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Ming Devis 03.10.2013	Originally Posted by rdej47 That's what I originally meant. They want the laptop they just don't want to constantly refer to it. I agree with you Karlos I don't believe laptops will go away anytime soon, I'm just eagerly awaiting the day when Traktor becomes more like Maschine, where all the info you need to know is available on the hardware while the software just hums along on the laptop. Hell even something as simple as the loop indicator saves me from having to look at the laptop as much. This ^ It would be awesome having those screens built into a midi controller with cdj style jogs for Traktor. Make the pitch fader a high res touch strip and have it switchable between decks. Laptop screens are bigger and better but only when you are in a booth with enough room.
Johnsie Kingrea 03.10.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos I believe what they are referring to here is the need to have the laptop right in front of you because you needed to use the keyboard to load, cue, browse etc. Having a controller means less taping on the keyboard but the laptop is still important, it can just be put to one side now because you don't need to fiddle with it as much. I believe people are getting way ahead of themselves believeing that the hardware is gonna get so advanced that the need for a laptop id redundant. This is still quite a long way off in my opinion. I always believe that the next steps discussed on this community are often the steps after the next steps. I guess thats the nature of a forward believeing community ... no bad thing... just a bit optimistic. That's what I originally meant. They want the laptop they just don't want to constantly refer to it. I agree with you Karlos I don't believe laptops will go away anytime soon, I'm just eagerly awaiting the day when Traktor becomes more like Maschine, where all the info you need to know is available on the hardware while the software just hums along on the laptop. Hell even something as simple as the loop indicator saves me from having to look at the laptop as much.
Ervin Calvery 02.10.2013	Originally Posted by ReggieUK Karlos, that's twice today, sorry buddy :-) I believe it was an interesting discussion about the merits of all of the things that we covet as audio technicians, whether it's controllerists, djs, cdjs, musicians, artists, producers, we all want an easy time that allows the creativity to flow. And the maschine seems to be closing that gap. 8GB of storage and 2 LCDs tells me that they're already sticking reasonable quality hardware inside it :-) It's library is 8 GB - I don't believe it has any storage, much less 8 GB of it.
Ervin Calvery 02.10.2013	Originally Posted by Oevl In addition to the MIDI thing, you have to consider that : [B]Cue Bus. No more auditioning samples as you play live (eep!). You can now route to a cue bus. Rad.
Rolanda Clodfelder 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos I believe what they are referring to here is the need to have the laptop right in front of you because you needed to use the keyboard to load, cue, browse etc. Having a controller means less taping on the keyboard but the laptop is still important, it can just be put to one side now because you don't need to fiddle with it as much. I believe people are getting way ahead of themselves believeing that the hardware is gonna get so advanced that the need for a laptop id redundant. This is still quite a long way off in my opinion. I always believe that the next steps discussed on this community are often the steps after the next steps. I guess thats the nature of a forward believeing community ... no bad thing... just a bit optimistic. There's no reason that an all-in-one unit with speedy processor/Ram/Stripped down (non-windows) OS and well coded software/firmware could and should be built at this stage (IMHO). Same goes for Traktor/Serato ....Screw all this swapping/plugging in boxes to laptops bullshit and create an entire ecosystem around it.
Rebbecca Fennell 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by m3ta Yup. They sure have: "MASCHINE STUDIO
nayit ruiz jaramillo 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by rdej47 I'm sure that NI endorsed artists have been vocal about the fact that they want to avoid the laptop altogether. Any video that you watch of DJ Shiftee and Craze they always try keep the laptop off to the side. Don't get me wrong I love Traktor but the more information and feedback they can give you through the gear the better. It's win/win, you get to really dive into your gear and your audience doesn't believe you're just geeking it up on the laptop. Watch the amount of artists in this video from 2010 who specifically mention they don't like having to go to the laptop. I believe what they are referring to here is the need to have the laptop right in front of you because you needed to use the keyboard to load, cue, browse etc. Having a controller means less taping on the keyboard but the laptop is still important, it can just be put to one side now because you don't need to fiddle with it as much. I believe people are getting way ahead of themselves believeing that the hardware is gonna get so advanced that the need for a laptop id redundant. This is still quite a long way off in my opinion. I always believe that the next steps discussed on this community are often the steps after the next steps. I guess thats the nature of a forward believeing community ... no bad thing... just a bit optimistic.
