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CDJ-2000 looks like it has been discontinued- time for the CDJ-2000 Nexus speculation
Posted on: 03.02.2012 by Romelia Stankard
So it looks like the CDJ-2000 is officially discontinued according to a few sources and the CDJ-2000 Nexus will be released in April.

Have any photos or details been leaked? I'm hoping for better screens and scrolling waveforms. What else could they add?

http://excessiverecordsdjshop.blogspot.com/

PIONEER PRO DJ NEW PRODUCT UPDATE 2012
PIONEER PRO DJ NEW PRODUCT UPDATE 2012.

CDJ 2000 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY CDJ 2000 NEXUS. [ AVAILABLE IN April 2012 ]

DJM 700 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY DJM 850. [ Details coming soon ]

HDJ 1000 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY HDJ 1500 in SILVER and BLACK 2 COLORS SELECTION [ AVAILABLE IN April 2012 ]

DJM 250 [ AVAILABLE IN March or April 2012 ]

*remarks, PRICE will be announce soon.

STAY TUNE FOR SPEC UPDATE.
Leon Darlington
31.08.2012		I believe so - maybe Master for following a Master tempo? Slave/Master or something? Guess we can only wait and see
Hyman Werness
31.08.2012		i hope it wasn't a MASH button aka sync... but it probably is
Leon Darlington
31.08.2012		Things I saw from the video:

Loop mode button - this will be interesting

Slip Mode Button

Giant button that says Master (Well, you see Mas, but it looks like it would be Master... it looks like the same size as the Que and Play button... wonder what this will be for)

Clearly supports the new RekordBox iPhone/Android App, so it probably has a built-in wireless router like their new fisherprice controllers too.
Hyman Werness
31.08.2012		so from what i noticed:

Scrolling WAV form on what looked like a better resolution screen
maybe it linked via the WiFi like the aero to an external device and that was the screen showing, but we know it hooks up via wifi rekordbox
slip roll
Hyman Werness
31.08.2012		I hope its not an all in one piece... like a high end controller...
Arla Seniw
31.08.2012		Ok just saw the video. Wonder how much price of the 1000 and 2000 will drop.
Arla Seniw
01.09.2012		6th? Whats happening?
Hyman Werness
01.09.2012		Holla!!!!
Shalon Jaranilla
31.08.2012		Finally, 6 September we find out.
Perry Fauls
31.08.2012		 .......
Laurence Calisto
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by spencer4hire
There a ton of DJs still rocking the Denon 3500s still to this day. Denon makes products that are just as well built as Pioneer. To slam Denon due to build quality is ignorant of the facts. Have you ever had any experience with Denon CDs?
Denon's physical build quality is fine, but honest truth? In my opinion, Denon can't build a CD deck that's even remotely aesthetically pleasing to save their life, and I've found the interfaces of their CD players to be kludgy (as well as layouts.) The SC2900 and SC3900 literally make my eyes bleed with color choices, shape and button placement. I've also generally disliked the feel of the buttons on those units - the CDJ's buttons are so reactive you barely have to breathe on them when you want to hit them but very hard to accidentally trigger (if that makes any sense) - I don't get that feel from the denon kit. If I'm bringing in a track fader-open I'd way, way prefer the pioneer cue/play buttons.

I know the appearance argument is a little superficial sounding but once I break past that "I'm dropping $1k on a CD player" point, money becomes less of an object than the satisfaction I'm gonna get from what I'm buying, and I have to say that for my money the Pioneer decks are superior in a lot of ways, both performance-wise and aesthetics-wise.

I'm not saying that if you like Denon stuff that's not cool, and if you're happy with it you clearly have way different tastes from me and that's 100% fine, I'm not gonna slam you on your choice of Denon kit, I just happen to believe that there's a whole pile of factors that contribute to quality, big and small, and I really do feel like Pioneer has an edge that justifies the price.
Hyman Werness
28.08.2012		screw it I'm opening up a club screw paying 6400 for 4 cdj's when i can make money selling frat guys overpriced vodka drinks while trying to catch his latest roufie victim... and play great music on gear i didn't have to buy!!!
Yuko Armacost
28.08.2012		Doesn't Pioneer hook clubs up? Isn't that how they became the standard by ensuring that their gear was being used in every club by offering great deals?
Edmundo Kivisto
28.08.2012
Originally Posted by dj gullum
But if the price was 1/2 of what they are now they might sell 3/4 times more units, Because it seams most people would want them but just can't aford them. So they would actualy make more money then they do now. If you had a SC3900 or 2900 and CDJ2000 side by side costin the same most people would choose the Pioneer.
I don't believe so...I mean we are now getting into hypothetical area but lets run with it anyway. I believe there are two things the make Pioneer such an attractive brand to many DJs (especially new DJs):

