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Reloop Contour?
Posted on: 30.10.2011 by Fatimah Czuprynski
Have read some reviews about it but not many feedbacks from normal users to this reloop controller. Also could not find any good video of this unit.

I mean it seams like the perfect controller for me. With the interface edition i could use the club mixer and i just had to bring my laptop, my reloop contour and my lauchpad into the club. A professional, not that expensive setup.

do you have the controller? what do you say about it?
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Juliette Vensel
07.02.2012
Originally Posted by punkpc
This is one of the best parts. The build quality is very good and the buttons and knobs feel great.

Just from playing with it the last week I would have to say its best configure would be as a add-on to a TSP2 setup. Adding midi control to a setup where you don't have any midi control.
Thanks. This would be the same deal for me... adding to analog setup. Tough decision with the S2 price point currently as buying a Contour plus upgrading to TP2 full version puts you at the same price as the current S2 price ($399).
Cesar Bores
07.02.2012
Originally Posted by Timmyboy
- How easy is it to mix 2 or 3 decks with this & and external mixer and not get confused between switching layers all the time? Also how easy is it to mix without using sync?
With a external mixer it works good. I had it hooked up with my S2 at first and it was kind of a pain. (Not having volume faders for C&D) so I tried it out with a external mixer and it felt better in that configure.

Have it set up like this. (Sorry for the mess still working out the layout)



Working with out sync is pretty hard seining that there is no pitch slider. You have to use the "Shift + Loop Length" knob to change tempo and it changes it really slow.

Originally Posted by Timmyboy
- How well does it perform as a stand alone controller for 2 deck mixing with just this and a laptop? Does this require extensive remapping?
It does this pretty well for the most part. The default mapping (Only does 2 decks and 2 samplers in TP2) allows you to adjust Volume with the Jog Wheel when it is not assigned, and the effects sliders work as EQ's with the Shift function. The only real remapping you would need to do is if you want to control 4 Decks with this one controller in TP2.

Originally Posted by Eizhauz
How satisfied are you with the rubber buttons? Built Quality?
This is one of the best parts. The build quality is very good and the buttons and knobs feel great.

Just from playing with it the last week I would have to say its best configure would be as a add-on to a TSP2 setup. Adding midi control to a setup where you don't have any midi control.
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Holy crap, the interface edition is
Felicitas Laderach
31.10.2012
Yes indeed but correct me if im wrong, there is no sounnd card on it i believe
Era Roka
30.10.2012
from what i have heard the denon sc2000 seems to be verry good aswel
Felicitas Laderach
28.10.2012
Very good posts about the contour controller (read all 6 pages) but still my question remains...add the specific controller to my existing set up? (2 denon dns1000 cdjs+4 channel mixer urei 1603) or sell everything and go for all in one controler like the denon mc 3000? i get the feeling that the whole digital thing will replace my cd collection and my cdjs...something that i dont mind pretty much....
Emilia Dielmann
17.10.2012
I just got this controller yesterday , mapped it according to reloop community s , and I must say this thing is crazy , there a unlimited functions. I did have a S4 before , but the reloop packed controls from the S4 and its own. Not sure why it's no popular. Fits in a backpack no problem.
Lanita Kosanovic
27.08.2012
My oppinion about the controler.
I have two units.One with interface and one without.

I only found two negative things about Contour.
Firstly,I have to use both units wall powered.Maybe it's my laptop's fault,beacuase so many things are connected through usb (2x Akai LPD8,external hard disk,notebook stand with fan and ofcourse 2 Contours) and it can't handle all or just doesn't provide the voltage.One of two controllers simply freezes (usually controler edition),when both are not connected to the wall.It's not a big deal,but I had to buy a power suply,because it wasn't included in the controler edition.
Second thing
The sound is ok and I get pretty decent latency of 8.9 ms on an old pc laptop with core 2 duo and 4 GB of RAM. But the volume is way too loud or too hot. With Audio 8 I had the master knob in Traktor set to -2.0,with contour it has to be around -8 to get a normal volume level in the external mixer (headroom and master limiter off-in my oppinion gains and limiters beside the master knob doesn't work as well in comparison to external mixers).With this tweek it's ok.But Reloop really could have repair this in some firmware upgrade and it's sad that they didn't.

