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Anyone build a hackintosh for music related stuff?
Posted on: 29.01.2012 by Romelia Stankard
I was debating building a new desktop since mine is older and meomory/cpu go through the roof if I have too many VSTs open or kits loaded into maschine and it doesn't even really make sense to dump any money into this thing.

I have no experience with building hackintoshes and it seems like they can be a pain in the ass but promising with good planning and buying the right parts there may not be any issues. Windows is also really starting to annoy me so the prospect of building a $5000 mac pro for $1000 is very appealing.

I just wonder would there be any particular issues with building a hackintosh for music related stuff? I mean I believe the hardware restrictions would only apply to system components right? Once all the drivers work on the desktop could there be any unforseen issues with software, soundcards, midi controllers, and other basic studio devices?
Romelia Stankard
07.09.2012
Originally Posted by Janky
Just curious how this is working for you Xone. Was believeing of building one myself.
works awesome

haven't had any issues with it

I've been debating upgrading to mountain lion but haven't gotten around to it
Dorie Scelzo
22.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
any processor improvements aren't going to make a big difference in the near future.
Agreed.

Having easier (read: cheaper) access to UAD/HD/HDX-style DSP chips would be really cool. That'd make a big difference. Unfortunately, there aren't any synths that run on the UAD cards and TDM/AAX-DSP soft synths are few and far between.

If thy didn't cost as much as a whole computer/system I believe a lot more people would get serious benefits from them. But, a UAD-2 Quad costs like $1800 with very few plugins and can't run synthesizers and a basic PT 10 HDX system starts at like $10,000…though it does come with a nice 4x8 analog + 20 digital IO sound card……and only works with PT HDX at this point.
Romelia Stankard
20.05.2012
Originally Posted by MiL0
is the GA-Z77-DS3H still the best option for hackintosh motherboards at the moment? I want a cheap and painless option!
No.

Choose any of these: http://www.kakewalk.se/compatibility/
Kasi Kyung
02.11.2013
Mountain Lion runs perfectly on my HP DV7-4285dx as well as my new rig. (GB B75 intel board, i5 3470K, 8GB DDR3, GTX 650 Ti Boost). Software update works, updated to 10.8.5 from 10.8.0 no troubs, just had to reinstall NI drivers and repair permissions! :-) Def have to do rhe NVRAM trick to get facetime working and such, but everything works flawlessly.
Romelia Stankard
07.09.2012
Originally Posted by Janky
Just curious how this is working for you Xone. Was believeing of building one myself.
works awesome

haven't had any issues with it

I've been debating upgrading to mountain lion but haven't gotten around to it
Emerson Crist
06.09.2012
Just curious how this is working for you Xone. Was believeing of building one myself.
Dorie Scelzo
22.05.2012
Enh…I forgot it existed in that amount of time.
Arcelia Siebeneck
22.05.2012
TC Powercore?

edit: wow, I've really been out of the loop for awhile now haven't I? didn't realise it had been discontinued... http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=13577
Dorie Scelzo
22.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
any processor improvements aren't going to make a big difference in the near future.
Agreed.

Having easier (read: cheaper) access to UAD/HD/HDX-style DSP chips would be really cool. That'd make a big difference. Unfortunately, there aren't any synths that run on the UAD cards and TDM/AAX-DSP soft synths are few and far between.

If thy didn't cost as much as a whole computer/system I believe a lot more people would get serious benefits from them. But, a UAD-2 Quad costs like $1800 with very few plugins and can't run synthesizers and a basic PT 10 HDX system starts at like $10,000…though it does come with a nice 4x8 analog + 20 digital IO sound card……and only works with PT HDX at this point.
Romelia Stankard
22.05.2012
Yeah I'm not even following what's going on with new tech coming out. Honestly we're at the point where things are fast enough that for purposes of pretty demanding music production we already have so much processing power that any improvements in processors really won't make a noticeable difference any time soon. I mean I can run 50+ channels of audio each loaded with VST instruments and nice effects and my hackintosh doesn't even start to slow down so any processor improvements aren't going to make a big difference in the near future.

Only reason I would want more cpu is if I was doing 3D rendering at home.
Arielle Posso
22.05.2012
i actually plan on building a hackntosh later this year for music and video production and graphics work. I'll have to wait till apple releases their new imac line with ivy bridge processors so that the software will work with the new processors without the need for the current work around. there are current motherboards that are compatible with both sandy bridge and ivy bridge chip configurations and they can support the osx software.

sidenote: i just got super nerdy >_>
Dorie Scelzo
21.05.2012
The magic mice are better than you believe they're going to be, but I believe they're insanely overpriced.

The magic trackpads are kinda cool, but only if you like trackpads. I'm actually considering getting one to replace my Logitech Trackman Wheel. The m570 bluetooth version still won't scroll sideways…which is getting annoying…unless I'm missing something.
Arcelia Siebeneck
20.05.2012
sorry, i meant ivybridge boards
Romelia Stankard
20.05.2012
Originally Posted by MiL0
is the GA-Z77-DS3H still the best option for hackintosh motherboards at the moment? I want a cheap and painless option!
No.

