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"Trap for the masses" - What is that exactly?
Posted on: 25.06.2012 by Jerica Salava
I looked it up and it says it is Southern Style rap that you listen to in jail (THE TRAP).

What the hell is this ?:

http://soundcloud.com/munchi_productions/sets/munchi-rotterdam-trap-ep/

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King Kunzmann
07.07.2012
Originally Posted by rdale
What I like about is the different influences, some tracks having a bouncy booty house bassline, others with a glitchy feel and lots of fun rap. It has a tempo to mix with dubstep at will and makes for a nice break from the wub wub of brostep. Over all I approve, and am going to be putting more in my collection.

I hope that is enough of an analysis, I would like to go back to sharing tracks and producers so I can appreciate the genre more.
+1 on all fronts
Freida Leash
07.07.2012
Originally Posted by Shane Says
I don't really see the comparison to grime. Got any examples?
They are both cross pollinated from many influences with rap being a primary one. Grime I guess would be more garage, dance hall, rap and electro. Trap seems to have a heavy dirty south rap, acid breaks/electro and sometimes dubstep and booty house influence. A track that crosses in between for me at least I mentioned earlier in the thread http://soundcloud.com/ruff-step-fell...cal-djs-sinner I believe the difference in flavor is the side of the pond you are on... they kind of overlap for me in structure and form.

I'm really liking the way things being called trap are developing in a bunch of different ways, it is nice to see something without rigid boundaries and not being broke apart into serious sub-category of genre, any kind of luck and it will stay that way for a bit.
Carlee Newhoff
07.07.2012		Opposite ends of the spectrum





I know this is a stretch but does anyone know the origins of the dopeman beat? It was originally on a Gangsta Grillz mixtape so I'm assuming it is someone else's song. I would kill for that instrumental.
Salvatore Husley
07.07.2012		I don't really see the comparison to grime. Got any examples?
Tina Must
07.07.2012		i believe its similar to foggy swamp style
Freida Leash
07.07.2012		I kind of see trap as american grime, after some digging and coming to appreciate it. It often has electro, house, and rap influences. What I like about is the different influences, some tracks having a bouncy booty house bassline, others with a glitchy feel and lots of fun rap. It has a tempo to mix with dubstep at will and makes for a nice break from the wub wub of brostep. Over all I approve, and am going to be putting more in my collection.

I hope that is enough of an analysis, I would like to go back to sharing tracks and producers so I can appreciate the genre more.
Salvatore Husley
07.07.2012		So the point is that trap has splintered off into a new direction? No shit. Because that's what was said several times in the first page. I'm sorry to hear you don't like it. But you don't have to act like a Dick about it. Saying this sounds like a pasty white kid and all that bullshit is really dumb. I got a kick when you tipped your hat when I posted showstoppa right after you said that pasty white shit. Why? Because girl unit is a fair skinned uk artist. He makes as you would say the techy sounding music.

And for the record just because you started the thread doesn't mean you control the flow. You asked what was trap and then we got caught up posting tunes and then you started this "dialogue". I was just trying to keep the thread going without people arguing like children.

So how to move on from here? Post some tunes and learn your lesson. You will learn more through the music than through the previous method tried.
Jerica Salava
07.07.2012		if you listen to the posts throughout this thread the musical styles are all over the place. That was my point. And that's fine too. If someone asks "what is house?", the posts would be all over the place. You could say I like tribal tech house. That is more specific. So I say I like southern crunk trap.
Carlee Newhoff
07.07.2012		^ +1

Let's bring the trap back.



Salvatore Husley
07.07.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
Please go back and read this article that Xonetacular posted (first response) which enforces my point.
I don't see your point to be honest. You asked what trap was. We gave you examples. Your point? Or are you talking about when you tried to open the conversation by sounding like you know everything about trap when you clearly don't? All I know is the conversation went south because of your attitude and everyone's lack of knowledge of this genre. Which is why I would rather keep the thread going in a positive direction by posting tracks instead of pretending that we know enough about trap to comment on its roots and where it's going. Also the whole race thing you started throwing into your comments soured any chance of me starting a conversation with you.
Carlee Newhoff
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
"have no awareness of the history of mixtape-dependent, car culture-driven, independent touring circuit history of trap rap."
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This describes you.
Jerica Salava
06.07.2012

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Salvatore Husley
06.07.2012		Here we go again.
Jerica Salava
05.07.2012		Just to get things straight. My original post was aimed to address the characteristics of TRAP. "What is it exactly" Not . Hey Guys let's post our favorite tracks. As we quickly found out, the genre is complicated. Please go back and read this article that Xonetacular posted (first response) which enforces my point: http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/6/1...-l%C5%8Dtic--2

Quoted form article: "Houston-born, Berlin-based producer Lōtic isn
Neal Brazzle
05.07.2012		just uploaded a quick 20 minute mini mix of some of my favourite trap shit

http://soundcloud.com/drrrracula/20minuteminimix

follow and download if you enjoy
Carlee Newhoff
04.07.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
I'm not attacking the genre, just pointing out an observation. Maybe it's so new that it's looking for a path?

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It's not that new buddy. I've been listening to "trap" since 2006. The reason for "annoying" synths is since EDM artists have started making it recently and its not intended to be rapped over. Fitting heavy synth melodies under vocals won't sit right in the mix most often. If you want "straight ghetto" you'll have trouble finding it since the guys who make it have a tight grip on those beats and don't readily give them away.
Joselyn Supina
04.07.2012		I'd imagine most peeps on this site aren't fans of Diplo, but I love me some Sleigh Bells, so I'll add this track...

http://soundcloud.com/diplo/sleigh-bells-demons-diplo
Salvatore Husley
03.07.2012		The analysis of trap in this thread isn't working. So let's just stick to sharing some tracks.
Jerica Salava
03.07.2012
Originally Posted by Shane Says
Let's not ruin the thread. Just stick to posting tracks or GTFO.
I will exit my thread so you kids can have fun. When you want to discuss music on an analytical level I'll be around.

