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Legality of the Traktor Remix decks
Posted on: 02.06.2012 by Johnsie Kingrea
I was just believeing, how is it possible that the remix decks are legal? Anyone can throw in their own samples and export that remix track and share it with whoever. Just curious.
Arcelia Siebeneck
09.06.2012		sorry to bump this thread but I believe it's an interesting topic.

it seems inevitable that there's gonna be a market/demand for sharing remix sets with other Traktor users.. particularly as NI has made the process of creating and saving the remix sets so easy.

So where do we draw the line, legally speaking?

Are we allowed to share remix sets of copyrighted music? Probably not. But what about creating remix sets from sample clips uploaded by the artists themselves? Or what about creating remix sets from mixes that have been uploaded by the artist, label or other dj's?
Roseanna Signorini
04.06.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Haha I didn't start this thread out of fear. I just find it so crazy that NI has given us the ability to share our remix decks so easily with others. You could literally build an entire library of remix tracks if there was a place where people could post and share them.

I guess i'm just looking at the irony of some people in the music industry who are going to try and stop sharing and downloading when we have a tool that's allowing to do this so easily. And I guess i'm just surprised that the music industry hasn't tried to stop these abilities. But again it's likely DJ's who are actually eating up the new music so why kill your target audience.
SMH Really?? You need to stop smoking dude. This doesn't make any kind of sense. What does the remix decks have to do with sharing? How does the remix decks as a tool make sharing and downloading easier? Your logic is so rediculous you are saying that Traktor in itself is illegal for allowing music to be played as is every other software or hardware ever known to man that plays or creates music. I guess Akai has been making an illegal tool for years. Also DJs are looked at by the music industry as promoters. Its why every record pool says you have to be a DJ to join. You pay a flat fee and the music is there for you to download because you are a DJ that is playing that music for the masses, promoting it for people to hear it and go out and buy it.
Joesph Kasian
04.06.2012		This topic is super random - like TS has just discovered that people can easily put samples over tracks and share them. Almost like every production program in the history of music production.

And as for things like - http://mashup.mixedinkey.com/ - well....I honestly don't know how they sleep at evening !
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
04.06.2012		F@#k the law, I follow my moral compass it's usually wiser that a law written by some jerk who is trying to only protect the interests of big business at the expense of... everyone else
Romelia Stankard
04.06.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Haha I didn't start this thread out of fear. I just find it so crazy that NI has given us the ability to share our remix decks so easily with others. You could literally build an entire library of remix tracks if there was a place where people could post and share them.

I guess i'm just looking at the irony of some people in the music industry who are going to try and stop sharing and downloading when we have a tool that's allowing to do this so easily. And I guess i'm just surprised that the music industry hasn't tried to stop these abilities. But again it's likely DJ's who are actually eating up the new music so why kill your target audience.
I still don't understand where you are getting that the remix decks make sharing music any easier. The remix decks don't make sharing music any easier than regular track decks or itunes do. They are just players. What are you talking about?
Sylvia Greener
04.06.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Haha I didn't start this thread out of fear. I just find it so crazy that NI has given us the ability to share our remix decks so easily with others. You could literally build an entire library of remix tracks if there was a place where people could post and share them.

I guess i'm just looking at the irony of some people in the music industry who are going to try and stop sharing and downloading when we have a tool that's allowing to do this so easily. And I guess i'm just surprised that the music industry hasn't tried to stop these abilities. But again it's likely DJ's who are actually eating up the new music so why kill your target audience.
I believe you shouldn't get it wrong. NI released the Remix Decks to allow people loading their samples into a kit so that you can load that bunch of samples like you would load songs. Of course you can transfer your Remix Kits easily from one of your computers to another. If you're a producer (and some DJs are) you can also create Remix Kits you produced yourself which you could share with others online.

Every other way you can abuse the Remix Decks functionality is just malpractice and not intended by Native Instruments.
It's like you would blame a manufacturer of kitchen knifes for giving people the tools to murder.

Native Instruments' intention is to make the handling of samples as easy as the handling of songs is.
Johnsie Kingrea
04.06.2012		Haha I didn't start this thread out of fear. I just find it so crazy that NI has given us the ability to share our remix decks so easily with others. You could literally build an entire library of remix tracks if there was a place where people could post and share them.

I guess i'm just looking at the irony of some people in the music industry who are going to try and stop sharing and downloading when we have a tool that's allowing to do this so easily. And I guess i'm just surprised that the music industry hasn't tried to stop these abilities. But again it's likely DJ's who are actually eating up the new music so why kill your target audience.
Sylvia Greener
03.06.2012		And ears of course, because they can listen to illegal music from downloaded files and the Remix Decks
Marshall Aby
03.06.2012		They should make eyes illegal because they enable us to see things and copy them.
Yong Aptekar
03.06.2012		^this. You are looking at, at least, 10-15 years. So put that F1 away, put those decks and your midi fighter in the closet, and go play outside where its safe.
Len Lukawski
03.06.2012		it's all VERY ILLEGAL and you will all go to jail (probably in Texas) for a considerable period of time.
Nedra Fresneda
03.06.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
Why would you be afraid to use samples but not be afraid to play entire songs? Elephant, meet Room.
Lol

Btw, my comment was towards sharing/selling remix packs with uncleared samples, not it's usage.
Leeanna Ayla
03.06.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
Why would you be afraid to use samples but not be afraid to play entire songs? Elephant, meet Room.
This
Danae Dumler
03.06.2012		Why would you be afraid to use samples but not be afraid to play entire songs? Elephant, meet Room.
Brunilda Kora
03.06.2012
Originally Posted by kevinmcdonough"
thats your choice and fault.
Exactly. But the law is not there to stop people having fun at home. It's there to stop people profiting from other peoples work.

It's ridiculous for a young aspiring DJ to be afraid of using samples because they'll run into trouble with the law.
Classie Alvizo
03.06.2012		hey

by that rational Pro-Tools, abelton, fruity loops and all the other music production software should be illegal.

But wait, so should Premier Pro, Final Cut pro and all video editing programs, cos i could just import other peoples video clips and export a new production. I can also mess about with other peoples graphics and pictures in Photoshop, so lets add that. And my printer that goes with it, I could print and share copies of stuff that doesn't belong to me, so all printers and photocopiers need to go as well.



As people have said these are all tools. If you choose to do something illegal with them; photocopy books you shouldn't be, use video clips or audio clips you don't have rights to, etc etc then thats your choice and fault.


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Brunilda Kora
03.06.2012		I wish people would just STOP even considering the legality of sampling.

Shit - a lot of us won't ever make it out of the bedroom, and even more just do it for fun. Why would you NOT use samples (which - by the way - is a ridiculous amount of fun) in your mixes/remixes? You're just depriving yourself of fun.

Now go have fun sampling. If the po-leeeece ever have you in a room asking you about sampling, tell 'em Patch says it's okay. They'll know who I am...
Nedra Fresneda
03.06.2012		Same goes to production, don't share things you don't own the rights to. The tools are not the issue.
Romelia Stankard
02.06.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
I was just believeing, how is it possible that the remix decks are legal? Anyone can throw in their own samples and export that remix track and share it with whoever. Just curious.
Not really sure I understand why you would believe any part of the remix decks would be an issue.

Same reason DAWs, tape recorders, and the internet aren't illegal.
Latrice Atcherson
02.06.2012		As with everything in life, it's not illegal to make something, it's illegal to use it for illegal purposes.

Therefore, if you make an illegal remix and sale it, it's not NI's fault, it's yours only.
You agree to that when you buy and install the software.. probably somewhere in their fine print.

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