Choose any of these: http://www.kakewalk.se/compatibility/
Arcelia Siebeneck
20.05.2012
is the GA-Z77-DS3H still the best option for ivybridge hackintosh motherboards at the moment? I want a cheap and painless option!
Romelia Stankard
20.05.2012
Anyone have an apple magic mouse? Are they as uncomfortable and awkward as they look? I need a new mouse and don't know why I kind of want one. I would need to get a DBT-120 bluetooth adapter off ebay.
Romelia Stankard
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I really sympathize…that sucks. Hope you get your shit off it.

But, uhh…IMHO, if a hard drive ever gives noticeable problems, it's life is over.

Unplug it and assume that you'll get 1 more read out of it if you're lucky. Go buy another one.

I realize this old "rule" has probably lead to me destroying several perfectly good hard drives, but I've never lost data permanently. For me "drive crash" usually means a couple days of reinstalling audio software because it's always worth taking the opportunity to start clean.
Yeah I really can't remember if this drive had issues or not or if it was another one of these older seagate 1.5tb drives- I had a few of them I got a few years ago and I believe at least one other died, they kind of sucked.

It's just awful timing, I signed up for backblaze unlimited backup for my studio machine so I wanted to get all my data on there so it would be back up to my backblaze account too- didn't have much luck copying anything over last evening .
Dorie Scelzo
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I vaguely remember this drive having an issue before then it was fine for almost a year.
I really sympathize…that sucks. Hope you get your shit off it.

But, uhh…IMHO, if a hard drive ever gives noticeable problems, it's life is over.

Unplug it and assume that you'll get 1 more read out of it if you're lucky. Go buy another one.

I realize this old "rule" has probably lead to me destroying several perfectly good hard drives, but I've never lost data permanently. For me "drive crash" usually means a couple days of reinstalling audio software because it's always worth taking the opportunity to start clean.
Twanda Reimche
13.05.2012
I haven't read all the posts here, but here are my 2 cents.

I've build many hackintoshes for me and my friends for different purposes. Audio production, media center, video production, etc. I produced the sound and music of a TV show with one of my first hackintoshes and some Logic projects had like 100 tracks. Never let me down.

I've always used Kakewalk and always got a happy ending.

http://www.kakewalk.se/

Just stick to the compatible hardware and the machine will fly.
Essie Rutar
13.05.2012
Nice machine, well done! It's so much easier to do it these days. My first one (pre-Intel) was an odyssey, two of my four current ones were also very challenging. Ironically, the easiest one was the netbook (runs snow leopard very well).

It's all about picking the right hardware, mostly the board and the graphics card (acceleration not working was a common problem). Sleep can be a challenge, most wireless chips won't work, but nowadays, that's about it.

Best cases for me are made by Antec.

edit: good luck with your HDD. Freezer is your last resort. Use hdd regenerator and then getdataback, burn a hiren's boot cd.
Romelia Stankard
13.05.2012
So I went out and bought a 3TB hard drive (bought a seagate 3tb external and gutted it for the 7200rpm sata3 internal, cheaper than buying a bare drive), to put in the hackintosh.

I got it to copy a bunch of media from a couple 1.5tb drives I had in my PC desktop- so just my luck the 1.5tb drives were all running perfectly fine for years and as I put them in the hackintosh to copy my data over one of the 1.5tb starts getting the click of death and then erroring out. Of all times for it to fail it's the moment I am copying over all the data. Right now it is in my freezer- hopefully the freezer trick works long enough so I can get all my data off. I vaguely remember this drive having an issue before then it was fine for almost a year.
Romelia Stankard
11.05.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
Out of curiosity, what do you have in your PCIe slots and are they working properly? Is it just video, FW, and USB?
I'm just running my video card on PCIe.

I didn't end up getting the USB card since my virus/usb connection issues miraculously disappeared (I believe it had to do with another hub connected somewhere I got rid of), but I may still get another USB card anyway just to be safe. I didn't bother with a firewire card since I don't use any firewire devices and I'm running wired ethernet so no need to figure out wireless. As far as firewire cards go I know any will work as long as they have a Texas Instruments chip.

If I ever get around to it I'm going to try to get the USB 3.0 on the motherboard working via the Lacie drivers.

My video card works properly as expected- I believe I mentioned before but only 1 DVI port works with full graphics enabler settings but that is to be expected for most if not all cards I believe- I'm running multiple monitors through an active displayport to dvi adapter. HDMI should work too but I haven't bothered checking it.
Dorie Scelzo
11.05.2012
Out of curiosity, what do you have in your PCIe slots and are they working properly? Is it just video, FW, and USB?
Romelia Stankard
02.05.2012
I might have to give in and buy a USB 2.0 card, the virus is performing much better on the other ports but it is still running through a mobo hub and it is sometimes giving me error messages.