Now to the pros.
Both units are very well built.They are heavy,but I prefer a little more weight and metal+aluminium construction of contours instead of a plastic one. Rubber butons are ok and after few months of regular use they still feel the same as first time. Jog and it's five modes are fantastic.Lack of pitch fader?Why do you need a pitch fader,if you can use jog wheel set as precize as you like in one mode (i.e. all of four mode buttons turned off and you get a fifth mode).Jog wheel is also perfect for controling effects,currently the pitch mode controls my effects,because you can pitch in scratch mode in the same way as on pioneer cdj 800 i.e (sides of the platter).
I just love the shift button.With some advanced mapping you can really take advantage of this.A preparation mapping?Again-why,just use the combinations with shift on the contour.Somebody mentioned the sensitivity of encoders for effects.Yes,in the original mapping encoders are set too sensitive,but you can change that with ease.Or use the encoders for something else,because the short faders are enough for basic effect usage.

That's my oppinion of the device.
One happy user
Charlette Csizmadia
25.05.2012
Cheers, does anyone know if there's any mappings besides the one from Reloop for traktor?.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
25.05.2012
^^this

Wilhelmina Notermann
25.05.2012
I bought the Reloop Contour Interface edition as the first part for my future fully modular setup (next up, Xone K2, then something that controls the Remix Decks, hopefully they will be unlocked soon). Anyway, I'm loving it.

I really don't see any controller that packs the same kind of functionality into such a slim, well built device. For me personally, I just wanted A: a jogwheel as I play back-to-back with CD Dj's and B: have something I can play around as standalone at home. C: have something compact that I can easily fit into a small DJ-booth.

So, if you have the same kinds of wishes for your controller, I'd say go go go, this thing is just to good to be true for that price.
Charlette Csizmadia
22.05.2012
GARGHH another question, I'm a lazy git and I doubt I be using 3 decks. However, I hear no sync?.

So I can't have deck A as master and then deck sync to A?
Charlette Csizmadia
22.05.2012
Plus newbie here with the interface question, if I just want to sample from the Reloop say in deck do I just feed the rca from output 1 to the rec in of the mpc?
Charlette Csizmadia
22.05.2012
I'm a MPC user who makes beats and really enjoy Traktor from what I played around with. Its the looping sections, and the filters/effects which I really dig. I like to use Traktor first to mash up samples with effects, and loop sections I wish to sample and to sonically mash them in new possibilities. So I like to have a piece of hardware which I can set loops in and out, have control over filters and loops if that makes sense. While mixing be secondary.

So if I biy a contour controller audition would that be a suitable fit?.

If anyone can answer how well does it work with Traktor 2 pro.

How does one pitch fade and cross fade?.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
22.02.2012
Cheers nice to hear that. I'm gonna be plugging it into a djm500 pioneer. between that the reloop and x1 i reckon i could just about cover everything in traktor. are you happy with the sound card?
Jonathan Lokey
22.02.2012
I am really enjoying mine. I was really surprised by the build quality it is really good. I am struggling to work out a standalone mapping with mixer and 2 decks all built in but i believe i just need to spend more time on it.

If you are using it in a dvs setup then you do not need the interface edition as you would be using the dvs soundcard. Where the interface edition does really work though is next to a mixer controlling between 2-4 decks or if you had a midi only mixer like the x-session pro or the new berhinger one when it comes out.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
22.02.2012
How are you guy's enjoying the contour? I'm almost about to buy one. anybody have any issues with theirs? looking at the interface edition. Bargain price for a 5 channel sound card alone.

cheers
Juliette Vensel
07.02.2012
Originally Posted by punkpc
This is one of the best parts. The build quality is very good and the buttons and knobs feel great.

Just from playing with it the last week I would have to say its best configure would be as a add-on to a TSP2 setup. Adding midi control to a setup where you don't have any midi control.
Thanks. This would be the same deal for me... adding to analog setup. Tough decision with the S2 price point currently as buying a Contour plus upgrading to TP2 full version puts you at the same price as the current S2 price ($399).
Jonathan Lokey
07.02.2012
Thanks for the info.

