Virtual DJ VS Tractor Pro - Why not ?
Virtual DJ VS Tractor Pro - Why not ? Posted on: 21.12.2009 by Martha Desplinter I trully don't understand why everybody seems to ignore VDJ?I have been looking for an answer of this question for 2 days and hope somebody more pro will explain in details. Some say Tractor PRO Is more stable program, but is this is the only reason? The only thing I noticed with VDJ is that when change the pitich it sound unnatural like if the track always changes its speed and it is not stable. I believe with traktor pro it is not like that , but correct me if I am wrong. I have tried both and feel more fun using VDJ so the question is why would I change to Tractor PRO and why the PRO dj's seems to prefer it? | |
| Danae Dumler 27.07.2012 | I'm really looking forward to what VDJ comes up with in version 8; if the Mac version is up to snuff I may buy it and say goodbye to Traktor. |
| Ike Hallisey 27.07.2012 | i had tried the pro trial for 2 days and had the time coded vinyls working for 2 hours and it started lagging and popping so i uninstalled it and reinstalled ( stupid me) i lost my pro trial. i had called and talked to vdj and they said that, that was it. i wasnt gonna get anymore time to use. so they had recommended that i download the vdj home free and i could use the pro features for 10 minuets before it shuts off my stanton djc.4 and timecode vinyls. i have traktor but it doesnt work well with my djc.4 and it wont pick up my timecode vinyls. vdj for the win |
| Frederic Acidera 08.02.2012 | I started with Virtual DJ demo-ish version. I liked it for a bit, the best thing about it was the video mixing but it wasn't that great. The effects are cheesy. So now that I have Traktor, I don't have video capabilities but that's ok, I believe if I really wanted to do some video mixing I will be going to Serato. |
| Chandra Lean 08.02.2012 | by TRACTOR PRO do you mean John Deere's new green and yellow software??? |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 07.02.2012 | the jog has to stop spinning and your hand needs to be off the touch platter before the track will start again, if your not using a touch platter the jog has to stop and there will be a noticable delay anyway... the only way around it is to use the backspin plugin. if you have a pro licence you can also download to "registry tool" to change the scratch performance so it cuts faster and sharper. set the default scratch latency to at or below 1020, mine is around 970 |
| Mariah Itter 07.02.2012 | I have used a legit version of vdj inc the latest one, i use it if i ever have to compare and no need to mix.It does not come close to Traktor or Serato as a main digital system. |
| Raven Kuamme 07.02.2012 | i've found on vdj that when you backspin on a controller there is a noticable lag before the track resumes playing, is there a way to get around this? it's not my controller cos in traktor the problem isn't there, but i prefer to use vdj as it's just so much easier to do stuff... |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 12.01.2012 | it's all over zippyshare, rapid share etc... |
| Nella Libin 12.01.2012 | Oooosh! (fires up bit torrent ...) |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 12.01.2012 | I don't really use too many effects in mixes LMAO , it's more of an obsession of getting everything out of vdj possible. The eq is called "minimal systems instruments - ultimate 3 band", they no longer sell it due to all the warez links on the internet, so use your immagination of how to get it. here's a screenshot of the popout, although you don't need to see that to use it. to map it just use this LOW effect "ultimate 3 band" active on & effect "ultimate 3 band" slider 3 & fake_eq_low MID effect "ultimate 3 band" active on & effect "ultimate 3 band" slider 5 & fake_eq_mid HIGH effect "ultimate 3 band" active on & effect "ultimate 3 band" slider 1 & fake_eq_high you should also set the frequency cutoff and you are sorted, with a perfect eq better sounding than my djm600, It will even change the skins knob. but be warned it doesn't work in conjunction with timecode on my gig machine, for that you need to use the native one but midi HID is perfect.. |
| Raven Kuamme 12.01.2012 | where do you get the registry tool from? |
| Nella Libin 12.01.2012 | Id never even considered using better EQ's with VST's before you said that, and it would be so easy to map the controller... Thanks for that bit of info alone! |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 12.01.2012 | you just need to download the registry tool, then change the "default scratch latency" to below 1020, mine is set around 980 I believe here is a video from Huey explaining how to do it, and it's affect on scratching performance [youtube]v0emPqYT9oQ[/youtube] In regard to the effects, you just activate them in order of the signal flow you want and make sure they are set on dry, I should mention though that this doesn't work on effects that use the buffer eg beatmasher's and rolls, only realtime audio effects, but you are not restricted to 4 effects you can run the flow