Any DJTT S4's already arrive?
Any DJTT S4's already arrive? Posted on: 05.11.2010 by Julissa Serrone Folks who supported the home team.......I got mine on the way and am wondering if the DJTT ones started hitting some front doors yet. How was the video?Also I saw on the NI community a few guys that had issues with the jogs. Wondering if this is "batch" specific and if we'll see any sent from DJTT with hardware issues. | |
| Leeanna Ayla 05.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by PRESSPL>Y
|
| Hang Natelli 06.11.2010 | Fair enough, I can't wait to experience to awesomeness. Sorry to stay on that same topic, but I have one last question for you. If I get really mobile with the S4, and the unit is going to be experiencing some shocks and jolts, do you believe I'll need to recalibrate before every single gig? -PL>Y |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 06.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by PRESSPL>Y
THERE IS NO OPTION... recalibrating is mandatory. Whatever the cause is NI will get to the bottom of it. Meanwhil everyone has to update to 1.0.1 so everyone has to recal. WHen you get your S4 you will see just how the jogs work and you will understand that they need looking after. Out of the box play is just not an option for such an advanced unit. Takes 10 mins to setup and your rocking |
| Julissa Serrone 05.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
The title of this thread is: ANY DJTT S4's ARRIVE YET? If you are gonna discuss Jog Wheel issues on a non DJTT unit please do so on the NI board where guides, and tips have been posted. The intent of this thread was to get feedback from DJTT S4 customers. |
| Julissa Serrone 05.11.2010 | ^ yeah that link is titled "Official jogwheel calibration guide" I believe it's just a series of touhcing the platter on the right, left, etc. Nothing complicated. |
| Leeanna Ayla 05.11.2010 | I believe your blowing this out of proportion a little. I can only believe of a handful of people that have reported problems with the jog wheel. |
| Carlee Pickard 05.11.2010 | I did install the new updated software (which it does automatically), and I did turn the jog wheels the first evening
to get the "top part" of it to click in to place on the first evening
. I did it to both the wheels on the first evening
. The right one is the one that gives me (or used to give me) little bit of trouble till I figured out what was the problem and how to adjust to it. I have a totally noob question now, how do I recalibrate my jog wheels? I'm in class right now and my cell phone does not want to open that NI community link right now. So if its in that post, I can just read it when I get home in a couple hours. |
| Hang Natelli 05.11.2010 | Oh, I actually have an S4 coming (hopefully today!). I've never used Traktor before (besides some simple messing around in my studio) so I'm looking for my mind to be blown here. I like everything that the S4 is meant to offer, especially the plug-and-play usability. My current weapon of choice is a Rane 57TTM. The plug-and-play usability of it is excellent. I appreciate being able to go into any DJ booth (assuming there is room) and plugging my 57TTM into one channel of the house mixer (always a Pioneer 4-channel or A&H 4-channel), and then plugging in the USB to my laptop for instant playability. Mind you, I use CDJ's with my 57TTM, and I realize a control platter is one less piece of gear that can't go wrong with a 57TTM, but I'm also quite able to play an entire set in Serato internally. In the same fashion, the S4 is absolutely ideal for me. And of course, I will definitely re-calibrate the jogs. In fact, troubleshooting is the best way to learn, and I enjoy gaining more expertise on anything DJ related. I'm just saying, this unit should be built like a tank (plastic or not) and shouldn't be sensitive enough that it requires fixes to problems that are present before the box is even cracked. I can't wait for my S4 though -PL>Y |
| Eulah Tamkin 05.11.2010 | @PRESSPL>Y I see your point on how this product 'should of been a plug and play item', and the left jog wheel problem is something that consumers shouldn't have to deal with, but is it necessarily a fai? I dont believe so. Didn't faulty products also affect a significant company such as Apple, with their iPhone 4's? They seemed to handle it fine and now the iPhone is probably the most wanted/requested phone in the world? I'm sure their sales back this up. I own a s4, and I found that it is in fact VERY plug and play. The jog wheel calibration only seems reasonable after a software update, not a huge 'issue' that causes it to be NOT plug and play. It seems the s4 isn't for you, so what product would you go for then? |
| Hang Natelli 05.11.2010 | My point is, as a digital product, and one that features out-of-box playability, no consumer should have to fix anything. There are definitely people out there that are not that technology savy, even if they are using a DVS. There are people out there that will never use a community . It just so happens that we know of all the benefits of an online community, but there are definitly people out there that don't. Back in the day, when people had to use turntables was way back in the day. People haven't had to use turntables for some time now as there has been plenty of options out there. CDJ's definitely changed the game. And they've been around for the better part of a decade, and have always been plug-and-play out of box. The fact that the S4's first release has issues is a fail in my opinion. Certainly not plug-and-play. -PL>Y |
| Twyla Hilst 05.11.2010 | I'm not talking as a N.I. fanboy or something, the S4 seems really easy to set up, even if you have the left jog problem... |
| Twyla Hilst 05.11.2010 | but back in the days, when you bought a Turntable, you had to calibrate the arm and set the cartridge by yourself, no one was complaining about that... The jog problem seems well explained here by karlos and everyone, that seems not really complicated to fix... |
| Hang Natelli 05.11.2010 | I highly doubt that it's a transportation issue is all these people from different parts of the world have the same issue. And if it was an issue of misshandling during transportation, it must have happened in one of the first or second points straight out of factory. I would fully hold Native Instruments accountable for this. It is their responsibility to package their gear