Might have to grab one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=allegro%20usb



although $50 is kind of pricey I'll have to see if anything else will work for a mac
Kasi Kyung
30.04.2012
I'm running snow leopard on my dv7-4285dx, i5 2.53, 6gb ddr3 and radeon 6370. Can't get radeon working, but integrated Intel HD 3000 works PERFECT, don't need gfx chip for tunes! :-) Runs beautifully. Only things that don't work are integrated sound and wifi. There are obviously better models that can be used, but just requires a bit more searching, AND I scored it at Fry's for $600. I'd REALLY love to build a new desktop, but build it into a case, with monitor and all...
Romelia Stankard
30.04.2012
Monitor one but it does it on either, the screen will boot up with lines through it all glitchy looking and i have to unplug and replug the adapter and then it is fine. Ive read similar things from peoPle i wonder if it would be better if I got one with ext power.
Jenae Hensarling
30.04.2012
That is the only real draw back to those monitors, lack of inputs. One DVI is just plain brutal. What do you mean by start up glitchy? Is the display port - dvi adapter moniotr #1 or #2?
Romelia Stankard
30.04.2012
Yeah I have to see if one of these fancy displayport to dual link dvi adapters that use external usb power will work for this. I have a regular active displayport to single dvi im using but I have to unplug and replug it every time i restart since it will start up glitchy. I'll have to do some research if that will work but two 27" 2560x1440 monitors would be really nice.
Jenae Hensarling
30.04.2012
I've heard a bunch of positive reviews of those Catleap monitors. I would def. suggest getting one. If I hadnt purchased my ASUS 27" already I'd own a Catleap.
Romelia Stankard
30.04.2012
Only thing stopping me is to run two you need two dual link dvi ports and I'm not sure if any hackintosh cards will support that.
Ira Alsadi
30.04.2012
The idea of having no warranty would scare me out of ordering one of those.
Romelia Stankard
29.04.2012
Found these for decent LCD monitors

Apparently these korean monitors can be bought for pretty cheap and are 2560x1440. Still 16:9 but the resolution seems nice.

info: http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/y...-monitor-club#

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_saca...=R40&_nkw=1440 monitor&_pppn=r1&_dmpt=Computer_Monitors&_mPrRngCb x=1&_udlo=300&_udhi=

27"
Romelia Stankard
29.04.2012
Originally Posted by space monkey
Dammit, just when I thought I was in a shopping lull I download the newegg app and started pricing a system. Wtf happened to monitors? 1920x1080 is the only real options out on the affordable market? I'll attribute xone's silence over the past day as a good sign of being productive on a new box...or a hangover.
Right?

To put it eloquently, 1080p can eat a bag of dicks.


I'm really enjoying this thing, so nice to be able to use plug ins without worrying that running more than a couple will crash my system. I also really, really, prefer OSX for music.
Branden Wentler
29.04.2012
Dammit, just when I thought I was in a shopping lull I download the newegg app and started pricing a system. Wtf happened to monitors? 1920x1080 is the only real options out on the affordable market? I'll attribute xone's silence over the past day as a good sign of being productive on a new box...or a hangover.
Chasidy Heckenbach
29.04.2012
not bad out of interest i just ran it on my late 2011 mbp and only got a score of 6182 (32bit mode as only using free version). ran if on my old acer 7736 and that came out at 3135, but no big surprise there.
Romelia Stankard
29.04.2012
64 bit
Jenae Hensarling
29.04.2012
64 or 32 bit version of Geekbench? that acutally makes a difference in the score. either way not bad... my 2600k @ 4.7 w/ a 580 gtx was pullin 15.7K. Either way nice score for the build. Most MBP's socre in that range and you spent half the money.
Romelia Stankard
29.04.2012
geekbench score, not bad for no overclocking or anything



http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/635455

for comparison

http://browse.geekbench.ca/mac-benchmark/
Romelia Stankard
28.04.2012
Yeah I've long given up on that and really like having a dedicated workspace I can sit down at and my goal is to have as few barriers and annoyances between me sitting down and making music as possible. The less hassle, feeling constricted, and things to get in my way the more likely I am to sit down and actually do work- and a dedicated desktop that is always on and ready is nice.

Right now I'm really, really, happy with the hardware I've chosen and between the maschine and virus it is integration heaven and things just flow. I wanted to buy a new desk for all this stuff but can't find anything decent and I may keep this for now just because since I have zero room for any more hardware it will be less tempting to buy more synths and stuff I don't need that won't help me.

I still am debating pulling the trigger on the $1000 pair of Dynaudio BM12As, I was going to hold out for Focals but if I can grab them for that price I might as well and may flip them if I decide to later, just need to find out the deal and how long a backorder will take since it says 7-14 days,
Dorie Scelzo
28.04.2012
Yeah

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