indefinately, I have a button to activate all my effects in order or turn them all off, the flow goes 3 band equalizer - pristine quality vst, frequency adjustable lp/hp filter - pristine quality vst, 13 sliders for ultimate adjustability mute - vst, kills the signal flow to allow the delays and echo's to fade trans - cut on beat gate - will cut the sound below a set threshold lfo filter - same as the hp/lp filter, but a duplicate instance of the dll crusher - standard delay - pristine vst ping pong delay - Duen Duen reverb - pristine vst echo - Duen Duen, beatsynced echo freeze - Tex_ZK tape stop - vst that doesn't stop the track and sounds amazing stretch - vst, sounds amazing loop roll - Tex_ZK I'm not restricted to only those effects, but that was the best flow I have found, and anything else I activate doesn't need to be in the flow. |
| Nella Libin 12.01.2012 | synthet1c, have you any mixes online i could have a listen to where you utilise these effects? I'm intrigued! Another VDJ 7 fan here, its easy as hell to get the hang of, easy as hell to map, and its my main " Go To" software if im just gonna jump on and do an hours mess about at home |
| Raven Kuamme 12.01.2012 | everything is nicer in VDJ except for effects and scratching. if i'm wrong about scratching... can someone explain how to make it as good as traktor please |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 11.01.2012 | not anymore I'm afraid.... the script possibilities are almost endless, but far more indepth than traktor, there is no limit on how many varibles you can have, and every action is performed consecutivley so you can do two, ten or a hundred things at the same time with the touch of a button. I have made the following with script
I have been able to chain effects exactly the same as your jesus reincarnate if the effect has a wet/dry, vdj's effect library has recently become very strong and very complete thanks to Duen Duen's amazing plugins, he is also implimenting every effect in pioneers arsenal. You can also use vst's for much cleaner sounding effects than any dj software provides. There is 99 cue points to do anything you wish with, 99 decks that can be utilised as samplers exactly the same as traktors or you can just use the built in one which loops, beatlocks and one shots. I have not had a crash that wasn't caused by a poorly created vst, if something does crash it I delete it straight away. You can run timecode, any thing that sends midi, it has native HID support. Video, dmx integration, txt msg to screen, it can use any soundcard you have, you can use multiple soundcards, it works as a rewire master etc... as I have said in another thread the only thing vdj doesn't have is a cool name, and the default skin looks a little cheap. |
| Lisa Lochotzki 11.01.2012 | I'm not a VDJ fan (lovely called "Virtual Vidange" in here (french)), BUT I appreciate few things in it though - Do everything (Audio, Video, Karaoke, shed load of file format) - works with "everything" you have on hand |
| Marva Lievsay 11.01.2012 | VDJ has earned the title of "people who believe they can DJ because they bought 20$ software on a computer" or at least in my DJ community it has. Basically everything is better in Traktor compared to VDJ. Stability, operations, i believe every category Traktor is far better than VDJ. Then again, just my opinion, and probably a lot of other people on DJTT (no i don't speak for all of you! lmao) |
| Trista Karle 11.01.2012 | So thoughts on decadance I haven't used it for years just other evening
was believeing about it. Anyone out there using it or is no longer? Sent from my jailbroken iPhone |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 11.01.2012 | I'm a big fanboy, it is incredibly easy and incredibly complex at the same time, I'm mapping the VCI 400SE as we speak and I don't even need to use a controller to get what is in my head in the code, and I don't need any firmware updates to make it work VDJ8's gonna be awesome |
| Raven Kuamme 11.01.2012 | i read through a couple of pages, and i'm surprised nobody's mentioned just how EASY it is to map on VDJ as opposed to TP. it's so much hassle to change ANYTHING on traktor. |
| Werner Bahling 15.04.2011 | i joined this community
just to throw in my 2 cents ive always used VDJ because thats how i started and ive used traktor and it would always crash on my computer, but anyways VDJ7 is awesome and heres my favorite feature THE REMOTE , heres a lil sample video i made http://youtu.be/iPBUEMuJ9S0 i use the remote and the Vestax Typhoon and a keyboard i mapped for 20 cues n such for mixes, for me VDJ is tops PS: i know this thread is oldish -Ghetto1 |
| Dannie Widlak 01.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by theory28
|
| Nedra Fresneda 01.12.2010 | tried serato, vdj, deckadance, traktor studio, etc around 2005-6. Back then vdj sounded like ****, deckadance was unstable and never liked serato's interface/workflow. Never had any mayor issues with Traktor nor needed video mixing and it's mapping capability and fx are still ahead, so no need to look for something else.
