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Traktor Z1 Posted on: 11.06.2013 by Janella Gripe http://www.djranking s.com/2013/06/1...raktor-dj-pro/
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 No, you wouldn't. Noone uses cheap knockoff sound cards for a gig. Some gear may be generic OEM rebadged from China but decent manufacturers actually design their own products. Also not all gear is made in China. CDJs and DJMs are made in Malaysia for example. The cheap cloned adapters are obviously not made in the same factories which is why there is a significant delay in their release after the official product, and why quality is severely lacking. I don't believe you can tar them ALL with the same brush, because there is some very, VERY good Chinese unbranded hardware out there. On the upside, at least the only charger to beat the Apple stuff is the Touchpad charger that I have TWO of behind my monitor Touchpad.jpg
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Would you ever buy a Chinese cloned sound card as part of your setup? There's a DAC in the Lightning-30pin adapter too. Of course. They're ALL built in China anyway, usually by the same factories.
Alphonso Deitchman 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by markage I cheaped out on buying an iPhone car charger on eBay and it almost fried my phone. I never made that mistake again. The Apple brand chargers in particular get excellent feedback, based on how clean and consistent the output power is viewed through an oscilloscope. Would you ever buy a Chinese cloned sound card as part of your setup? There's a DAC in the Lightning-30pin adapter too.
Florene Tolo 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 There seem to be plenty of adapter clones on Ebay? I wouldn't trust them though, based on the amount of electronics that go into the Apple adapter (which also explains the cost). Yeah, you don't want to cheap out on something that you depend on to work during a set. It's just not worth it when it's one of the cheapest parts of your setup. I cheaped out on buying an iPhone car charger on eBay and it almost fried my phone. I never made that mistake again.
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 There seem to be plenty of adapter clones on Ebay? I wouldn't trust them though, based on the amount of electronics that go into the Apple adapter (which also explains the cost). I meant clone the ICs as well. That's the problem with the current Chinese clones, they're all "no analog or USB audio/video". Jesus Christ China, it's not hard... take an Apple adapter, decap the ICs, stick 'em under a scanning electron microscope, and manufacture copies. Even if they sold them at $15 a pop, they'd still make a KILLING.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by thejameskendall Oh well, it's only money. I'm afraid so...
Lenard Yorita 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos BTW - It is clearly stated on the Z1 product page that the Apple 30pin convertor is required for iPad4/Mini. This should not be a surprise to anyone (even though it is annoying). I wish I'd have thought about this properly and mentally added an extra
nayit ruiz jaramillo 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by thejameskendall I can confirm that this doesn't work. We're gonna have to buy a converter which is really quite annoying. Please, what ever you do just buy the Official Apple Convertor. A HUGE percentage of the 3rd party 30pin to lightening convertors do NOT pass audio & power and this is proved time and time again over at the NI community . As much as they are, the Apple convertors are worth the money. Bad cheap, Buy twice. BTW - It is clearly stated on the Z1 product page that the Apple 30pin convertor is required for iPad4/Mini. This should not be a surprise to anyone (even though it is annoying). .........And for the love of GOD can people stop recommending that different methods of converting 30pin to lightening work because they don't. Period.
Brendan Andrascik 02.08.2013	I just received my Z1 and was quite disappointed when I found out that the filter knob didn't control the FX on Traktor Pro like the Traktor DJ demonstration video(!?). So I mapped that feature right away. https://maps.djranking s.com/mappings/1789
Contessa Atanasoff 21.07.2013	I was believeing about getting this to pair with my s2, since I hate being restricted to 2 decks, but I decided to just upgrade to the S4 instead Still a great product though!
Alphonso Deitchman 20.07.2013	How is that your upside? A main brand charger performed well - much better than the knockoffs. There is of course decent hardware out there, but mainly in original products rather than knockoffs. Your unbranded RCA connectors from China didn't make it so far despite your initial reassurances.
