Now That's A Drop |
Edwardo Rothenberger
22.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
Most CDJs have the tempo readout, and they give you pretty precise percentage info so it's easy to beatmatch without listening if that's your thing; before laptop DJing a lot of vinyl DJs considered it cheating to use CDJs for this reason.
That's what I thought. I was one of those who felt it was cheating. I liked the aspect of the skill of keeping these rather mechanical pieces of gear
with a needle being dragged across some plastic grooves in time with each other.
I then tried some CDJ's and found them pretty fun. Was about to buy some, but then found out about all this controller stuff. I prefer having music on a HDD. Not really a CD fan. Def better, at least, to use USB sticks |
Tera Baragan
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
As I said before : "The point was not that the DJ performed an amazing drop. The DJ drop was ok. But the whole spectacle was amazing. DJ, music, venue, lighting, Funktion system, stilt walkers and then .... boom ...confetti and inflatable rafts. What a drop !"
Sorry if I was misunderstood. I wasn't referring to his build up. If I wanted to hear that I would youtube the master of disaster. Only Laidback Luke can jack off pointlessly for half an hour and then play a hideous track.
>
I Just watched the whole thing and I agree with you completely. Looks like a jam of a time.
I just figured you were talking about the song itself. |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Am I the only one who thought that the drop was lacking?
As I said before : "The point was not that the DJ performed an amazing drop. The DJ drop was ok. But the whole spectacle was amazing. DJ, music, venue, lighting, Funktion system, stilt walkers and then .... boom ...confetti and inflatable rafts. What a drop !"
Sorry if I was misunderstood. I wasn't referring to his build up. If I wanted to hear that I would youtube the master of disaster. Only Laidback Luke can jack off pointlessly for half an hour and then play a hideous track.
> |
Tera Baragan
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
Most CDJs have the tempo readout, and they give you pretty precise percentage info so it's easy to beatmatch without listening if that's your thing; before laptop DJing a lot of vinyl DJs considered it cheating to use CDJs for this reason.
And yeah that Klansman thing was like WTF?! I'm glad someone posted that info about Nazarenos because otherwise if I ever do go to Ibiza and see some of those I'd be pretty freaked out. Hope they don't ever wander into the wrong neighborhood dressed like that in the states....
On Halloween some dude was dressed up as a Klansman... But he was black so it was acceptable. |
Danae Dumler
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Timbo21
Thanks. I wasn't exactly talking about sync. As you know, On Traktor you can manually set it to the same bpm as the currently playing track using the Bpm readout, and then mix it manually. I don't know if the old CDJ's catered for this, or whether they were literally the same as vinyl in regard to this, ie no Bpm readout as you changed Tempo fader.
Most CDJs have the tempo readout, and they give you pretty precise percentage info so it's easy to beatmatch without listening if that's your thing; before laptop DJing a lot of vinyl DJs considered it cheating to use CDJs for this reason.
And yeah that Klansman thing was like WTF?! I'm glad someone posted that info about Nazarenos because otherwise if I ever do go to Ibiza and see some of those I'd be pretty freaked out. Hope they don't ever wander into the wrong neighborhood dressed like that in the states.... |
Julissa Serrone
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Timbo21
Me too. I've only just moved to Traktor, a short time ago. I used vinyl in the 90's and then a 12 year sabbatical at beginning of millennium. I find it more exciting doing it manually. I had a good feel for Technics 1210 tempo faders of moving them finely to keep the mix in sync and getting the bass drums to phase, which used to sound awesome on vinyl!! Can't quite get that the same on Traktor, whether using sync, or not.
However if using F1, have to use sync.
Timbo --- we're on a similar paths. I used to play on 1200's in the 90's, then stopped DJing for about 10 yeas as well. When the bug hit me again, I jumped on Traktor and a VCI-100 and that little machine has some life to it, but it wasn't the same. I tried numerous controllers and it wasn't until I jumped on Serato and a mixer with two decks that I felt the same enjoyment even if my feature set was limited. |
Edwardo Rothenberger
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by haze324
I enjoy moving pitch sliders vs. pressing a buttong. I truly enjoy the physical interaction with turntables or CDJ's for that matter. I feel more involved and my sets I feel are better.
Me too. I've only just moved to Traktor, a short time ago. I used vinyl in the 90's and then a 12 year sabbatical at beginning of millennium. I find it more exciting doing it manually. I had a good feel for Technics 1210 tempo faders of moving them finely to keep the mix in sync and getting the bass drums to phase, which used to sound awesome on vinyl!! Can't quite get that the same on Traktor, whether using sync, or not.
However if using F1, have to use sync. |
Era Roka
22.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
At 1.5 minutes it would only be .03% off, you still wouldn't hear a difference.
I always mix four decks at the same time, and even when it's ,01 off it gets messed up. |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
Do you know how long it would take a track to noticeably drift that's 2 hundredths of a percent off?
about 1 minute and 27 seconds. sometimes I hold loops with effects (over an existing track) longer than that. |
Julissa Serrone
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
Do you know how long it would take a track to noticeably drift that's 2 hundredths of a percent off?