-Traktor has better EQ and audio quality < at the cost of processing power
|
| Maisie Marras 01.12.2010 | or you could buy an s4 and use it with traktor im joking! really, what ever works for the individual. its about the music, right? |
| Dannie Widlak 01.12.2010 | After some time with VD7, I have some new stuff to add:
So the disadvantages compared to Traktor have decreased a lot, and the advantages are all still there (inifinite cue points, video mixing, overlapping waveform window, key detection, etc...). There's one thing that's frustrating me, though. The S4 has a beautiful layout, and I'd love to use it with VDJ... but I have no idea if EVERYTHING (like, for instance, the beatloop counter) sends/receives midi. If so, I can map it manually, but if not... bleh. My alternative for 4-deck mixing would be the Denon MC6000, but it looks cramped as hell. |
| Denna Lawing 29.11.2010 | so what's the verdict with VDJ 7 compaired to TP? Me, being a semi-pro DJ, much prefer VDJ for its versetilaty: -I can run VDJ off my e-pc but struggles to run Traktor -Virtual DJ 7 can have upto 99 decks (u try and use that many in one sitting lol) -Absolutly LOVING the 'net search' feature < means I never have to turn down a request -controlls are extremly quick and fun -it does video -ALL the vdj range to radio broadcasts -I don't have cheezy effects cuss I use good vst's -Traktor has better EQ and audio quality < at the cost of processing power - never crashed on me yet -I can make custom searches and sort my files how I want em (i.e. tracks by '...' with bpm from 130-136) I have to say Traktor wins in quality and the design of it feels a lot more professional but from all the mobile DJ's I've seen and even in the big clubs - VDJ wins... |
| Myrtle Billegas 25.09.2010 | This is somehow a useless conversation. My car may not be as fast as yours, but it getz me from one point to another, just as it should. Its the same with VDJ vs the rest of the world. I |
| money monoma 25.09.2010 | I have TSP & also Vdj . I work everyevening
with Vdj , working perfect with Denon 3700's & Pioneer cdj2000 ( nobody can work with TSP & 3700 or cdj2000 ) I work 330 days a year , everyday with no free days , 6-7 hours a day without any single problem . TSP have better sync options , but i use my ears for mixing , so i don't need perfect sync , i can do it by myself . TSP is a good software , BUt Vdj have better search options , so far better browser , skins , 4 or more decks (vdj7 ) , samples , video , perfect History , filter folders like most played , top100 , etc . - Better playlist . Vdj is a really PRO tool . All the people were speaking bad about it because they said vdj is for cheater djs with the sync ..what about Traktor ? About the sound : using audio8dj I can't feel difference between both . |
| Ashanti Unsworth 25.09.2010 | I was saying it in relation to the upgrades and serial. Being banned from community s is up to the moderator so happens easily although deleting the thread is pretty bad and makes me believe that they are just trying to cover themselves up, otherwise they should have left a professional reply and locked the thread. Leaving that as an example of professionalism. |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 24.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by strestus
Originally Posted by Decitronic
Being rude doesnt mean you lose the right to product support or upgrades. That is a legal right unless you breach the EULA. Id be interested to know what was said. If VDJ banned him from the Forum for being rude then tough... dont be rude to people that are trying to help ... period. If they banned him for anything else then id be suspicious of VDJs attitude. I am very surprised that they withdrew Upgrade rights. That is a serious step to take. Jus sayin (from experience). |
