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| Cheap BEHRINGER Class D Amps | Lela Umanskaya
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
It's really kind of funny, because absolutely nothing you just said matters in the slightest in any practical setting, outside of a sound engineer's circle jerk or a community
. Punters don't care about the clarity or vibrancy of an amp's output, nor do they care about the exact power levels the amps are putting out, they just want music to play from the speakers, and if a cheap amp does that relatively well, then more power to the purchaser's wallet. Reliability is moot, it's a class D amp, there isn't much that can go out outside of QC. And there's a 3 year warranty on everything.
High end amps and cabs exist because people who can hear the difference are the ones that are buying them. No average person cares about what a sound engineer believes, they just want them to make the music play. If that can be accomplished on the cheap, then so be it.
I have to say you both have valid points.
As an engineer, I would never roll out with anything less than my Crown amp rack for any large scale production. My job is to amplify the artist, they don't care about any of the particulars, they don't care if my amp has a three year warranty and I can get a replacement shipped by the end of the week. If my rack goes down, the show doesn't happen, I lose work.
As a hobbyist, I have no problems using Behringer gear. I've got a set of B1031's hooked up to my iMac, awesome little rig for iTunes and gaming. I also have no issue with recommending Behringer gear to customers that just want to jam some tunes in their basement. | Nancey Inderlied
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by sobi
You'll need three just to actually get the power that they advertise as well. Behringers numbers (power wise, and maybe everything else too) are pure bullshit from what I've read. I don't claim to know a lot, but people who do (almost none of which post on this community
)... who are pro audio guys... all seem to say that the numbers Behringer advertises are no where near what their products actually pump out. If you've measured with voltage meters, etc., then I stand corrected. You might want to also stop by the speakers/amps part of the DJcommunity
s boards, as there is a ton of life long pro audio guys who would love to know how you got the numbers proving Behringers specs correct.
It's really kind of funny, because absolutely nothing you just said matters in the slightest in any practical setting, outside of a sound engineer's circle jerk or a community
. Punters don't care about the clarity or vibrancy of an amp's output, nor do they care about the exact power levels the amps are putting out, they just want music to play from the speakers, and if a cheap amp does that relatively well, then more power to the purchaser's wallet. Reliability is moot, it's a class D amp, there isn't much that can go out outside of QC. And there's a 3 year warranty on everything.
High end amps and cabs exist because people who can hear the difference are the ones that are buying them. No average person cares about what a sound engineer believes, they just want them to make the music play. If that can be accomplished on the cheap, then so be it. | Lela Umanskaya
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Plus, CLASS D is real and here to stay. QSC, Crown and Crest will have super lightweight high efficiency amps soon.
ummm, soon?
http://www.itechhd.com/
http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/xti2.htm
http://www.qscaudio.com/products/amps/plx2/
Not as light per say, but way more power (particularly the iTechs). | Cristine Stele
20.06.2012 | Apparently the RMS power is roughly half of the quoted power. Still good value it seems! | Mimi Mahaffee
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
you can buy three and have two spares for less $$$ and less weight than on big name amp. Plus, CLASS D is real and here to stay. QSC, Crown and Crest will have super lightweight high efficiency amps soon. The big car audio brands are already on board.
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True dat! | Jerica Salava
20.06.2012 | Those iNuke amps are great. Google some reviews. | Darren Teboe
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
you can buy three and have two spares for less $$$ and less weight than on big name amp.
>
You'll need three just to actually get the power that they advertise as well. Behringers numbers (power wise, and maybe everything else too) are pure bullshit from what I've read. I don't claim to know a lot, but people who do (almost none of which post on this community
)... who are pro audio guys... all seem to say that the numbers Behringer advertises are no where near what their products actually pump out. If you've measured with voltage meters, etc., then I stand corrected. You might want to also stop by the speakers/amps part of the DJcommunity
s boards, as there is a ton of life long pro audio guys who would love to know how you got the numbers proving Behringers specs correct. | Jerica Salava
20.06.2012 | you can buy three and have two spares for less $$$ and less weight than on big name amp. Plus, CLASS D is real and here to stay. QSC, Crown and Crest will have super lightweight high efficiency amps soon. The big car audio brands are already on board.
> | Darren Teboe
20.06.2012 | Buy cheap, buy twice. Buy once, cry once. You get what you pay for with Behringer. At best, I'd trust this as a home amp to run a series of studio speakers and/or home DJ rigs. No matter how well it performs, I would never put my reputation on the line by trusting behringer gear out at a event. The likelihood of your party/event coming to a screeching halt due to Behringers reliability is very high. Not a situation I'd ever put myself in. I hate having to spend so much on gear
, but I know companies like QSC (just one example) are not likely to die out on me within the first few years. | Lela Umanskaya
21.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
I've tried the NU6000, when you first pick it up it feels like a toy. I hooked it up to a little JBL SRX715+728S rig pointing out the back door at work and it was quite impressive, adding another amp and two more cabs and it would have been more than adequate for a few hundred ppl, although the subwoofer output was a little... starved. I won't say it compares to a real deal Crown, Crest, etc but for someone on a budget the power is there. |
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