Mini Controller for Cue Points - 10$
Mini Controller for Cue Points - 10$ Posted on: 08.05.2011 by Blanch Grainer Hi,here is a small Controller build. :-) Parts: 6 Arcade Buttons 1 Button (for Numpad activation) 1 Tupperware Box 1 Numpad Wired for Numbers 1 till 6. Works Great for Playing Cup | |
| Maryanne Weatherill 28.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
So, it says they have 2 USB ports on them too. Is that actual ports, or connectors to add a port onto it. Does daisy chaining 2 of these together cause any latency issues? |
| Imogene Modradian 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by anthony2025
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| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Megan Sabie 07.07.2011 | Hey guys. How do I put LED's into my circuit? I'm using a normal keyboard and checked out the buttons. But now there is the question which connectors on the pcb are +5V and which are GROUND or just the signal??? Normally you got R-Connectors (in my case 8, from 0-7) and C-Connectors (16, 0-15) Isn't it quite important to know for putting the LED's correctly in?! |
| Su Kowalsky 14.06.2011 | karbon, this is sick! this is the thread that really kickstarted my project into motion! love the fact these types of setups are so cheap and comparitively easy. |
| Maryanne Weatherill 28.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Nelle Potrzebowski 28.05.2011 | After reading this thread, I bought myself a cheap numerical keypad to try one myself. I just wanted to say that with my keypad I can press more than 3 buttons at once, so far mapped 6 fx buttons to the pad and can hold them all at the same time jm2p. Also numlock switches mode so in theory my 18 buttons become 36 (from 1- 0 to cursors/home/delete/insert etc). |
| Olene Minyard 20.05.2011 | Yeah, I used to have a wireless Xbox controller that I used with a PC to play games, so it definitely works with the Microsoft driver. So, I'll stick this in to see if the driver runs it. If it does, I'll try and make a wireless Midifighter. Only problem is that it's infrared so may be a bit unreliable in clubs with lights reflection. Though, I can easily put the on the back of the unit with some covering over the emitters and receivers so no light can get in in that scenario. |
| Arcelia Siebeneck 20.05.2011 | if I recall, the xbox 360 joypad drivers for Windows don't support wireless joypads. worth doing a google to see if anything's changed since I last investigated though... edit: oops - http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driv...rmation/11297/ |
| Olene Minyard 20.05.2011 | Interestingly, just remembered I have 4 wireless Xbox 360 Scene It? controllers at home that are not used as I no longer have an Xbox! Gonna rip these open toevening and have a little inspection. Each controller has 5 buttons (4 + big top buzzer) and an infrared emitter. Would these be usable in making a 4x4 wireless Midifighter-type device? Could build each strip of 4 buttons with the infrared emitter for each strip at the back of the unit, so they'd all be facing the same way. Then plug the receiver into the laptop and voila. Would that work? I don't know much about all this, but seems do-able! |
| Olene Minyard 20.05.2011 | Ok, it's the weekend tomorrow and I'm going shopping! Just need to check a couple of things are do-able before I go. I'm gonna go around some car boot sales, markets etc with the plan of buying: 1 x Numpad with 19 keys and USB cable 2 x Original Xbox Controllers As many retro arcade joysticks as I can find My plan was, to make it as cheap as possible, to buy old retro arcade sticks and then to open them up for the arcade buttons on them. What I want to check is that I can easily detach the buttons from old sticks and then use on my custom controllers? I plan to build 2 separate controllers. One for cues using the numpad based on the OP basic design and one using the 2 xbox pcb's for an effects controller and buying that many arcade buttons is expensive, so looking for cheaper ways of obtaining them |
| Olene Minyard 20.05.2011 | I believe I'm gonna attempt a couple of these controllers now. One using a numpad with a 4x4 grid and a couple of other buttons for a cue juggler and one using a couple of Xbox gamepads to make a more Midifighter-type controller for effects etc. Probably start my own threads soon will build logs and no doubt requests for help! |
| Arcelia Siebeneck 19.05.2011 | not sure - I've only got xbox 1 joypads (which I usb modded). The original pads have proprietary usb connectors on them... basically each joypad has a built in two port usb hub. The problem is that the connectors aren't standard - some sort of Microsoft connector. It wouldn't be that difficult to mod them into normal usb connectors. course, the xbox 360 pads might just use normal usb connectors... if so, no modding needed; just dairy chain them together. I wouldn't have thought there'd be any added latency... nothing you'd be able to discernibly measure anyway. |
| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
So, it says they have 2 USB ports on them too. Is that actual ports, or connectors to add a port onto it. Does daisy chaining 2 of these together cause any latency issues? |
| Imogene Modradian 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by anthony2025
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| Arcelia Siebeneck 19.05.2011 | they're basically the same design aren't they? you'll get 6 analogues and 14 buttons. driver should be easier to sort out because I believe the xbox360 pad has proper Windows drivers? http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en...dows/C8G-00004 |
| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Arcelia Siebeneck 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by Bunford
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| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 | Didn't realise that. Is there any easy ways around that? What about using a numpad and Xbox wired gampad inside the unit. Then using the numpad as a 4x4 for cue points and the gampad as a grid for effects/instant grat? I can use the earlier suggestion of putting a USB hub inside the unit, plugging the numpad and gamepad into it and then feeding the USB hub's cable out as the connector to the laptop. Would that work as I assume gamepad controller allow multiple buttons at the same time. Anyone know how many buttons and analogues you get on the Xbox 360 wired controllers PCB? |
| Jacalyn Birkenstock 19.05.2011 | Take in mind that with a regular keypad you are not able to hold more than three keys at the same time, sometimes only 2. This is perfect for cue points but don't expect to use effects or instant gratification on it. |
| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 | Went for a walk during my lunch break and scoped out a seemingly perfect numpad. Has 19 key layout and a USB socket for a detachable USB cord. It also had Num Lock button with LED. Thinking of getting it and building it with a 4x4 arcade button grid, use the additional 2 buttons for shift and deck switch and then put a button on the side wired to the Num Lock key along with the LED. Also planning on putting on 16 LEDs with the 4x4 grid. That means the Num Lock button on the side with the LED is the "power on" function, with the mini-USB socket there to hook up the cord to. Then, the top will have the 4x4 grid and the 2 additional keys. Sound plausable for a DIY numpad mod you believe? |
| Kecia Wnukowski 19.05.2011 |
I don't see why not... that's a great idea!