Ervin Calvery 04.10.2013	Just FYI - we're giving one away at maschinemasters.com.
Olimpia Briden 03.10.2013	480x272 makes them about as good as a PSP (original) screen, they look about 4.3" in size, they'll be adequate.
Ervin Calvery 03.10.2013	OK - The "extra-large, high resolution" screens look really pretty on NI's site - but how good or bad are they really, at 272 x 480?
Ming Devis 03.10.2013	Originally Posted by rdej47 That's what I originally meant. They want the laptop they just don't want to constantly refer to it. I agree with you Karlos I don't believe laptops will go away anytime soon, I'm just eagerly awaiting the day when Traktor becomes more like Maschine, where all the info you need to know is available on the hardware while the software just hums along on the laptop. Hell even something as simple as the loop indicator saves me from having to look at the laptop as much. This ^ It would be awesome having those screens built into a midi controller with cdj style jogs for Traktor. Make the pitch fader a high res touch strip and have it switchable between decks. Laptop screens are bigger and better but only when you are in a booth with enough room.
Johnsie Kingrea 03.10.2013	I really believe the all-in-one hardware solution is a bad idea, especially for a DJ gear. It only makes the development process more complicated because now they have to factor in additional components for the hardware. What about feature upgrades? While i'm sure you could upgrade the firmware or onboard OS I doubt you'd be getting features like more fx, remix decks, flux mode. What if you decide you like the software but not the hardware? You can't just switch to a different midi controller.
Johnsie Kingrea 03.10.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos I believe what they are referring to here is the need to have the laptop right in front of you because you needed to use the keyboard to load, cue, browse etc. Having a controller means less taping on the keyboard but the laptop is still important, it can just be put to one side now because you don't need to fiddle with it as much. I believe people are getting way ahead of themselves believeing that the hardware is gonna get so advanced that the need for a laptop id redundant. This is still quite a long way off in my opinion. I always believe that the next steps discussed on this community are often the steps after the next steps. I guess thats the nature of a forward believeing community ... no bad thing... just a bit optimistic. That's what I originally meant. They want the laptop they just don't want to constantly refer to it. I agree with you Karlos I don't believe laptops will go away anytime soon, I'm just eagerly awaiting the day when Traktor becomes more like Maschine, where all the info you need to know is available on the hardware while the software just hums along on the laptop. Hell even something as simple as the loop indicator saves me from having to look at the laptop as much.
Olimpia Briden 02.10.2013	Ahh, I am no longer as impressed as I was with it then
Ervin Calvery 02.10.2013	Originally Posted by ReggieUK Karlos, that's twice today, sorry buddy :-) I believe it was an interesting discussion about the merits of all of the things that we covet as audio technicians, whether it's controllerists, djs, cdjs, musicians, artists, producers, we all want an easy time that allows the creativity to flow. And the maschine seems to be closing that gap. 8GB of storage and 2 LCDs tells me that they're already sticking reasonable quality hardware inside it :-) It's library is 8 GB - I don't believe it has any storage, much less 8 GB of it.
Olimpia Briden 02.10.2013	Karlos, that's twice today, sorry buddy :-) I believe it was an interesting discussion about the merits of all of the things that we covet as audio technicians, whether it's controllerists, djs, cdjs, musicians, artists, producers, we all want an easy time that allows the creativity to flow. And the maschine seems to be closing that gap. 8GB of storage and 2 LCDs tells me that they're already sticking reasonable quality hardware inside it :-)
Ervin Calvery 02.10.2013	Originally Posted by Oevl In addition to the MIDI thing, you have to consider that : [B]Cue Bus. No more auditioning samples as you play live (eep!). You can now route to a cue bus. Rad.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 02.10.2013	When I said people are getting ahead of themselves I was referring to that previous YouTube video and specifically Traktor dude. Getting ahead of ourselves is what we do on this community ,I know that but in the case of Traktor we are not on the cusp of a hardware only solution regardless of how possible it is. Anyhoo this thread is about Maschine, kinda wandered off.