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 No, you wouldn't. Noone uses cheap knockoff sound cards for a gig. Some gear may be generic OEM rebadged from China but decent manufacturers actually design their own products. Also not all gear is made in China. CDJs and DJMs are made in Malaysia for example. The cheap cloned adapters are obviously not made in the same factories which is why there is a significant delay in their release after the official product, and why quality is severely lacking. I don't believe you can tar them ALL with the same brush, because there is some very, VERY good Chinese unbranded hardware out there. On the upside, at least the only charger to beat the Apple stuff is the Touchpad charger that I have TWO of behind my monitor Touchpad.jpg
Alphonso Deitchman 19.07.2013	No, you wouldn't. Noone uses cheap knockoff sound cards for a gig. Some gear may be generic OEM rebadged from China but decent manufacturers actually design their own products. Also not all gear is made in China. CDJs and DJMs are made in Malaysia for example. The cheap cloned adapters are obviously not made in the same factories which is why there is a significant delay in their release after the official product, and why quality is severely lacking.
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Would you ever buy a Chinese cloned sound card as part of your setup? There's a DAC in the Lightning-30pin adapter too. Of course. They're ALL built in China anyway, usually by the same factories.
Alphonso Deitchman 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by markage I cheaped out on buying an iPhone car charger on eBay and it almost fried my phone. I never made that mistake again. The Apple brand chargers in particular get excellent feedback, based on how clean and consistent the output power is viewed through an oscilloscope. Would you ever buy a Chinese cloned sound card as part of your setup? There's a DAC in the Lightning-30pin adapter too.
Florene Tolo 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 There seem to be plenty of adapter clones on Ebay? I wouldn't trust them though, based on the amount of electronics that go into the Apple adapter (which also explains the cost). Yeah, you don't want to cheap out on something that you depend on to work during a set. It's just not worth it when it's one of the cheapest parts of your setup. I cheaped out on buying an iPhone car charger on eBay and it almost fried my phone. I never made that mistake again.
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 There seem to be plenty of adapter clones on Ebay? I wouldn't trust them though, based on the amount of electronics that go into the Apple adapter (which also explains the cost). I meant clone the ICs as well. That's the problem with the current Chinese clones, they're all "no analog or USB audio/video". Jesus Christ China, it's not hard... take an Apple adapter, decap the ICs, stick 'em under a scanning electron microscope, and manufacture copies. Even if they sold them at $15 a pop, they'd still make a KILLING.
Alphonso Deitchman 19.07.2013	There seem to be plenty of adapter clones on Ebay? I wouldn't trust them though, based on the amount of electronics that go into the Apple adapter (which also explains the cost).
Doreen Schurle 19.07.2013	EDIT: Oops, gimme a few minutes. EDIT2: The fact that China can't clone these things is MENTAL.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by thejameskendall Oh well, it's only money. I'm afraid so...
Lenard Yorita 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos BTW - It is clearly stated on the Z1 product page that the Apple 30pin convertor is required for iPad4/Mini. This should not be a surprise to anyone (even though it is annoying). I wish I'd have thought about this properly and mentally added an extra
nayit ruiz jaramillo 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by thejameskendall I can confirm that this doesn't work. We're gonna have to buy a converter which is really quite annoying. Please, what ever you do just buy the Official Apple Convertor. A HUGE percentage of the 3rd party 30pin to lightening convertors do NOT pass audio & power and this is proved time and time again over at the NI community . As much as they are, the Apple convertors are worth the money. Bad cheap, Buy twice. BTW - It is clearly stated on the Z1 product page that the Apple 30pin convertor is required for iPad4/Mini. This should not be a surprise to anyone (even though it is annoying). .........And for the love of GOD can people stop recommending that different methods of converting 30pin to lightening work because they don't. Period.
Lenard Yorita 19.07.2013	Originally Posted by Sleurhutje This simple adapter does the trick for using the stock lightning cable to the Z1. http://dx.com/p/usb-female-to-printe...onverter-28986 That one works as well. It's just a converter from USB-A to USB-B. Same wiring, other layout of the plug. There are no electronics in these adapters. I can confirm that this doesn't work. We're gonna have to buy a converter which is really quite annoying.
Olin Easley 17.07.2013	They're two really different controllers. If you want a cheap, small controller entirely for internal mixing get Z1. If you want to control the decks with the possibility of doing some internal mixing (I reckon that would be a bit uncomfortable, though), get K2.