1. They've managed to get themselves entrenched as the club "standard" player. This gives them alot of cred and there is no doubt that that is their main sales driver.

2. They are elitelly priced. Meaning they are financially beyond the reach of many people. People want what they can't afford. That's why people who own Fords want Bentleys, people who own Bentleys want yachts, people who own yachts want planes and people who own planes want to go into space...

So given #2, if the CDJ-900 was priced at $800 & the 2000 at $1100 similarly to Denon, do you believe they would still be as popular? Or do you believe people would now look at features because they are priced similarly? I believe people would now look at features and performance and while Pioneer would compete, they would not be as dominate. I really believe Pioneers second biggest sales driver is their price...they cost so much so they have to be the best.
Yuko Armacost
28.08.2012
Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama
Man up and pay the price they ask...or shop elsewhere and be happy with cheaper/other stuff.
The Denon/Numark/... flagship models are all long gone, while CDJ is still rocking.
There a ton of DJs still rocking the Denon 3500s still to this day. Denon makes products that are just as well built as Pioneer. To slam Denon due to build quality is ignorant of the facts. Have you ever had any experience with Denon CDs?
Nila Ragonese
28.08.2012		If pioneer would want to make the same profit as they do now, assuming they make a profit, they'd likely need to sell tons more at a lower price. Probably something like 50-75% more sales than they do now. So it's better to sell less and spend the profit on marketing to potentially gain sales at the higher margin.
At least for them. Denon is a similar business model but Numark is more about moving a ton of pieces and getting a ton of revenue.
Ashanti Andreacchio
28.08.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Highline
So if your cost are the same as other companies and you are only selling 1/3 - 1/2 the number of units, then you have to raise the price.
But if the price was 1/2 of what they are now they might sell 3/4 times more units, Because it seams most people would want them but just can't aford them. So they would actualy make more money then they do now. If you had a SC3900 or 2900 and CDJ2000 side by side costin the same most people would choose the Pioneer.
Dannielle Dingey
28.08.2012		Man up and pay the price they ask...or shop elsewhere and be happy with cheaper/other stuff.

The Denon/Numark/... flagship models are all long gone, while CDJ is still rocking.
Maybe they (Denon) should have invested more in their products so they would last / become industry std / ...
I bet they would +$1000/deck if they would manage to succeed.
Edmundo Kivisto
26.08.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
A products cost doesn't consist of pure "materials and manufacturing" and "R&D," virtually every single element of the product chain is implemented in the cost of the unit. Service and support, product distribution, advertising, promotion, and dozens of other things all have their cost built in to the cost of a unit. Rekordbox alone was made by a contracted company, and is essentially given out for free, that development cost a lot of money, but isn't directly bringing revenue in. Im curious what "few gadgets" are anything close to the 10lb slab of engineering, technology, and premium quality parts that is the CDJ-2000, that don't have an equally high end price. But realistically, I believe Chinese shit the likes of Behringer, Gemini and Numark products with the "let's make a feature list and built it to a price point" methodology have seriously warped our expectations for a product's cost.
Originally Posted by sebastiannz
I agree that CDJs are well made products, but how much of that HUGE price is marketing? I'd wager a significant chunk. THere is a whole line of marketing psychology devoted to the idea that people will buy the most expensive product because they believe it makes the quality better. I'm not saying pioneer products shouldn't be the most expensive anyway, they should be. But they are so much more ridiculously expensive that I find it extremely hard to believe that the product is simply cost-price.

I believe Pioneer knows if they charged less, people would believe 'oh shit they are cutting costs' and club owners who lease pioneer gear would start wondering about whether the CDJs are going to f*ck up on friday or saturday evening because they aren't 10x the cost of the next rung down. Being the de facto standard on the market gives that company a lot of power - and Pioneer aren't afraid to use it.
^^^^This!!!