Olimpia Briden 02.10.2013	I don't believe anyone is getting ahead of themselves with wanting all of the hardware in a single box and not needing a laptop, it's gone full circle, the hardware to do all of this stuff is available, it's just going to cost some money and needs re-developing. I remember Yamaha 02r and 01v digital mixers from 1995/6, ok they cost a few thousand dollars back then but the technology for doing this stuff has been around for forever. Interestingly both of those mixers are still being bought and sold on ebay, yamaha were also doing soundcards that cost 4-5 hundred pounds each, the ds2416 card they did had 16 channels, 2 effects units, parametric eq on each channel, low/high pass filters etc. It was essentially an 01v on a soundcard. There was room in the market for both :-)
Kellie Myrum 02.10.2013	Pre-orders available at DJTT store: https://store.djranking s.com/products/maschine-studio
Ellsworth Moroni 02.10.2013	In addition to the MIDI thing, you have to consider that : Cue Bus. No more auditioning samples as you play live (eep!). You can now route to a cue bus. (Sadly, not from the mixer yet, but this is still useful.) Which is kinda what you need when you do DJ stuff, so, Traktor integration may be not so far away
Rolanda Clodfelder 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos I believe what they are referring to here is the need to have the laptop right in front of you because you needed to use the keyboard to load, cue, browse etc. Having a controller means less taping on the keyboard but the laptop is still important, it can just be put to one side now because you don't need to fiddle with it as much. I believe people are getting way ahead of themselves believeing that the hardware is gonna get so advanced that the need for a laptop id redundant. This is still quite a long way off in my opinion. I always believe that the next steps discussed on this community are often the steps after the next steps. I guess thats the nature of a forward believeing community ... no bad thing... just a bit optimistic. There's no reason that an all-in-one unit with speedy processor/Ram/Stripped down (non-windows) OS and well coded software/firmware could and should be built at this stage (IMHO). Same goes for Traktor/Serato ....Screw all this swapping/plugging in boxes to laptops bullshit and create an entire ecosystem around it.
Rebbecca Fennell 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by m3ta Yup. They sure have: "MASCHINE STUDIO
nayit ruiz jaramillo 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by rdej47 I'm sure that NI endorsed artists have been vocal about the fact that they want to avoid the laptop altogether. Any video that you watch of DJ Shiftee and Craze they always try keep the laptop off to the side. Don't get me wrong I love Traktor but the more information and feedback they can give you through the gear the better. It's win/win, you get to really dive into your gear and your audience doesn't believe you're just geeking it up on the laptop. Watch the amount of artists in this video from 2010 who specifically mention they don't like having to go to the laptop. I believe what they are referring to here is the need to have the laptop right in front of you because you needed to use the keyboard to load, cue, browse etc. Having a controller means less taping on the keyboard but the laptop is still important, it can just be put to one side now because you don't need to fiddle with it as much. I believe people are getting way ahead of themselves believeing that the hardware is gonna get so advanced that the need for a laptop id redundant. This is still quite a long way off in my opinion. I always believe that the next steps discussed on this community are often the steps after the next steps. I guess thats the nature of a forward believeing community ... no bad thing... just a bit optimistic.
