APC40 Mapping Madness (Midi Fighter Style on APC40)
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APC40 Mapping Madness (Midi Fighter Style on APC40) Posted on: 05.07.2010 by Lynetta Piacentino This week I've ordered my Midi Fighter and as I cannot wait to receive it, I already started using the Midi Fighter mapping for Traktor by remapping it on my APC40!The first result is now having row 5/6/7&8 (top 4 rows) mapped exactly as the DECK A mapping for Midi Fighter. I started to make slight adjustments to the LED's (as the APC40 has more options then the MF) and I went crazy playing with it! And I know that it's always cool to see other people's mappings, so I wanted to share mine as well! Both TSI (deck A only) and layout are attached. (don't forget to set the APC40 to 'dumb mode' via Albeton...). I cannot wait for the original MF to arrive and test the ultra responsiveness and speed!! (check out original files, new MF TSI file and info here http://www.djranking s.com/2010/06/3...lized-mapping/) I'll continue to make it even more APC40 style and map a second deck asap (and move the first deck A to the left). But as I'm also playing with 2 and 4 deck TSI's an update might not come very soon | |
| Kathe Lefcourt 04.04.2011 | Got Traktor 2 installed this weekend. Now that I've actually gotten to see what the sample decks look like etc. I can't wait to see what you come up with for the APC! |
| Lynetta Piacentino 25.03.2011 | @Derders, well done again @Davemex, Same here! Now with the S4/T2 which contains the sample stuff, the 'sample' buttons in the FX sections are useless, also I'm using a mixer as well and therefor the APC's (i've a 40 and a 20) are used to cue and play with all the fx. With the upcoming new fx I want to have some changes as well, also the top knobs are free for more crazy stuff (and combo's!!!!!) so I'll continue with that as well. Probably already this evening I'll share some beta-tsi asap!! If you have any suggestions regarding combo's or mapping, let me know!! |
| Kathe Lefcourt 24.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
Also, to add on to what some other people were saying, I'd definitely be interested in anything that gets put together with combo effects etc. The APC for me is mostly being used for looping and effects so the more effect controls, the better! |
| Sun Popov 23.03.2011 | new link to my settings http://ul.to/ts441dek |
| Coreen Pankow 07.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
i like the sound of that... it would be cool to see the midifighter supercombos in there if you decide to do that with tpro2. either way, just had a play with it as the full on traktor controller... a lil acclimation needed (imho) but great if i dont wanna lug the s4 out. good job man |
| Lynetta Piacentino 07.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by reigbord
Originally Posted by marky_tool
Originally Posted by Davemex
Regarding the FX, that's correct. Some APC40 versions seem to have a different note-set on that block or some strange other behaviour. I'm not sure how this can be fixed, seems to be different per model. |
| Lynetta Piacentino 07.03.2011 | Hey no stuff for super combo's yet indeed. But still believeing of remapping some stuff (also as the T2 will come out soon, which requires some different mapping). Also I want more FX to play with, so I'll probably continue the remapping within soon. The 3.0 mapping is indeed to control full traktor, but can also greatly be used next to an external or internal mixer (I use the DDM4000 next to it, works great. although I did some small remappings here and there). So it's not the Midifighter mapping anymore as it originally started (so for 4x4 buttons) but it does hold all the functions, cues and fx's stuff |
| Coreen Pankow 05.03.2011 | you wouldnt have done anything like a midifigher supercombo mapping for the apc would you have? ive read the whole thread and im a bit hazy cause of the meds im on (kinda sick right now) and dunno if i missed it (but the 3.0 mapping is to control basically all of the features of traktor -- not used just as a midifigher?) |
| Aaron Dapkus 11.02.2011 | Really cool. Great job man! |
| Russ Strutt 01.02.2011 | [QUOTE=Timmio;137585]It's not really clear to me what you did or didn't manage as you are talking about 'strange mapping behavoir' but also that you did OK? But this is the way I did it 1) I made a 4x4 button drawing and checked which notes midi fighter was sending per button (so I could check the TSI and knew which in/out signals were sent from Traktor when pressing a key on the midi Fighter) hey there.. i dont suppose you could share those? im just about to map my ipad and saw how many things there are.... would save me a hell of a lot of time... my gf already things of gone bananas remapping my vci 100... ipad should be pretty quick under the old finger ey! just a tap !! cheers mark |
| Kathe Lefcourt 13.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by reigbord
By the way, can someone explain what the APC's Scene Launch buttons actually do? I haven't been able to figure that one out. Updated to add this question too: On the HouseQ 3.0 mapping, the image shows the FX 3&4 buttons as loading up Delay, Slice, and Gater effects but when I loaded it I got Beatmasher, Slicer, and Turntable FX. Is anyone else having that problem or is it just me? Is it labeled correctly? Maybe this is a conflict between the VCI-100 mapping and this mapping... Anyways thanks again! |
| Venus Cabebe 10.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Davemex
thanks |
| Devona Mierzwa 02.01.2011 | Hi Timmio, Thanks for posting your mapping on here. I've just started using Traktor and have an APC 20. I've been trying to map controls with various states of LED feedback, (hotcue buttons whos colour changes depending on whether the hotcue is mapped and whether the track is playing or not.) I've been able to get certain things to work but it's still very buggy. Looking through your mapping has given me a few pointers. Maybe I'll post a map up soon! |
| Kathe Lefcourt 29.12.2010 | Ohh god, I just figured it out. I hate you all... for making such an awesome mapping! I'll never get anything productive done ever again! I have a list of stuff I need to do this afternoon and I just spent an hour destroying some tracks! APC20 with this mapping + VCI-100 with Ean's mapping= TOTAL LOAD BLOWING AWESOMENESS! Five years ago I wouldn't have even been able to imagine that something that was already a passion of mine could become so much more brutally fun. Thank you all again for your hard work and happy new year! |
| Sun Popov 29.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
have seen that the download-link of my version doesn |
| Lynetta Piacentino 29.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by Davemex
edit: Note that there are also 4 buttons in a square (below the play buttons) which activate an effect bank. In Traktor you'll notice that FX 1,2,3, or 4 will be put on. Be sure to check out the full image map which explains this mapping.