Ill update with my views on it when it arrives.
Cesar Bores
07.02.2012
Originally Posted by Timmyboy
- How easy is it to mix 2 or 3 decks with this & and external mixer and not get confused between switching layers all the time? Also how easy is it to mix without using sync?
With a external mixer it works good. I had it hooked up with my S2 at first and it was kind of a pain. (Not having volume faders for C&D) so I tried it out with a external mixer and it felt better in that configure.

Have it set up like this. (Sorry for the mess still working out the layout)



Working with out sync is pretty hard seining that there is no pitch slider. You have to use the "Shift + Loop Length" knob to change tempo and it changes it really slow.

Originally Posted by Timmyboy
- How well does it perform as a stand alone controller for 2 deck mixing with just this and a laptop? Does this require extensive remapping?
It does this pretty well for the most part. The default mapping (Only does 2 decks and 2 samplers in TP2) allows you to adjust Volume with the Jog Wheel when it is not assigned, and the effects sliders work as EQ's with the Shift function. The only real remapping you would need to do is if you want to control 4 Decks with this one controller in TP2.

Originally Posted by Eizhauz
How satisfied are you with the rubber buttons? Built Quality?
This is one of the best parts. The build quality is very good and the buttons and knobs feel great.

Just from playing with it the last week I would have to say its best configure would be as a add-on to a TSP2 setup. Adding midi control to a setup where you don't have any midi control.
Juliette Vensel
06.02.2012
Please do. I would be interested to hear. TBH, it is the perfect type controller for my present setup, but I'll be damned if that S2 deal isn't calling my name!

I guess I have until end of March to decide, when the deal ends.
Jonathan Lokey
07.02.2012
How satisfied are you with the rubber buttons? Built Quality?

I will let you know when my unit arrives!
Juliette Vensel
07.02.2012
Great questions. Look forward to the answers...

How satisfied are you with the rubber buttons? Built Quality?
Jonathan Lokey
06.02.2012
Hi,

I have just ordered the contour interface edition and wanted to ask the guys who have got one of these a few questions.

- How easy is it to mix 2 or 3 decks with this & and external mixer and not get confused between switching layers all the time? Also how easy is it to mix without using sync?

- How well does it perform as a stand alone controller for 2 deck mixing with just this and a laptop? Does this require extensive remapping?

Thanks

Tim
Juliette Vensel
02.02.2012
I will PM you some questions about your S2, so as to not derail this thread.
Cesar Bores
02.02.2012
Originally Posted by Eizhauz
Thanks for the run down on your setup. I like the S2 but also like that everything tied to the software is mapped with hardware controls on the S4. Personally, I am not a fan of the plastic build quality and missing booths on the S4, and thus the VCI-400 is spot on. I have always like the Xone DX simply due to A&E's reputation on sound quality, and wish the filters they are known for were added as well. While I found a place blowing them out at $470, adding the TP2 software (full version) brings that price back up to $600. The S2 is looking better all the time at this price for an all-in-one.
This sounds a lot like my believeing. I love the VCI-400 (but doesn't come with TP2) and didn't want to spend the money on the S4 because it wasn't a rugged. That's why I bought the S2. It's smaller and less features, but it comes with TP2. I figured it would be nice to have a smaller portable rig just in case I didn't want to lug all my other gear. Plus its small enough to add other gear with. (like the Contour, Midi Fighter, and now a launchpad... hehe) With the new price point it would be like buying TP2 and getting a extra controller for like $200. So you can go wrong.
As for the Xone gear... that's defiantly your call. There gear is some of the best sounding I have ever played one. I even used to own a Xone 62 back in the day.



Originally Posted by Eizhauz
To answer your question:
I am mostly a dad now (LOL!) but realistically I do the occasional house party and other random gigs, so 'basement' would be the best way to describe unless you prefer 'hobbiest'. I know that I am not in a market for some gear, but I love versatility, the ability to plug in anything and play whether it be CD, Ipod, Memory stick, or Computer/software. I play anything with a beat that the crowd likes to hear, any genre, but if I was say asked to be a resident DJ at some place my genre of choice would be the deep house/minimal/tech house avenue.
Sounds like me (with out the kid... just older... hehe) "Basement" would be fine, never cared for "Hobbiest" (Not if you spend the money we do... hehe)
I played Jungle, Hardcore, and Turntablism for years. As I'm getting back into things I've been playing Hard House/Hard Dance/Hard Style and taking a stab at Controllerism.