This. Also since you were asking about Serato -- the two main views are whole numbers and percentage -- you only get decimals on the stacked view which is the crappiest.
I enjoy moving pitch sliders vs. pressing a buttong. I truly enjoy the physical interaction with turntables or CDJ's for that matter. I feel more involved and my sets I feel are better. |
Edwardo Rothenberger
22.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
Most CDJs have the tempo readout, and they give you pretty precise percentage info so it's easy to beatmatch without listening if that's your thing; before laptop DJing a lot of vinyl DJs considered it cheating to use CDJs for this reason.
That's what I thought. I was one of those who felt it was cheating. I liked the aspect of the skill of keeping these rather mechanical pieces of gear
with a needle being dragged across some plastic grooves in time with each other.
I then tried some CDJ's and found them pretty fun. Was about to buy some, but then found out about all this controller stuff. I prefer having music on a HDD. Not really a CD fan. Def better, at least, to use USB sticks |
Tera Baragan
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
As I said before : "The point was not that the DJ performed an amazing drop. The DJ drop was ok. But the whole spectacle was amazing. DJ, music, venue, lighting, Funktion system, stilt walkers and then .... boom ...confetti and inflatable rafts. What a drop !"
Sorry if I was misunderstood. I wasn't referring to his build up. If I wanted to hear that I would youtube the master of disaster. Only Laidback Luke can jack off pointlessly for half an hour and then play a hideous track.
>
I Just watched the whole thing and I agree with you completely. Looks like a jam of a time.
I just figured you were talking about the song itself. |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Am I the only one who thought that the drop was lacking?
As I said before : "The point was not that the DJ performed an amazing drop. The DJ drop was ok. But the whole spectacle was amazing. DJ, music, venue, lighting, Funktion system, stilt walkers and then .... boom ...confetti and inflatable rafts. What a drop !"
Sorry if I was misunderstood. I wasn't referring to his build up. If I wanted to hear that I would youtube the master of disaster. Only Laidback Luke can jack off pointlessly for half an hour and then play a hideous track.
> |
Tera Baragan
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
Most CDJs have the tempo readout, and they give you pretty precise percentage info so it's easy to beatmatch without listening if that's your thing; before laptop DJing a lot of vinyl DJs considered it cheating to use CDJs for this reason.
And yeah that Klansman thing was like WTF?! I'm glad someone posted that info about Nazarenos because otherwise if I ever do go to Ibiza and see some of those I'd be pretty freaked out. Hope they don't ever wander into the wrong neighborhood dressed like that in the states....
On Halloween some dude was dressed up as a Klansman... But he was black so it was acceptable. |
Danae Dumler
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Timbo21
Thanks. I wasn't exactly talking about sync. As you know, On Traktor you can manually set it to the same bpm as the currently playing track using the Bpm readout, and then mix it manually. I don't know if the old CDJ's catered for this, or whether they were literally the same as vinyl in regard to this, ie no Bpm readout as you changed Tempo fader.
Most CDJs have the tempo readout, and they give you pretty precise percentage info so it's easy to beatmatch without listening if that's your thing; before laptop DJing a lot of vinyl DJs considered it cheating to use CDJs for this reason.
And yeah that Klansman thing was like WTF?! I'm glad someone posted that info about Nazarenos because otherwise if I ever do go to Ibiza and see some of those I'd be pretty freaked out. Hope they don't ever wander into the wrong neighborhood dressed like that in the states.... |
Tera Baragan
21.09.2012 | Am I the only one who thought that the drop was lacking? |
Julissa Serrone
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Timbo21
Me too. I've only just moved to Traktor, a short time ago. I used vinyl in the 90's and then a 12 year sabbatical at beginning of millennium. I find it more exciting doing it manually. I had a good feel for Technics 1210 tempo faders of moving them finely to keep the mix in sync and getting the bass drums to phase, which used to sound awesome on vinyl!! Can't quite get that the same on Traktor, whether using sync, or not.
However if using F1, have to use sync.
Timbo --- we're on a similar paths. I used to play on 1200's in the 90's, then stopped DJing for about 10 yeas as well. When the bug hit me again, I jumped on Traktor and a VCI-100 and that little machine has some life to it, but it wasn't the same. I tried numerous controllers and it wasn't until I jumped on Serato and a mixer with two decks that I felt the same enjoyment even if my feature set was limited. |
Edwardo Rothenberger
21.09.2012 | Damn, just watched that video. Really made me want to go to Ibiza again, and leave the kids at home, lol. Reminded me of a foam party I went to in 1990 in Pacha. That was mental. Mind you, the main crowd seemed to have a lot of geezers. Most of the women seemed to be in the vip bit. |
Edwardo Rothenberger
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by haze324
I enjoy moving pitch sliders vs. pressing a buttong. I truly enjoy the physical interaction with turntables or CDJ's for that matter. I feel more involved and my sets I feel are better.
