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CDJ-2000 looks like it has been discontinued- time for the CDJ-2000 Nexus speculation
Posted on: 03.02.2012 by Romelia Stankard
So it looks like the CDJ-2000 is officially discontinued according to a few sources and the CDJ-2000 Nexus will be released in April.

Have any photos or details been leaked? I'm hoping for better screens and scrolling waveforms. What else could they add?

http://excessiverecordsdjshop.blogspot.com/

PIONEER PRO DJ NEW PRODUCT UPDATE 2012
PIONEER PRO DJ NEW PRODUCT UPDATE 2012.

CDJ 2000 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY CDJ 2000 NEXUS. [ AVAILABLE IN April 2012 ]

DJM 700 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY DJM 850. [ Details coming soon ]

HDJ 1000 DISCONTINUED , REPLACED BY HDJ 1500 in SILVER and BLACK 2 COLORS SELECTION [ AVAILABLE IN April 2012 ]

DJM 250 [ AVAILABLE IN March or April 2012 ]

*remarks, PRICE will be announce soon.

STAY TUNE FOR SPEC UPDATE.
Jessi Therkildsen
04.09.2012
Originally Posted by lucasmanning
I really hope the sync button on the new 2000s is just a rumor
I hope this post is just sarcasm.
Ashanti Andreacchio
04.09.2012
it's funny that beatmatching DJ's believe they can no longer use these CDJ's because of a sync button. Some cars have auto break systems if you pay atention to your driving you might never need them, but your going to love them when you get cut of guard.
Vikki Jeannoel
04.09.2012
I really hope the sync button on the new 2000s is just a rumor
Jessi Therkildsen
04.09.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
Anything that makes something easier automatically devalues it in the eyes of someone who learned the hard way. At least to some, I just see it as a easier way to do things and welcome progress.
I have been deejaying for just shy of 20 years now (collecting vinyl even longer), the vast majority of those years on vinyl, and I won't be using sync for anything. 1st of all taking the time to manually make sure all your beatgrids are perfect is a HUGE PITA. 2nd, mixing is something I pride myself on.

But all that being said why do I care if there is a button there for Sync? There are all kinds of other buttons on a CDJ2000 that I also won't use.
Leeanna Ayla
04.09.2012
Anything that makes something easier automatically devalues it in the eyes of someone who learned the hard way. At least to some, I just see it as a easier way to do things and welcome progress.
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012
Deaf...
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012
Nice "dreaded" quote!! Im getting them regardless... been patiently wating and saving all summer... my issue is it puts us one step closer to having our peers question us as laptop/sync djs when the reason i was holding off was to get away from my laltop... it was a task for me being dead in 1the ear and partial in tbe other... i do use a dvs now (serato)i but dont want the screen in my setup anymore at least for the time being...
Jessi Therkildsen
04.09.2012
Why do people keep talking negatively about a sync button on a CDJ. I've even seen posts (elsewhere) that says if there is one it the poster would never buy another Pioneer unit.

Not that I would use it (I don't play off of Rekordbox), but I don't understand how it is so bad or "dreaded". The new CDJs already allow you to dial in the BPM to 2 decimal places (using Rekordbox analyzed files), that is pretty much sync but without a button. Putting a button on there to do that wouldn't make it any more cheating than using the decimal places of tracks Rekordbox beatgridded.
Leeanna Ayla
04.09.2012
Everything I have seen or read about NI tells me they don't let other companies product releases dicate their choices beyond what they already have planned. I also believe they have pretty comprehensive plans going well into the future.
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012
I can agree with you there... i believe NI realized scrolling wav and the dreaded sync were inevitable so they had no choice but to implement advanced hid on the 900 and 2000... kinda wondering why they skipped the 850 and went for the 400 though.
Makkins Clifton
04.09.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Bob
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new firmware update on the CDJ 2000's to bring some of the new features.

It's not exactly a massive improvement, i'm sure the Sync function will put some people off.
Know we know why after months and months of delay why NI finally pulled their finger out and suddenly gave the CDJ2000 a bit of love with the Advanced HID capability - this new model is just Traktor in a CDJ.

There's also nothing really in this update that can't be achieved by hooking up Traktor to an original CDJ if you're that way inclined.
You overestimate what NI knows about the new CDJ-line. We don't even have one.