Originally Posted by Davemex
With the 3.00 mapping you can even set loop samples if you play a loop and then press the cue button. Not sure whether this is what you wanted to know, but it might be helpful |
| Kathe Lefcourt 29.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
I saw that in your mapping that the small buttons at the bottom are mapped to cue up different effects but they don't turn the effects on. Are these activated by the buttons/knobs that I am missing? Lastly (sorry for being so needy here...), has anyone tried to do the sample juggle setup on one of these controllers like the latest midi-fighter mapping? From watching the video in the mapping section, it looks like he's able to grab a sample and then jump around in it but I can't even believe about where to start trying to map out something like that! It looks like a killer capability though. Thanks again! |
| Lynetta Piacentino 29.12.2010 | Steph's TSI should be here somewhere, i dunno really Mine can be found via my sig The differences are now that big, and regarding the missing rotaries on the APC20; in that case you'll miss some effect sections (FX 1 and 2) which should be remapped. |
| Kathe Lefcourt 28.12.2010 | Hey Guys, First of all, thanks for all the work put in so far in making a great the APC a great tool for Traktor Pro. I just picked up the little sister, the APC20 and plan on using it with my VCI-100 and had a couple questions. First, I only got the 20 because I felt like most of the functions on the 40 were redundant with what controls I have on my VCI. Are there any buttons that I would need to use the HouseQ mapping that I don't have on my 20 and will need to remap aside from the EQ stuff? Also, I hear people talk about Steph's mapping vs. the HouseQ one but can't find a link to it to compare. Can someone please give me the link? Thanks again! |
| Lynetta Piacentino 31.10.2010 | I'm hoping to create a version without a 'mixer' section within soon too! As I want to use an external mixer and use the apc for all the juggling/cueing and advanced FX'ing stuff.. More coming up, for sure |
| Ashley Bernhoft 31.10.2010 | i love your mapping too, the apc is a great controller and our mapping makes it big for traktor! thanks to your mapping i finally got to understand how to map my apc in traktor nad luckily the described problems with the different production badges did not occur for me i added your blog to keep up with your updates |
| Lilliana Perris 28.09.2010 | Just wanted to say.....I love you guys! I am GLUED to my APC40..... I use Steph's (Derders) mapping ....and adjusted it to my liking.....but yeah....you cats rule! |
| Julietta Mistretta 28.09.2010 | would you mind pointing me in the right direction (docs, previous post, etc) to undo it and set it up in my own fashion? ive just about got the mapping down to control what i want to control, but id like to redo the LEDs to something a bit more intuitive for me. thanks! |
| Lynetta Piacentino 28.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by completej
The reason I did that is because the effects mapped to those rotaties do now behave exactly as the LED's are displaying. So some effects 'don't work' when in the middle, but when turning left/right they adjust the sound. Some effects (like the delay for example) work from nothing to full. And again another effect like the peakfilter works inverted, so maximum effect means no impact on the sound. So I inverted the LED that on your APC it's showing no LED's (0) and on your software it's full (127), turning the know will show more and more leds, and you;ll hear more and more fx (although in traktor the button moves to the left). I know, strange and almost not understandable. While mapping it sounded cute, but in practice it sometimes confusing, so I'll map them probably back to normal asap..... |
| Julietta Mistretta 26.09.2010 | bump to avoid another thread i am still using the mapping, but adjusting mappings to the DEVICE CONTROL physical knob bank on the APC4. is there a reason why the LEDs change differently? that is, if all the knobs are turned counter-clockwise as if to turn the effect in traktor to 0, some knobs appear to light the LEDs 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, and 7, whereas others will light only 7, and others still will only display one LED as it sweeps when you rotate it. i know i am not describing this well, so here's an image of all the knobs turned down to 0, or 7 oclock. is there a reason why those are different? all the knobs in the TRACK CONTROL bank function exactly the same in regards to the LEDs sweeping as you rotate them, though I would like to change them all to a different method, if possible. Any ideas? |