Well whatever you decide to go with I sure it will work out. Just remember the only true way to know if it will work for you is to just play on it for awhile. If it doesn't fit your needs there is always the "Buy and Sell" section and E-Bay
Juliette Vensel
01.02.2012
Originally Posted by punkpc
what kind of DJing are you doing? Clubs, Mobile, Bedroom? This can help shape the kind of gear best for you as well.
Thanks for the run down on your setup. I like the S2 but also like that everything tied to the software is mapped with hardware controls on the S4. Personally, I am not a fan of the plastic build quality and missing booths on the S4, and thus the VCI-400 is spot on. I have always like the Xone DX simply due to A&E's reputation on sound quality, and wish the filters they are known for were added as well. While I found a place blowing them out at $470, adding the TP2 software (full version) brings that price back up to $600. The S2 is looking better all the time at this price for an all-in-one.

To answer your question:
I am mostly a dad now (LOL!) but realistically I do the occasional house party and other random gigs, so 'basement' would be the best way to describe unless you prefer 'hobbiest'. I know that I am not in a market for some gear, but I love versatility, the ability to plug in anything and play whether it be CD, Ipod, Memory stick, or Computer/software. I play anything with a beat that the crowd likes to hear, any genre, but if I was say asked to be a resident DJ at some place my genre of choice would be the deep house/minimal/tech house avenue.
Cesar Bores
01.02.2012
I understand your pain. I'm currently running the S2 controller... (bought it Last month at full price... dang it) Its a great controller but a little limited. I wanted something super portable, but that wouldn't fell like a toy. After playing on it a bit I realized I wanted more controls. So I added a Midi Fighter, and now a Contour. Next will be a MPK-Mini, and I'm guessing the Behringer CMD gear when it comes out. Modular is a good way to go if you plan on both hybrid and digital. That way the gear can be used with both setups. One thing to keep in mind is that the NI soundcards (Including ones in S2/S4) are really great sound quality. So if you were just digital your would still have great sound.
By the way...
what kind of DJing are you doing? Clubs, Mobile, Bedroom? This can help shape the kind of gear best for you as well.
Juliette Vensel
02.02.2012
Originally Posted by punkpc
It's really not that bad... just a little annoying, but it completely workable. It gives you access to all 4 effects which most little controllers don't. So its worth the little bit of extra button pushes.



If your planing on going hybrid to start. I would recommend the Reloop Contour with the Audio I/O. This unit would just plug right into your DJM along with your CDJ. The unit comes with Traktor LE which is upgradeable for free to Traktor 2.1.1 LE from Reloop's support/community page. That would be enough for you to get started and you could upgrade later. As for the Laptop... This is important, unless what you have is way out of date you can start with what you have and upgrade later. I use a desktop at the moment cause I haven't upgraded my laptop yet. I'm just mixing at home right now so a desktop will do.

This is my second time of moving to Digital mixing. I started out with just vinyl back in 1995, started using Final Scratch in 2003, quit DJing in 2007 after the "Rave Act" made finding a gig impossible. Started getting back into it last year after seeing what guys like Ean were doing. This time I'm going completely controller. The flexibility and creativity of what you can do with Traktor and controllers is what I have always tried to do from the start. I have used every piece of gear you can believe of, from Turntables, to CDJ. I was even using Guitar effects before Pioneer came out with their effect mixers. The old ways do have there advantages like when you go to a gig you just need your Records and CD's because the gear is already there. But being able to bring your entire library, and having the flexibility of Traktor (or something like it) in one bag. Trust me you would leave the old way behind too.

But to make a long story short :P... Try out the Contour with your current setup and see if it flows for you. It will give you a chance to get your feet wet in Traktor without spending to much and in a environment that your already comfortable with.
Thanks again for the advice. I agree the simplicity of an I/O controller into my DJM will be the simpliest way to introduce the 'new era'. I am not sure my laptop will be sufficient, so I am looking into the MBP 15".