| Ashanti Unsworth 24.09.2010 | Being rude doesn't warrant what they done. They are clearly not a decent business if they treat their customers like that. It makes much more sense to please customers and build up a good reputation, no wonder their reputation is bad. Personally I would never use VDJ even if it was the best dj software out there because I will never support people who treat their customers like that. If the vci 100 works with other software and not their software then the problem clearly lies in VDJ. They should have a list of controllers with known problems, in that case they would be in the right. That means they should have refunded him. They aren't losing out on money really with a refund as there is no physical product involved, just a download. What they would get instead is a happy person that would give them a better reputation which is what makes VDJ so unapproachable for a lot of people. They deserve it though. |
| Myrtle Billegas 23.09.2010 | Absolutely, normally they dont ban people so easily over there. Thats why i wanted to read the original post. Maybe the OP did come across rude or something? |
| Ethel Feigum 23.09.2010 | I dj for a living on VDJ. Clubs, weddings, private parties, street festivals with 1000's of people. I use video for fashion shows and charity auctions. I regularly run it for 5, 6 hours at a time. I'm sorry you're having a hard time, and it's pretty messed up of them to delete your account, but I don't believe your experience with them is typical. |
| Myrtle Billegas 23.09.2010 | Yes, its me in the video using VDJ.All the other MFC dj |
| Martha Desplinter 23.09.2010 | No I can't get updates they blocked me 100% About your video the gig is too short to really count. I would never trust VDJ for a real gig. Still to see somebody that does. As I sais it is controler related , but it crashes becuase VDJ doesn't handle it properly , otherwise why would it work with traktor ? I hope soon when traktor supports video people stop pretending that there is no issue with this buggy software. All serious DJ I know use traktor and there is a reason why. I was stupid enough to be fooled by the nice skins and the NET search which never worked.I know it is blocked , but it is like anything else with this software. |
| Julietta Mistretta 23.09.2010 | were those just vdj skins in that video, or were there a lot of traktor users? edit: and were you one of those peeps? |
| Myrtle Billegas 23.09.2010 | So what you are saying is that because you got a controller that isnt working right you want Atomix to give you your money back? How about complaining to Vestax? And they dont remove it because the majority of vci |
| Martha Desplinter 23.09.2010 | I know it is 100% controller related , but why wouldn't they take the responsibility and either remove it form the supported devices or give me my money back. Instead the blocked my account when I started complaining about it. I posted a request on their system and they did try to help but even buying another computer didn't help so I waited for 2 weeks before I started complaining about it in the main community . the first post I did was locked and later deleted and any other post I did after that one was also deleted. After that they blocked my account so that I can no longer share my experience to the other users and they don't loose any more sales. Today I was on the phone with them asking for a refund, but basically they sais : Sorry your problem , we have got your money and don't care anymore. Before I got the controller it was working fine with the keyboard and the mouse so it is strictly related to the controller and the jogwheel itself , but why would I buy another controller which might work and might not. Yes it is controller related, but honestly I don't care what is the reason. I bought another computer and this is enough for troubleshooting. |
| Nan Pechart 24.09.2010 | I also have to say that during the last 3 or 4 years I used a cracked version 3.4 (Hey, I was young and wanted to test it...), a "limited edition" that came with my first controller and now a fully payed Pro version and neither on Windows nor my Macbook I ever had any problems with Virtual DJ. That's the worst thing about computers. Sometimes stuff that works for everybody else, just don't work for you although it should. :P |
<< Back to General DiscussionReply