 'guestimate' how much i was turning down both channels on the Audio 2 as there are no numbers on the volume dial. In my SOOOOOO VERRRRRRRY HUUUUUUUUMBLE opinion, the NUMARK DJ|IO is more stgraighforward than this. Makar1 seems to feel differently and God bless him and all who sail in him for it. I do not care either way, I am simply lettting you know my personal experience rather than trolling other people's comments. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 20.05.2013 | Having to turn gain down is very different to clipping. The Audio 2 does put out a strong signal with the dials at full. |
| Lizabeth Peight 20.05.2013 | From personal experience I found that sometimes going into different mixers (when in external mixer mode going into line-in mixer inputs) they overloaded the mixer channel meaning that either the gain on the mixer channel had to be VERY low, I'm talking -4/5db, or preferably for me as I ideally I want the mixer to channel to be at 0db as a baseline at least, I had to sometimes bring down the volume output on the audio 2. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 20.05.2013 | The volume dials on the Audio 2 do not cause clipping. They're just there to attenuate if you're using headphones. |
| Lizabeth Peight 20.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by sev
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| Ulysses Okelly 20.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
DJM250K = $198 Traktor Audio 2 = $139 Total= $337 Cheapest i've seen the z2 for is around $800, or cash converters have one at $600, but its had the **** kicked out of it. Main toss up for me is do i want the t1 for its inbuilt track selection etc, which can be done on the maschine, but is abit awkward/fiddly. Or the split up set up, so if i ever play out, if they have a mixer, i can leave mine at home. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 20.05.2013 | A typical 2 channel mixer + a Traktor Audio 2 (includes Traktor Pro) will cost about half as much as the T1/Z2 |
| Ulysses Okelly 20.05.2013 | i believe i slipped up, jb hifi (aus) had a sale on yesterday and i'm 99% sure they were selling these at $487 aud. If only i'd have got my phone out to see what they were worth! Should have known they would a fortune but i just saw 2 channels and though mehhh. Would have been perfect for me, as i only have a maschine so im in need of a soundcard, traktor pro serial and eq controls. Doh! Thats assuming i could use the soundcard for maschine? |
| Lizabeth Peight 19.05.2013 | But can they switch between internal and external mode without interrupting the master output is the question. I was not sure if the T1 could but that question was answered in the affirmative earlier on this thread, so the Z2 also I take it. This is relevant to the T1 as you must be in internal mode for post fader FX (but then you lose the damned LED volume levels), maybe the Z2 doesnt have this internal/external distinction that the T1 does..... |
| Alphonso Deitchman 19.05.2013 | Both mixers can mix and match between Traktor decks and external sources. |
| Lizabeth Peight 19.05.2013 | But can it be switched to external so CDJs can be used while a track from a Traktor deck is playing? if not.. POINT PIONEER! |
| Alphonso Deitchman 19.05.2013 | The Z2 only works in Internal mode when playing from Traktor. |
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