I'm hoping for a firmware-update but don't believe there will be one. The new features are nice but don't make me want to sell mine and grab a pair.
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Bob
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new firmware update on the CDJ 2000's to bring some of the new features.

It's not exactly a massive improvement, i'm sure the Sync function will put some people off.
Know we know why after months and months of delay why NI finally pulled their finger out and suddenly gave the CDJ2000 a bit of love with the Advanced HID capability - this new model is just Traktor in a CDJ.

There's also nothing really in this update that can't be achieved by hooking up Traktor to an original CDJ if you're that way inclined.
except now i don't have to worry about some drunk whore/asshole spilling a drink on my MBP!!! just my $4K players
Amira Gotcher
04.09.2012
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
I'm disappointed if they don't give the 'old' CDJ 2000 the multicolored waveform display. It's totally just a firmware-thing. The new firmware won't be that much different from the old one.

EDIT: Oh, it's on the frontpage http://www.djranking s.com/2012/09/0...dj-2000-nexus/
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new firmware update on the CDJ 2000's to bring some of the new features.

It's not exactly a massive improvement, i'm sure the Sync function will put some people off.
Know we know why after months and months of delay why NI finally pulled their finger out and suddenly gave the CDJ2000 a bit of love with the Advanced HID capability - this new model is just Traktor in a CDJ.

There's also nothing really in this update that can't be achieved by hooking up Traktor to an original CDJ if you're that way inclined.
Loura Ulam
04.09.2012
If that price is correct then they come in at
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012
it is the least they could do for the old ones... i agree. i wonder if the 850' 900 will drop in price marginally $50-100... in Guitar Centers mag i received last week they had PRICE TO LOW TO PRINT near the 2000...
Makkins Clifton
04.09.2012
I'm disappointed if they don't give the 'old' CDJ 2000 the multicolored waveform display. It's totally just a firmware-thing. The new firmware won't be that much different from the old one.

EDIT: Oh, it's on the frontpage http://www.djranking s.com/2012/09/0...dj-2000-nexus/
Katelin Simandl
05.09.2012
More....

http://www.newgroove.it/articolo.php...ER-CDJ-2000NXS

This Pioneer CDJ-2000 NXS/Pioneer CDJ-2000 MK2 has got some new features such as:
- BEATSYNC Feature (as seen on Pioneer XDJ-Aero)
- Loop Chopping/Slicing via 'LOOP MODE'
- Zoomable waveforms
- SLIP Mode
- An even better Rekordbox integration
- Advanced hot-cue's
- Renewed, better quantize function (in combination with the beatsync)
- Rekordbox mobile app integration (as seen on Pioneer XDJ-Aero)
- Multicolored waveform display

Source

Google /

http://fr.audiofanzine.com/dj/community s...oneer,p.7.html
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012
or let us in on what else is being released on the 6th... i smell a few updates and a new model entirely...
Makkins Clifton
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by wampaone
so send me a high def one?!?!?!?!
I neither have one nor would I be able to spread it. Since I'm not under NDA and we don't have such a player at our office I can at least confirm that is legit.
Hyman Werness
05.09.2012
so send me a high def one?!?!?!?!
Makkins Clifton
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by souldancer
Found this pic in the comments of dj worx. seems exact the same as the original 2000 expect 2 small silver buttons on the right above the pitch fader.

http://kempia.kemco.or.kr/up_load/ef...7;쳐.jpg
I can confirm that this picture is legit.
Laurel Litchko
04.09.2012
mind=blown.
Hyman Werness
04.09.2012
I notice more than that my friend!!! notice the 2 buttons above and below the loop in and out... one of them you can clearly see slip (bottom button below loop). Also notice the Rekordbox icon at the very top where the media selection, now 5 rather than 4 buttons (link, sd, usb, and cd) is located. There is also more text located above the INFO tab and the top right where the standby lock unlock portion is... so from the video that was released... im still not seeing the mas*** button... so like i guessed, there is going to be another device as well that will soon be released... other than the cdj-2000 and 900 Nexus models and whatever mixer probly the djm 2000 that will be getting an update
Shalon Jaranilla
04.09.2012
Found this pic in the comments of dj worx. seems exact the same as the original 2000 expect 2 small silver buttons on the right above the pitch fader.