You can't tell me that Pioneer is the only company in the WORLD that can't manage its cost to produce a quality player for under $1000. Pioneer is the only company that makes a player (2 actually) that cost more than $1000. Come to believe of it, besides mixers and the NS7(depending on where you shop), Pioneer makes the only products in the DJ market that cost more than $1000 that I can believe of. Every other major company on the planet has managed to get R & D, Parts & Assembly, Marketing and Support into their products for under $1000 except Pioneer.

I actually believe Pioneer has done that as well...gotten their cost under control. I don't believe it cost them relatively anymore than any other company to make their products. So where is all the extra money going you may ask. Well for starters they give away a ton of gear & money to super clubs and super DJs in the form of sponsorship. That stuff has to be paid for. Secondly, Pioneer doesn't sell as much product as the other manufacturers. So if your cost are the same as other companies and you are only selling 1/3 - 1/2 the number of units, then you have to raise the price.

This is why Pioneers prices are obnoxiously high. Couple that with the fact that many non-informed punters believe that the higher the price the higher the quality. Now not saying that Pioneer doesn't make great stuff because they do...but so do many other companies out there. That's why I believe somebody with credibility (ie Denon) should produce a $1500 deck to give those people with money burning a hole in their pocket another choice.
Alfredo Tooher
25.08.2012		2 times I have tried to charge my iPhone from the cdj2000 slot and it rebooted the deck on me mid set, not sure if its trying to draw too much power but I stopped using the 2000 as a charging device, lol
Yevette Matatall
25.08.2012
Originally Posted by spencer4hire
I don't like the idea of relying on an unstable smart device like an iPhone or Android. I have a 32gb USB stick that works quite well. It's smaller than a quater. Why would I need something else? I guess there are those times when someone requests something you don't have. Don't know really why anyone would want that. What happens when your phone gets low on batteries?
Charge it via usb slot on CDJ....( i want to say i have done this, and my feeling is I ahve, but I cant confirm this works as my CDJ's a currently on the other side of the world.
Peggy Gabrielson
25.08.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
I can't tell if you're trolling or you've never actually opened up a CDJ or DJM, since you believe that CDJs are actually "100% plastic," I'm assuming the latter. Pioneer's engineering is some of the most intuitive I've ever seen in an electronics company. Virtually every single switch and seam on the units are designed to be as durable and ergonomic as possible. The cue switches on DJMs, one of the highest use switches on the unit, are mounted on the chassis, in the centre of the unit, under the dust plate, covered by a catch cup built into and surrounding the button, all mounted under the faceplate. The switch is then actuated by a rod on the fulcrum of the button, poking into the heart of the unit. The result? Virtually indestructible cue switches, that still have the lightest touch around, and most of the Pioneer switches follow a similar design. Behringer just puts a PCB under a faceplate, and loosely mounts some buttons on top of it, that's the company you're talking about when you say a design is "quaint."

A products cost doesn't consist of pure "materials and manufacturing" and "R&D," virtually every single element of the product chain is implemented in the cost of the unit. Service and support, product distribution, advertising, promotion, and dozens of other things all have their cost built in to the cost of a unit. Rekordbox alone was made by a contracted company, and is essentially given out for free, that development cost a lot of money, but isn't directly bringing revenue in. Im curious what "few gadgets" are anything close to the 10lb slab of engineering, technology, and premium quality parts that is the CDJ-2000, that don't have an equally high end price. But realistically, I believe Chinese shit the likes of Behringer, Gemini and Numark products with the "let's make a feature list and built it to a price point" methodology have seriously warped our expectations for a product's cost.
I agree that CDJs are well made products, but how much of that HUGE price is marketing? I'd wager a significant chunk. THere is a whole line of marketing psychology devoted to the idea that people will buy the most expensive product because they believe it makes the quality better. I'm not saying pioneer products shouldn't be the most expensive anyway, they should be. But they are so much more ridiculously expensive that I find it extremely hard to believe that the product is simply cost-price.