Now the tough decisions....
With the cost of the controller and upgrade to TP2, you are now looking at the same price if not more than the currently slashed price on the Kontrol S2 (with full TP2). Bloody hell!!! LOL.

What I don't want to happen is to buy something that will not be usefully integrated down the road in my setup. I am going multiple directions with my believeing from upgrading my current setup to midi-mappable CDJ/mixer route for future versatility (CDJ350/Xone DB2) to pure controller/laptop route (S4, VCI-400, Xone DX - presently dirt cheap) to even just upgrading my mixer to some like a Xone:92 but adding the Contour I/O controller to get the Traktor FX/looping/cue pts while utilizing A&H sound quality and filters.

It is pure hell, I tell you! Especially with new gear coming out all the time (damn you Behringer modular system!).


Summary: I don't want a toy to play with for only a couple months only to upgrade to something else. The Xone K2 would be another choice if it were available, as I could really see using that in future setups.
Cesar Bores
01.02.2012
Originally Posted by Eizhauz
Quick question:
If applying a 2nd set of FX, from what I understand then, I would have to 'shift' to a different layer to access that effect? So for Channel A I will have one set of FX at my disposal, but a 2nd if I dip into a 2nd layer? Do you find this inconvenient, just tedious, or no a problem?
It's really not that bad... just a little annoying, but it completely workable. It gives you access to all 4 effects which most little controllers don't. So its worth the little bit of extra button pushes.

Originally Posted by Eizhauz
My dilemma:
I am in need of upgrading my gear with the intent of getting my feet water in the digital arean. I could remain in the CDJ/DJM workflow as I have a massive CD library, and simply upgrade to midi-cappable CDJ and mixer (A&E preferred). OR I can break in slowly into the digital by getting a dirt cheap single modular controller like the Contour interface version, and run through the mixer, adding to the current workflow. Going digital will require a laptop I can trust MBP, so money would need be spent there, as well as the controller and the TP2 upgrade.
If your planing on going hybrid to start. I would recommend the Reloop Contour with the Audio I/O. This unit would just plug right into your DJM along with your CDJ. The unit comes with Traktor LE which is upgradeable for free to Traktor 2.1.1 LE from Reloop's support/community page. That would be enough for you to get started and you could upgrade later. As for the Laptop... This is important, unless what you have is way out of date you can start with what you have and upgrade later. I use a desktop at the moment cause I haven't upgraded my laptop yet. I'm just mixing at home right now so a desktop will do.

This is my second time of moving to Digital mixing. I started out with just vinyl back in 1995, started using Final Scratch in 2003, quit DJing in 2007 after the "Rave Act" made finding a gig impossible. Started getting back into it last year after seeing what guys like Ean were doing. This time I'm going completely controller. The flexibility and creativity of what you can do with Traktor and controllers is what I have always tried to do from the start. I have used every piece of gear you can believe of, from Turntables, to CDJ. I was even using Guitar effects before Pioneer came out with their effect mixers. The old ways do have there advantages like when you go to a gig you just need your Records and CD's because the gear is already there. But being able to bring your entire library, and having the flexibility of Traktor (or something like it) in one bag. Trust me you would leave the old way behind too.

But to make a long story short :P... Try out the Contour with your current setup and see if it flows for you. It will give you a chance to get your feet wet in Traktor without spending to much and in a environment that your already comfortable with.
Juliette Vensel
01.02.2012
Wow... this is MOST appreciated!

Your mapping sounds like it would be most worthwhile as eventually 4-decks is the intended use.

Quick question:
If applying a 2nd set of FX, from what I understand then, I would have to 'shift' to a different layer to access that effect? So for Channel A I will have one set of FX at my disposal, but a 2nd if I dip into a 2nd layer? Do you find this inconvenient, just tedious, or no a problem?

My dilemma:
I am in need of upgrading my gear with the intent of getting my feet water in the digital arean. I could remain in the CDJ/DJM workflow as I have a massive CD library, and simply upgrade to midi-cappable CDJ and mixer (A&E preferred). OR I can break in slowly into the digital by getting a dirt cheap single modular controller like the Contour interface version, and run through the mixer, adding to the current workflow. Going digital will require a laptop I can trust MBP, so money would need be spent there, as well as the controller and the TP2 upgrade.

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