Brendan Andrascik 17.07.2013	I'm really tempted of getting one of these, but Xone K2 still looks much more functional.. Any body tried both units, how do they compare?
nayit ruiz jaramillo 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Has anyone tested using one of these adapters along with a standard USB-Lightning cable? I'll try in the morning. I'd be surprised if it works (as you say, has anyone ACTUALLY tried it, not just assuming).
Alphonso Deitchman 15.07.2013	There is a significant difference in electronics between Lightning and 30-pin though. Edit: Here's what the inside of the Lightning to 30 pin adapter looks like: http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/news/ch...s-used-inside/
Alberta Oberti 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Has anyone tested using one of these adapters along with a standard USB-Lightning cable? These do work fine. Like said, there's no electronics involved. Only a change for connector type. USB-A is the flat connector type, USB-B is the square one mainly used on older peripheral devices like printers. They both got the same wires (0V, +5V, D+ and D-). Unlike the mini-USB or micro-USB where there is an additional wire for manufacturer specific functions.
Alphonso Deitchman 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by Sleurhutje This simple adapter does the trick for using the stock lightning cable to the Z1. http://dx.com/p/usb-female-to-printe...onverter-28986 That one works as well. It's just a converter from USB-A to USB-B. Same wiring, other layout of the plug. There are no electronics in these adapters. Has anyone tested using one of these adapters along with a standard USB-Lightning cable?
Alberta Oberti 15.07.2013	This simple adapter does the trick for using the stock lightning cable to the Z1. http://dx.com/p/usb-female-to-printe...onverter-28986 Originally Posted by Eggman anyone know if this will work for the Z1 so I can use my lightning adapter? That one works as well. It's just a converter from USB-A to USB-B. Same wiring, other layout of the plug. There are no electronics in these adapters.
Larita Smaga 09.07.2013	Hey guys, I've just posted a video to YouTube showing a walkthrough of the Z1 with both Traktor Pro and Traktor DJ, with screen recordings on the Mac and the iPad to give you an idea of how simple this thing is to use! Hope some of you might find it interesting. Cheers!
Keneth Kieltyka 08.07.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 You need to use the included 30-pin cable along with a Lightning-30pin adapter afaik. Using a camera connection kit may work for audio but not the controller features. Sorry I meant lightning cable, so i can use that adapter in the link I posted
Gaynell Rydberg 08.07.2013	My Guitar Center had the Z1 weeks ago.
Rosina Steinkuehler 08.07.2013	Originally Posted by djspacecamp There's about 70 of them sitting a few feet behind me in DJTT HQ... They're available in the store: https://store.djranking s.com/produc...tor-kontrol-z1 Looked over the weekend and did not see it. I clicked your link and receive a error: "Application Error An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. Please try again in a few moments. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details." EDIT: page is working now!!
Xavier Ponce 08.07.2013	Originally Posted by GeekGod Slightly annoying that nobody is stocking the Z1 here yet. Amazon just added but 1-2 day delay and Guitar Center can 'order' it but not stocking it as of yet. Anyone pick one up online? There's about 70 of them sitting a few feet behind me in DJTT HQ... They're available in the store: https://store.djranking s.com/produc...tor-kontrol-z1
Rosina Steinkuehler 08.07.2013	Slightly annoying that nobody is stocking the Z1 here yet. Amazon just added but 1-2 day delay and Guitar Center can 'order' it but not stocking it as of yet. Anyone pick one up online?
Alphonso Deitchman 08.07.2013	You need to use the included 30-pin cable along with a Lightning-30pin adapter afaik. Using a camera connection kit may work for audio but not the controller features.
Keneth Kieltyka 07.07.2013	anyone know if this will work for the Z1 so I can use my lightning adapter? model number- G08-209FM http://www.microconnectors.com/servl...-A-Type/Detail
Adrian Zadrozny 07.07.2013	This would be nice for the dreaded top-40 gigs. Lugging the DJM-850 to those is honestly overkill. Lulz.
Doreen Schurle 06.07.2013	Oh so now it's only TWO fiddy?! What is there, a sale on monster munchies?!

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