I believe Pioneer knows if they charged less, people would believe 'oh shit they are cutting costs' and club owners who lease pioneer gear would start wondering about whether the CDJs are going to f*ck up on friday or saturday evening because they aren't 10x the cost of the next rung down. Being the de facto standard on the market gives that company a lot of power - and Pioneer aren't afraid to use it.
Peggy Gabrielson
25.08.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Bob
Is it just me or is having iPads in the DJ booth just a really lame idea...?
slightly cooler than a laptop - less cool than just cdjs - and definitely less cooler than turntables only
Alla Bluemke
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by spencer4hire
I don't like the idea of relying on an unstable smart device like an iPhone or Android. I have a 32gb USB stick that works quite well. It's smaller than a quater. Why would I need something else? I guess there are those times when someone requests something you don't have. Don't know really why anyone would want that. What happens when your phone gets low on batteries?
Well if you are dumb enough to use your phone as your only source of music it is you own fault lol. But i mean its just another source for music to me. Whats on my phone may not be whats on my thumb and I may want to pull tracks from it. I personally don't really see the need in Wifi for the CDJs eithers, but its obvious new cdjs will have it.
Rochel Gleese
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by Luconia
nothing wrong of being old school...
Definitely not
Teresia Janusch
23.08.2012		lol its cool man!
Hyman Werness
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
i use cds and/or 1210's too...im not a controller purist by any means...i come from a vinyl background lol
yeah i read your gear list at the bottom, just giving you a hard time!!! don't take me serious please!!!
Teresia Janusch
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by wampaone
stinking controllerists... you have 95% of this entire website dedicated to you let us have our slice of the pie!!!!! nah man I'm just messing with you... for me its too much work to sit down and map things out. id rather just keep mixing and finding new transitions!!
i use cds and/or 1210's too...im not a controller purist by any means...i come from a vinyl background lol
Emely Metz
22.08.2012		nothing wrong of being old school...
Rochel Gleese
22.08.2012		Old School ^
Amira Gotcher
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by ekwipt
Just you

No lamer than a laptop, I'd love to be able to have all the functionality of Traktor built into controllers, a mixer and iPad just for library/track selection.

Would really get us over the checking the email habits.
ha ha, maybe it is just me. i don't like laptops in the booth either to be honest.
Hyman Werness
22.08.2012		stinking controllerists... you have 95% of this entire website dedicated to you let us have our slice of the pie!!!!! nah man I'm just messing with you... for me its too much work to sit down and map things out. id rather just keep mixing and finding new transitions!!
Teresia Janusch
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by ekwipt
Just you

No lamer than a laptop, I'd love to be able to have all the functionality of Traktor built into controllers, a mixer and iPad just for library/track selection.

Would really get us over the checking the email habits.
slightly off topic, but i mapped all my transport controls to my xone 1d, so never need to touch the laptop once im up and running...saving me from the 'email' look
Rochel Gleese
22.08.2012		Just you

No lamer than a laptop, I'd love to be able to have all the functionality of Traktor built into controllers, a mixer and iPad just for library/track selection.

Would really get us over the checking the email habits.
Amira Gotcher
22.08.2012		Is it just me or is having iPads in the DJ booth just a really lame idea...?
Alfredo Tooher
21.08.2012		I would love the wifi for the fact of connecting the iPad to use as your screen like the denon 3900 does, no big deal if you lose the connection quick because its just a screen to scroll, search and load tracks from a connected usb drive

spencer, you have a 32gb stick connected, instead of searching and doing everything off the smalled 900/2000 screen, connect a tablet and it reads all the tracks/playlists on the usb stick, pretty cool addition if the 2000 screen is a tiny bit too small for some guys.
Yuko Armacost
21.08.2012		I don't like the idea of relying on an unstable smart device like an iPhone or Android. I have a 32gb USB stick that works quite well. It's smaller than a quater. Why would I need something else? I guess there are those times when someone requests something you don't have. Don't know really why anyone would want that. What happens when your phone gets low on batteries?
Emely Metz
21.08.2012		well, i dont mind the wifi...not really my winning points either, but i'm interested on the Aero as an integrated media player (stanton made it but i'm still skeptical)
Hyman Werness
21.08.2012		?
Originally Posted by Luconia
which one? the Aero or the speculated 2000nexus?
Specifically neither... im reffering to built in wifi... why would a dj even want that
Emely Metz
21.08.2012
Originally Posted by wampaone
Waste of money...
which one? the Aero or the speculated 2000nexus?

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