Kara Okumoto 01.10.2013	Yup. They sure have: "MASCHINE STUDIO
Rebbecca Fennell 01.10.2013	Looking at it again I'm more tempted by this. Three midi outs I'm hoping that means they finally added some meaningful streamlined means for sequencing of external devices. That alone is why I still keep my mpc around
Leota Dolney 01.10.2013	I, for one, will probably pick one up sometime. I bought a Mikro MK2 a few months ago and love it for portability (making beats & tracks at coffee shop, airport etc.), but was slightly limiting when working at home. I will still use it when I travel, but the Studio looks great for use at home in my studio. I opted against the "regular" Maschine MK2 because I didn't believe it offered enough over the Mikro for what I wanted. It won't be for everybody, but for me, this looks great. I am glad I didn't get the Push or the "regular" Maschine MK2. I like the workflow of Maschine and, frankly, I felt like I wish it was easier to adjust levels etc for arranging; I don't always want to have to switch out to Ableton to do arranging.
Dannie Dimora 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by deevey Still waiting on a dedicated "Traktor OS" machine where the laptop can be ditched completely But that new Maschine looks badass .. much more "future" than the latest MPC's Shame theirs no sound card though That's going to come with the generation after the next-gen traktor controllers (with LCDs controlled via USB by a computer) I believe the first step was IOS integration. Now they could go the numark route and make a glorified iphone/ipod/ipad dock with jogwheels, or actually build a standalone unit. That's entirely up to them.
Rolanda Clodfelder 01.10.2013	Still waiting on a dedicated "Traktor OS" machine where the laptop can be ditched completely But that new Maschine looks badass .. much more "future" than the latest MPC's Shame theirs no sound card though
Lannie Kutay 01.10.2013	damm this is a MPC killer...
Johnsie Kingrea 01.10.2013	I'm sure that NI endorsed artists have been vocal about the fact that they want to avoid the laptop altogether. Any video that you watch of DJ Shiftee and Craze they always try keep the laptop off to the side. Don't get me wrong I love Traktor but the more information and feedback they can give you through the gear the better. It's win/win, you get to really dive into your gear and your audience doesn't believe you're just geeking it up on the laptop. Watch the amount of artists in this video from 2010 who specifically mention they don't like having to go to the laptop.
Dannie Dimora 01.10.2013	And probably, as i predicted, a traktor s8 with LCD displays will follow
Nereida Jasnoch 01.10.2013	Any word on integration with traktor ? A worry free sync would be amazing. Or can you load up traktor as a VST already ?
Delena Katherman 01.10.2013	Originally Posted by b1sh0p You're basically paying double for the color screen, VU meter and a bigger wheel? Meh. If its anything like previous NI VU meters, it's worthless. How is that "double" the price? Isn't Maschine MK2 $600? But, yeah, it's a significant increase. Also, @rdej47: I agree, those displays would be badass in some of their other future hardware versions.
Sonja Roybal 01.10.2013	You're basically paying double for the color screen, VU meter and a bigger wheel? Meh. If its anything like previous NI VU meters, it's worthless.
Johnsie Kingrea 01.10.2013	I gotta say I was pretty surprised at this announcement. I was expecting 2.0 but not more hardware. This is interesting because it shows that NI isn't afraid to step into the court of competitors. I didn't believe they'd make a full size beast to compete with the Renaissance because it would go against their emphasis on portability or that they wouldn't want to diversify the lineup too much. I believe this also means we could still see a Kontrol Z4 (even though people believe they wouldn't try to compete with club standards like Pioneer or A&H). And as mentioned in the DJTT Maschine article it's possible NI could start to place those gorgeous displays onto other products (Kontrol S4 MK3 or Kontrol Z2 MK2). Many being able to browse tracks, browse effects, and see which samples are loaded directly on the unit, i'd cry.
Nedra Fresneda 01.10.2013	Maschine has offline time stretching like most DAWs
Johnsie Kingrea 01.10.2013	http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/1...udio-hardware/ They've got a great write up. Man those displays are gorgeous, i'm still a little choked about no time stretching or audio tracks but it sounds like NI may just ignore the audio tracks altogether. If they were going to do audio tracks the 2.0 update would have been the logical time to do it.
Lillian Morch 01.10.2013
Monserrate Rupnow 01.10.2013	Yeah, still just a controller, no built in soundcard either apparently.

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