properly, and also their resonsibility to get it to the 3rd party shipping companies in perfect condistion. Since different people shipped with different companies, I would say the problem came from the source. Really, Native Instruments should have did a better job with this, and has only caused their customers as well as themselves headache. -PL>Y |
| Twyla Hilst 05.11.2010 | I believe the Jog issue is principally a transportation issue, not a real hardware issue as I see the reactions and the method to fix it... |
| Hang Natelli 05.11.2010 | PS I hope like hell that my S4 gets here today. Nothing better than recieving a package before a weekend, and nothing worse than getting it on a monday. -PL>Y |
| Hang Natelli 05.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I have to say, I am extremely dissapointed by all of this. Karlos, as somewhat of an expert on Traktor as well as controller hardware, you must not have been quite as panic'd as most people encountering problems. Do you not agree that considering the biggest selling point of this unit is plug-and-play and build quality as a close second (as well as all the other new features being a close second), that the S4 is becoming a boarderline fail? I'm saying this from the standpoint of a user who doesn't like to loose hair over problemshooting, and disslikes tweaking hardware. When I bought CDJ's, they didn't require any recalibration. They didn't require that I pull off the jog and snap () anything back in. This kind of freaks me out to be honest. Back on topic: I fully support DJTT's, and that's why I try and buy my gear from them even though it costs me more with shipping and takes much longer to get to my door (I have learned over several purchases). But the fact is, DJTT does cost more and/or it takes much longer to arrive. Simply put, you need to up the competitive anti because little things like this are going to sway your customers away. Maybe be champions of fast shipping? I know it's an extra cost, but one that will make customers happy, and keep customers from potentially leaving. -PL>Y |
| Leeanna Ayla 05.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
|
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 05.11.2010 | Yeah mate its cool. The more people can read the solution quickly the less we will have guys running around like headless chickens when they have the issue. My left jog wheel was faulty when i got my S4 and none of this had been reported so you can imagine how i felt on unboxing the S4, i was nearly in tears. A simple press and twist was all it took to fix. Im trying to get to the bottom of the cause right now. |
| Julissa Serrone 05.11.2010 | ^ and also install 1.0.1 Ok thanks Karlos --- I hope this thread didn't seem like I was knocking the S4 or spreading bad news about it. On the contrary. I'd like to hear some positive feed back from DJTT customers and also about the DVD. Please refer to the NI community for Jog wheel assistance. This is NOT the "how-to" fix your jogwheel thread. Thanks. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 05.11.2010 | Im gonna put an Official post about potential Jog Wheel issues on the NI community
. This Left Jog Wheel issue was flagged up at Beta stage and is easily fixed by removing and reattaching the jog wheel. For now anyone having this issue should do this: Hold the outer rim of the Jog Wheel firmly and depress the top plate and turn counter clockwise to make the clips on the plate attach properly to the jog wheel. You should feel it click into place. You MUST recalibrate your jog wheels after this. If this doesnt firmly attach the Jog. You should repeat the procedure but turn the plate clockwise to remove the plate completely and then reattach it as releasing it sometimes helps with making it attach again. RECALIBRATE. I cannot stress this enough. |
| Treva Carinio 05.11.2010 | I ordered mine from the NI webshop and I was one of the first to post an issue about the jogwheels on the NI community
last friday. My problem was that the signal coming from my left jogwheel was very unstable. When pressed the signal would go away or stay without pressing. Also when you pitchbend and you look at the pitchfader on the screen, it goes up when you turn backwards and down when you go forwards, which is normal. In my case it would jump all over the place and just act weird. Eventually I took the top-plate from the jogwheel off by holding the outer ring, press hard on the top-plate and turning it counter clockwise. I repositioned it again and clicked it back into place. After recalibrating the problem was solved. I just guess that some people's controllers were handled a bit roughly during transportation or something, because I can't imagine these controllers going out of a factory like that. |
| Julissa Serrone 05.11.2010 | Cold, Have you installed the 1.0.1 update and recalibrated? I believe that will solve that issue from what I've read. http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=121643 That's not what I was referring to though. Some guys have had some issues where the actual jog was loose and un-usable. Not sure where those guys ordered theres from but am believeing there is probably a pretty big group of guys that bought thiers from DJTT and with a the few known issues out - i'd hate for people to come down on DJTT for an issue with the S4. So I'm wondering if any DJTT ones have shown up yet and if there have been any issues and solutions so the guys who get them here can share info ahead of time. I recommend you check out the NI community . There are some solutions posted for the jogs. |
| Carlee Pickard 05.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by haze324
By no mean does it really bug me, especially once I figured out how to work around it - i'm just curious if that is what you were referring to. Sorry if it's a little vague. If thats what you were talking about then I do have the same problem, but I bought mine from Guitar Center. |
| Archie Ynoa 05.11.2010 |
Originally Posted by haze324
|
<< Back to NI - Native Instruments S4/S2 Controller talkReply