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboa...d/devices/6355 As a side note, latency is of no issue. It works on two batteries so one has to find a way to accommodate with that. The lifespan of the batteries is supposed to be three years with 2 millions keystrokes in an office environment. Then it has a an on/off button (linked to an on/off switch on the circuit board). It should allow to use 21 buttons (21 normal buttons but three can't be of any use within Traktor, and three that can be set up as any key). It has one led but the led is lit only when the device is switched to on to show your batteries' level (green/red). So here I am with a 30 |
| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
But I will only be using about 4/5 buttons simultaneously at most I'd imagine, so would the USB power (about 5v I believe) be enough to power the unit as well as 4/5 LEDs at the same time? |
| Arcelia Siebeneck 19.05.2011 | it should be possible - but you'll need some resistors (sorry can't help with which type unfortunately - check the Ean Golden video) also, I'm not sure if the USB power will be enough to power 16 LED's... you might need to use a separate power supply (or not press all 16 buttons at the same time!) |
| Olene Minyard 19.05.2011 | Ok, I'm definitely giving this a go! I'm planning a numpad mod that will be a blatant rip off of the Midifighter. I've no experience on this though. Any chance you can explain thw wiring/soldering bit a bit more, like what goes to where? And also, how you find which connector is which key? What should be on my shopping list? * 16 arcade buttons (what type are best? MF's use Sanwa OBSF-24 I believe, are any others ok?) * box to house it all * USB Numpad * Wiring (any specific type?) * 16 LEDs I'm planning on using an LED next to each button so that when thta button is pressed, the LED comes on, and go off when you let go of the button. Is this possible without needing any third party software? There'll be no need for MIDI feedback, just for LED to be activated whilst button is depressed, so I assume there's some way for the button to activate the LED? |
| Jacalyn Birkenstock 18.05.2011 | I want to add some leds, i don't care about midi out or any feedback, just some ilumination, Can it be done? |
| Arcelia Siebeneck 17.05.2011 | Actually - midi feedback LED's is perfectly possible with just a numpad and some software. Most numpads have 3 LED's built into them and these could be triggered via some AHK scripting. The only limitation would be having just 3 LED's. When I get some time this week I'll have a go at writing a script. The way it would work is: - Traktor outputs LED midi data to a virtual midi device (like LoopBe or Hubi) - AHK script receives midi data via virtual midi device and converts it into keystroke data (simulate pressing of numlock, capslock and scroll lock keys) - End result: Numpad LED's turn on and off when receiving midi Potential problems: - Turning numlock, capslock and scroll lock on and off might mess up other keyboard mappings. (edit: actually, looks like AHK can control the LEDs without altering the actual state: http://www.autohotkey.com/community /topic10532.html) |
| Amy Gaumer 16.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by NOIZEdj
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| Eugenio Cheverie 16.05.2011 | Wow, awesome awesome idea question: would it be possible to attach LEDs that could be triggered when a button is pressed? Obviously you can't have any output leds... but momentary would still be cool, right? |
| Kecia Wnukowski 14.05.2011 | Excellent ^^ |
| Amy Gaumer 14.05.2011 | well, inspired me too, not in same way, mine is a home-made joystick pcb and use joytokey to routing the controller, here some pics a video (bad quality, sorry, cellphone cam) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Pc6CXrWjQ |
| Jacalyn Birkenstock 14.05.2011 | The Midikey |
| Dacia Mccart 14.05.2011 | i was going to say that but i didn't and bam someone said that. Pics or it didn't happen bro |
| Joy Rory 14.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by anthony2025
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| Jacalyn Birkenstock 14.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by anthony2025
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| Jacalyn Birkenstock 13.05.2011 | Working on this right now I will be posting pictures when it is finish. |
| Kecia Wnukowski 14.05.2011 | Ok, you've inspired me and I hope soon to work on a complementary controller (based on your idea) to the S4 as it makes a lot of sense. I'm believeing about a bar the lenght of the s4 to be positioned at the bottom.... I may have questions for you later if you don't mind. |
| Kimi Umer 12.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by bigbeatzz
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| Vernie Beharry 11.05.2011 | NUMBERPAD!!!! I use this every day at work!!!!! "sometimes, the simplest answer stares you in the face" |
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