http://kempia.kemco.or.kr/up_load/ef...7;쳐.jpg
Leon Darlington
02.09.2012
Here you go guys... proof from Pioneer. - Maybe they are just calling it MK2 after all
http://www.pioneer.eu/be/products/44...TE2/index.html


Also, the last CDJ release promo teaser looked exactly like this
Hyman Werness
01.09.2012
Yeah, but then i noticed the cd load slot and two red lights... just like the current 2000...
Leon Darlington
01.09.2012
Originally Posted by wampaone
Very true i noticed no jog wheels or slanted face from what i could tell.
Well they're not gonna make it too obvious and give it away. Everything in that video was hard to see and they want to keep you guessing. 99% sure its the new CDJ 2000 Nexus
Hyman Werness
01.09.2012
True...
Jessi Therkildsen
02.09.2012
Originally Posted by wampaone
i don't hear anyone complaining about $1500 1210-M5G's
Because no one is buying them for that price.
Amira Gotcher
02.09.2012
Originally Posted by Gavintech
I know this is a month's-old post but Serato Scratch Live was not the sole Advanced HID software when the CDJ2000's came out. Virtual DJ was also working perfectly in Advanced HID mode when SSL was.
True Gavin, but people like to believe there's a conspiracy between Pioneer and various software manufacturers instead!
The fact is that NI chose not to implement Advanced HID until recently, I suspect that this new 'Traktor in a box' approach from Pioneer is seen as a serious threat to NI as these new generation of players look to do away with the laptop in the booth.
Jessi Therkildsen
01.09.2012
Originally Posted by ekwipt
Conspiracy nut inside me says NI will adopt Advanced HID straight off the bat with these as Serato paid money to be the sole Advanced HID software for the CDJ2000mk1s. Nexus mixer TSP certified Nexus CDJ2000 TSP certified.
I know this is a month's-old post but Serato Scratch Live was not the sole Advanced HID software when the CDJ2000's came out. Virtual DJ was also working perfectly in Advanced HID mode when SSL was.
Laurence Calisto
01.09.2012
i had a thought about that 'master' knob that everyone was speculating was for sync...?

what if that's a master tempo knob, i.e. now we can adjust pitch and tempo separately. they're talking about remixing, etc... that seems to make a lot of sense to me.
Loura Ulam
01.09.2012
How much does everyone believe this/it will cost?
2k each or 3k if its an all in one??
Laurence Calisto
31.08.2012
Originally Posted by souldancer
Well, they talking about a player and not a controller, mixer or device. My bet it's the follow up for the cdj 2000. The poster of the vid in this thread, did post this vid as his first post. in the cdj 2000 thread. Could be a pioneer guy. At the beginning of the vid they show a smile face of light. Could be the jogwheel. Maybe a new one but flatter? The whole device seems to be flatter, maybe against all odds they dumped the cd. So maybe the dawn of the new species have, taken it's fall and pioneer is going to push the dying industry of cd's over the edge

They further talking about wifi functions, like the new aero. Don't believe they gonna push a device that will link that technology with the cdj 2000. Or they using the link function but i doubt that. They gonna want to have your money, so definitely new players i would say.

Maybe sample decks true loop mode? Looking at the aero seems pioneer is putting up a fight with the dj software industry, and pushing rekordbox as a the main engine like windows and lion, and giving you the hardware to run it like a macbook.

And why slipmode if you have no jogwheels?

And there subtle campaign seems to be working, because when you read true the different community s, the laptop is getting a lesser popular device that stands between you and the crowd. And the loss of the original feeling of dj'ing, Like the subtle remark by van buuren, that it's like the old vinyl days where you could read the track, by looking at the vinyl. Wich probably means better wave forms, which already exist with all the software but know is like reinvented (like pioneer like to do even it's not their invention) by pioneer, by integrating it directly in the hardware.

And a big dutch dj shop states their cdj 2000 are out of stock, and estimated to be back in december 2012?

