What % of Ableton DJ's mime?
What % of Ableton DJ's mime? Posted on: 17.08.2013 by Bryon Niccoli Saw a pair of Ableton DJ's last evening
do the odd bit of 'miming'. Silly things like pretend to turn on basslines with the EQ's, when clearly their laptop wasn't wired up to the mixer anyway. And it's not as if a producer is ever going to release a tune where a DJ is going to have to trigger an integral part of the track every 2 bars by twisting the bass dial to 4 O'clock (in real life that might blow the speakers!), because that would be an unfinished song. I'm not hating on Ableton Live users because they don't beatmatch, after all it's still an improvised DJ set. But this comedic miming further confuses people as to what a DJ really does. So, how often do you see this in clubs, and if you're an Ableton user are you guilty of it? | |
| Libbie Orion 20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
ok im done now lol |
| Rufus Ondrick 20.08.2013 | the general crowd does not really care what DJ's do as they are too busy having fun/getting drunk etc. they do not know what he's doing, how he is doing it and why because they do not know what a DJ actually does unless a good majority of them understand how DJ's work and how to operate DJ gear then they will care what he is doing. believe of it this way if the DJTT community was the audience i'm sure miming DJ's will not be something that would be tolerated, but for the general non-DJ public im sure they dont give a rats ass what you do as a DJ as long as you get them pumping. im not contradicting professional DJ's who actually do their shit or DJ's who mime just voicing out my opinion |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by antifmradio
**tounge firmly in cheek and waiting for the avalanche on this one |
| Libbie Orion 19.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Panotaker
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| Izola Larose 19.08.2013 | |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 19.08.2013 |
Don't forget - Ableton DJ's can have a LOT of shit going on. I have templates that require A LOT of knob turning BEFORE you can even hear anything happening in the mix.
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| Brunilda Kora 19.08.2013 | Don't forget - Ableton DJ's can have a LOT of shit going on. I have templates that require A LOT of knob turning BEFORE you can even hear anything happening in the mix. In Ableton, the CHAIN SELECTOR rules all. MACRO's are also AWESOME. Knobs assigned to either of these may not have an effect on the audio - but may be setting up for some fuckingawesomejiggerypokerymagic... |
| Bryon Niccoli 19.08.2013 | I wish people would stop looking at the DJ and just dance, but unfortunately this has been going on for years and apart from clubs having the DJ booth hidden from prying eyes this is unlikely to change anytime soon. The music wasn't to my taste but the crowd liked it, most weren't looking at the DJ so the fake EQing thing was totally unnecessary. |
| Dia Laryea 19.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Panotaker
As for OP, I know only one guy who DJ's with Ableton and he was regarded by our newspaper as the #1 DJ of (our area here). His gear consists of a 13" Macbook Pro and a ZeRO SL MKII. |
| Michell Wehrmeyer 19.08.2013 | Exactly 35.872% of Ableton DJs mime. |
| Yong Aptekar 18.08.2013 | Aaaaaaand get drunk... |
| Margie Pavell 18.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Panotaker
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| Vallie Pac 18.08.2013 | I go to clubs to look at the girls, not the DJ. |
| Brunilda Kora 18.08.2013 |
its a pathetic DJ thing
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| Nelle Maisel 18.08.2013 | I've played back to back with another DJ (both using S2s and Traktor) before and watched him twist knobs and throw faders when I was mixing and he was off. I believe its a pathetic DJ thing more than a software thing. |
| Bryon Niccoli 18.08.2013 | No this was definitely 'miming', they weren't doing loops or re-edits. Just DJing in the traditional manner, one track into another like you would on two decks & a mixer, albeit without a mixer and on Ableton Live. The EQuing was blatant false showmanship on their part. I suppose it's all part in parcel of DJ's unfortunately being something the crowd looks at, so without the physical demands of 90 seconds beatmatching and cueing a record back & forth they feel they have to do something to 'justify' their presence on the 'stage' by faking it. It should all be about the music IMO. It's not something I've seen before so I was wondering how common it is. And this is in England. No doubt theres parts of the world where its more common. |
| Jeffrey Akinsanya 17.08.2013 | i presume they had some sort of soundcard connected to the mixer, 1 of the wires might of been a connecting to the mixer.. might of been a midi mixer? might not of been a track could of be sounds produced on the fly live. if it was just a track then imo ableton sets take alot of prep prior, beat gridding takes practice, 4 x 4 is easy but anything with a off beat or breaks can be more taxing. its defo a skill you learn. |
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