| Lynetta Piacentino 26.08.2010 | That's probably not a mapping issue, nobody reported looping probs yet and your problem sounds more like latency issues or sync problems. Are you sure your latency is lower then 50ms (input+output) and are you using a perfectly synced track (or no sync at all..)? Bij track selection looping area you mean the 8 buttons in the middle for looping, don't you? Don't they do anything? |
| Dione Haimes 25.08.2010 | Track selection area looping is not working for me, and the looping on the clip stop has a dely before it starts, and a buzzing sound when it does, (maybe half a second out?) |
| Lynetta Piacentino 25.08.2010 | You're welcome! Let me know your thoughts I found out some accidental feature I even didn't know about; when you set a loop with the loop buttons and then set a cue, it set that loop to that cue. You can then manage whether it must loop or just act as a normal cue depending on whether the 'loop/32' button is on or not... (hopefully this sounds logical, either way I still need to make that instructional vid ) |
| Julietta Mistretta 24.08.2010 | awesome update, definitely dedicating some time toevening
for this thanks |
| Jolyn Brunello 25.08.2010 | i guessed as much.thanx for the reply |
| Lynetta Piacentino 24.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by calvin01
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| Jolyn Brunello 24.08.2010 | ive got an mpd32,can i use this mapping with it? |
| Lynetta Piacentino 24.08.2010 | I use Fireworks (Adobe) to edit the image, it's an PNG file so you can easily copy texts etc (just works like a PSD file..) I guess you can also open it with Photoshop as well, as I can open PSD without problems also. Can you PM me your email address? Then I'll send the file to you, please take good care of it |
| Sun Popov 20.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
will try it out later ... good evening ... Okay I have load your .tsi - nice work! ... but there we go a little bit apart in the needs :-) there are differences from your picture... FX 3+4 Gater = Phase-Flux Delay = Beatmasher FX2 Gater = Iceverb would be good to add the Reset Buttons for the EQ the XONE EQ is one thing that I have set 3 days ago too - don |
| Sun Popov 20.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
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| Lilliana Perris 20.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
I believe that's maybe why? |
| Lilliana Perris 20.08.2010 | Wicked! Checking it now! |
| Lilliana Perris 20.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by derders
Dude....I was playing with what originally is your mapping (i changed it a wee bit)...but what I wanted to ask is: When I use the buttons above the faders (instant FX) then I keep having to turn up the Wet\dry (Cue knob) everytime i press one of them. Is that how it should be? I can't get it to be propa insta FX....i press the button...then gotta up the wet\dry each time. |
| Lynetta Piacentino 20.08.2010 | HOUSEQ APC40 Mapping v3.00 ! Whoot finally did a mega update on my previous TSI and combined the best stuff from my TSI with input from other people and mappings. I focussed on having a TSI with maximum options, but still very useable. Also I tried these functions while playing live and they are great to use in a dj-set . In short the main functions (the rest can be checked in the image map describing the mapping functions): - Full cueing options on 2 decks - Great loop functionality, including different loop lengts and relooping - 2 advanced fx units supporting delay, slicing, 8bar sampling and gater fx (don't forget to use 2 advanced fx together and play with fx on fx3 while sampling it on fx4!) - 2 chained fx units supporting various fx's with fx1 supporting cool sound fx and fx2 supporting beat-fx with delays (don't forget to use 3 fx together, for example all fx on fx unit 4, which give you awesome delayed gater sounds while playing with the beatmasher as well!!) - dry/wet indepent per fx unit! - Xone 4 EQ supported on both decks! - Filter effect for both deck - and much more.. (volume faders, crossfader, auto grid-cueing on cue1 etc..) Much more to come, but for now enjoy the current new 3.00 version of my TSI . No video with instructions yet, but most options are described in the attached mapping image. Have fun and let me know your thoughts |
| Lynetta Piacentino 20.08.2010 | Hey, no I didn't. In the 2.19 version I removed the dry/wet for fx1 and fx2 totally. The dry/wet can now be controlled via fader 2 (fx 3) and fader 6 (fx 4). In addition fader 1 controls volume deck a and fader 2 controls deck b Just remembered that also the red buttons now control GATER instead of beatmasher, which is way more cool. The beatmasher in in fx4 now. (damn I need to update that image from me... I'll continue changing my version now and then update it to 2.20 with a new image... but first I'll check yours now ) |
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