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Salvatore Husley
03.07.2012		Let's not ruin the thread. Just stick to posting tracks or GTFO.
Jerica Salava
03.07.2012		and here you go Mr. Trap:



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Jerica Salava
03.07.2012
Originally Posted by dwdbmills
Noooo don't pass it up just because OP doesn't know what he's talking about.
thanks Mr. Trap. Apparently no one knows why sometimes trap contains annoying synths and sounds tech and other times it's straight ghetto and sounds street. Apparently you could answer why the producers themselves are confused and call it trap, hype, swag, and glitch.

oh yeah and I forgot about grime too.

I'm not attacking the genre, just pointing out an observation. Maybe it's so new that it's looking for a path?

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Salvatore Husley
03.07.2012		That second track on the mix.....
TUUUUUNNNNNEEEE
Freida Leash
03.07.2012		It might be a grime track, but it is hitting me hard in this vein, http://soundcloud.com/ruff-step-fell...cal-djs-sinner the part of the rhyme where he says, "People say you only use 10% of your brain, well I only use 6, otherwise I would be levitating shit" The production under the accapella is great.

Also hitting hard on my trap radar is this mini mix http://soundcloud.com/maskuerade/runthetrap
Carlee Newhoff
01.07.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
I thought this sound had a bit of something interesting about it. Then I see guys like you are all over it with the moron statements so I believe I'll give it a miss.
Noooo don't pass it up just because OP doesn't know what he's talking about.
Roseanna Signorini
01.07.2012		I actually found this the other day before I saw the thread and just realized why its the trapstorm remix, thought I would post for you guys...

http://soundcloud.com/djmattblaze/darude-sandstorm-oh-snap
Jerica Salava
01.07.2012		kisses XoXo
Johnetta Olewine
01.07.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
great comeback. you come out of nowhere with a stupid comment on me and that's what you got? I am adding opinions chief. Why don't you try it sometime.
I thought this sound had a bit of something interesting about it. Then I see guys like you are all over it with the moron statements so I believe I'll give it a miss.
Jerica Salava
30.06.2012		great comeback. you come out of nowhere with a stupid comment on me and that's what you got? I am adding opinions chief. Why don't you try it sometime.
Lela Umanskaya
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
you must love David Guetta then. Thank him when you go on your next date.

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This completely validates everything you have said in this thread...
Jerica Salava
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
I also hate when people blend genres. Animals I say...
you must love David Guetta then. Thank him when you go on your next date.

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Lela Umanskaya
30.06.2012		I also hate when people blend genres. Animals I say...
Jerica Salava
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by dwdbmills
You just found out about trap and are claiming it is having an identity crisis?! And UZ makes some of the realest trap of any of these guys imo, its pure, no bullshit trap music.
Some of it sounds like moombahton with a crunk beat instead of a reggaeton beat. I don't like moombahton, so therefore I don't like that trippy tech trap. But some of the tracks are just crunked with the right amount of synth to make it bang. That's the confusion. I blame Diplo. I believe he has an identity crisis.

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Carlee Newhoff
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by Shane Says
I appreciate some dro carey in this thread, it seems a lot of future beat producers are making trap too lately, I am trying to find this track I heard the other day from +verb (I believe) it was dope, but I can't remember the name

I didn't look very hard, here it is.

http://soundcloud.com/verb-1/deflect

+verb actually makes quite a bit of trap i guess
Salvatore Husley
01.07.2012
Originally Posted by dwdbmills
You just found out about trap and are claiming it is having an identity crisis?! And UZ makes some of the realest trap of any of these guys imo, its pure, no bullshit trap music.
lol
Jerica Salava
01.07.2012		That UZ track has wack ass hats. That's all i'm saying. 90% of the other tracks on this thread are slammin'. I'll go listen to some more UZ tracks and see what's up.
Carlee Newhoff
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
I believe trap has an identity crisis. Cause I ain't diggin' these bleepy techy tracks. too white. I need it crunk. The sounds are wack and the beats are weak. These tracks sound like pasty white dudes that can't dance made them. The hats on that UZ track sound like he moused through the 32 notes on FL Studio at random.
You just found out about trap and are claiming it is having an identity crisis?! And UZ makes some of the realest trap of any of these guys imo, its pure, no bullshit trap music.
Roseanna Signorini
30.06.2012		Im diggin this stuff...its dirty, makes your head bob, first song that popped into my head that it reminds me of is David Banner "Like a pimp" and believe it or not Kesha "Sleazy". Lke anything there will be good and bad and some songs do sound a little toooo "manufctured" for me but from a lot of what I have heard I can see this genre making some noise.....
King Kunzmann
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by loverocket
good stuff. that's what I'm talking about. He took LANA DEL REY (pasty hipster) and dropped her in the ghetto.
Exactly, this stuff is pretty incredible.


Originally Posted by hammuh
http://soundcloud.com/salva/mercy-rl-grime-salva-rmx
Have you tried letting the intro play in, then dropping the actual Mercy along with it simultaneously? absolutely ridiculous
Sima Schukei
30.06.2012		 http://soundcloud.com/salva/mercy-rl-grime-salva-rmx

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