Anyhow i probably wanna have it because i'm a sucker for sentiment.
if they ditch the cd it's not going to be a CDJ2k successor

if they ditch the cd's it's also not going to be a standard club install because too many clubs still have 1ks to rely on not having CDs available. some DJs i know still do CDs exclusively to avoid the problem.

what i heard last about the 2k situation was that they had stopped being produced because the stock wasn't being purchased fast enough, and that the stock is running low and pioneer's building new ones right now to fill the need which will be out around november/december.

i really don't believe this is a replacement to the 2000. if it's a deck with a full color screen with a travelling waveform and sync that plays multiple tracks it's going to be WAY more than a mark 2. and again, the promo video for it is FULL of CDJ2ks, they're not going to prominently feature a tech they're tossing out the door. I believe it's supposed to go alongside the 2k, not replace it.
Shalon Jaranilla
31.08.2012
And the funny thing is, that denon already had a lot of these possibilities slightly touched with a lot of there players, now denon has dropped most of these functions, and made more pioneer look alike players, and now pioneer is probably integrating, FX, sample decks. multiple songs on one deck. and everybody is going to embrace it
Rochel Gleese
31.08.2012
I'm guessing you can load multiple songs into the CDJs at one time.

So 2-4 tracks will all be playing at once synced and you'll be able to step through the tracks creating a mashup. Would definitely be revolutionary for one CDJ.

Traktor has already moved into this direction with the remix decks.

Don't expect these to be cheaper maybe more expensive
Shalon Jaranilla
31.08.2012
Well, they talking about a player and not a controller, mixer or device. My bet it's the follow up for the cdj 2000. The poster of the vid in this thread, did post this vid as his first post. in the cdj 2000 thread. Could be a pioneer guy. At the beginning of the vid they show a smile face of light. Could be the jogwheel. Maybe a new one but flatter? The whole device seems to be flatter, maybe against all odds they dumped the cd. So maybe the dawn of the new species have, taken it's fall and pioneer is going to push the dying industry of cd's over the edge

They further talking about wifi functions, like the new aero. Don't believe they gonna push a device that will link that technology with the cdj 2000. Or they using the link function but i doubt that. They gonna want to have your money, so definitely new players i would say.

Maybe sample decks true loop mode? Looking at the aero seems pioneer is putting up a fight with the dj software industry, and pushing rekordbox as a the main engine like windows and lion, and giving you the hardware to run it like a macbook.

And why slipmode if you have no jogwheels?

And there subtle campaign seems to be working, because when you read true the different community s, the laptop is getting a lesser popular device that stands between you and the crowd. And the loss of the original feeling of dj'ing, Like the subtle remark by van buuren, that it's like the old vinyl days where you could read the track, by looking at the vinyl. Wich probably means better wave forms, which already exist with all the software but know is like reinvented (like pioneer like to do even it's not their invention) by pioneer, by integrating it directly in the hardware.

And a big dutch dj shop states their cdj 2000 are out of stock, and estimated to be back in december 2012?

Anyhow i probably wanna have it because i'm a sucker for sentiment.
Laurence Calisto
31.08.2012
Originally Posted by wampaone
Very true i noticed no jog wheels or slanted face from what i could tell.
also not wanting to like get super conspiratorial but the CDJ2000 plays a very prominent role in this video. there's a poster for it on the wall, they're in the background of almost every shot, i kind of feel like they wouldn't have the thing they're replacing visible constantly in a promo for the thing replacing it. it feels as if they're trying to stress it's something that's used alongside the 2000 instead of in place of it.
Hyman Werness
31.08.2012
Very true i noticed no jog wheels or slanted face from what i could tell.
Laurence Calisto
31.08.2012
my money's on standalone hardware that does what ableton does for live remix purposes. there's a class of DJs who are bringing laptops into clubs running ableton and playing that way and live remixing and pioneer wants to capture that market.

everything about it looked like it's a lot less oriented towards someone playing a set and a lot more oriented to someone doing controllerism. which... would be hot. but i don't believe it's a MK2 CDJ2000, all the views of it showed a conspicuous lack of jogwheels and the way they were playing it did not suggest CDJ. if they nixed the jog wheel on a 2k successor that would be game over, i'm out.

i WOULD bet that an updated 2k mk2 would be announced alongside, maybe supporting some of the killer features of the new tech/aero (if you can count the wifi as a killer feature) but I don't believe what they're talking about is something intended to replace the CDJ - really, really doesn't sound like it.

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