Me too. I've only just moved to Traktor, a short time ago. I used vinyl in the 90's and then a 12 year sabbatical at beginning of millennium. I find it more exciting doing it manually. I had a good feel for Technics 1210 tempo faders of moving them finely to keep the mix in sync and getting the bass drums to phase, which used to sound awesome on vinyl!! Can't quite get that the same on Traktor, whether using sync, or not.
However if using F1, have to use sync. |
Era Roka
22.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
At 1.5 minutes it would only be .03% off, you still wouldn't hear a difference.
I always mix four decks at the same time, and even when it's ,01 off it gets messed up. |
Antonetta Wikel
21.09.2012 | At 1.5 minutes it would only be .03% off, you still wouldn't hear a difference. |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
Do you know how long it would take a track to noticeably drift that's 2 hundredths of a percent off?
about 1 minute and 27 seconds. sometimes I hold loops with effects (over an existing track) longer than that. |
Julissa Serrone
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
Do you know how long it would take a track to noticeably drift that's 2 hundredths of a percent off?
This. Also since you were asking about Serato -- the two main views are whole numbers and percentage -- you only get decimals on the stacked view which is the crappiest.
I enjoy moving pitch sliders vs. pressing a buttong. I truly enjoy the physical interaction with turntables or CDJ's for that matter. I feel more involved and my sets I feel are better. |
Latina Samon
21.09.2012 | These things happen all the time? Specially in Ibiza. Looks fun though.
A dc10 sitdown would blow your mind if that surprises you. |
Antonetta Wikel
21.09.2012 | Do you know how long it would take a track to noticeably drift that's 2 hundredths of a percent off? |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Timbo21
Thanks. I wasn't exactly talking about sync. As you know, On Traktor you can manually set it to the same bpm as the currently playing track using the Bpm readout, and then mix it manually. I don't know if the old CDJ's catered for this, or whether they were literally the same as vinyl in regard to this, ie no Bpm readout as you changed Tempo fader.
I use Traktor and I press SYNC and then turn it off by manipulating the pitch bend till the mix sounds correct.
why would I waste time searching for the BPM with a slider when a computer can estimate it and my ears can fine tune it.
plus an annoying thing about Traktor is that the slider sometimes won't match the exact BPM (even in Fine pitch mode)
so you load a track that's 124.00 and then try to mix a new track, manually using the slider, and it will only let you have 123.98 or 124.02.
you hit SYNC and you get 124.00. An exact match.
> |
Edwardo Rothenberger
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
sounds like you're talking about sync. the older CDJ's do not have sync. they have a BPM readout and you have to mix using your ears and brain. you can use Pioneer Rekordbox to setup your audio files and then the CDJ will get a more accurate readout of your tracks.
Jay Lumen (the DJ in the video) is mixing CD's which means you get no assistance. it's straight old school beatmatching.
The new CDJ-2000 Nexus has sync.
>
Thanks. I wasn't exactly talking about sync. As you know, On Traktor you can manually set it to the same bpm as the currently playing track using the Bpm readout, and then mix it manually. I don't know if the old CDJ's catered for this, or whether they were literally the same as vinyl in regard to this, ie no Bpm readout as you changed Tempo fader. |
Random X
21.09.2012 | Bring out the GREENS! |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 | sounds like you're talking about sync. the older CDJ's do not have sync. they have a BPM readout and you have to mix using your ears and brain. you can use Pioneer Rekordbox to setup your audio files and then the CDJ will get a more accurate readout of your tracks.
Jay Lumen (the DJ in the video) is mixing CD's which means you get no assistance. it's straight old school beatmatching.
The new CDJ-2000 Nexus has sync.
> |
Edwardo Rothenberger
21.09.2012 | Out of interest. Do CDJ set ups give you bpm read out with it altering as you change tempo, like Traktor does, or is the tempo matching purely done by ear, like in the vinyl days? |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by rkelley23
Whoever that was is dressed as a Nazareno which Is some sort of spanish priest, they are common during holy week in Sevilla where they are in all different colors.
wow. nice catch. |
Alla Bluemke
21.09.2012 | cool story |
Alyse Chiong
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ajrindy
did anybody notice the klansman at 2:02??
Whoever that was is dressed as a Nazareno which Is some sort of spanish priest, they are common during holy week in Sevilla where they are in all different colors.
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Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 | you guys can speak your mind. i do it all the time. I'm a big boy, my feelings won't get hurt. I live in Miami Florida. I've been hitting WMC since 1999. I've seen the best and the worst. The real and the pretenders. I thought this video had a good vibe. I would have enjoyed to be there. The crowd in the video was a little lame, but that's because David Guetta wasn't playing. Maybe they've been partying for 5 days straight. It is Ibiza after all. |
Ciara Cuttill
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by keithace
:self edit: i have gotten alot better at keeping my mouth shut..
biting my tongue also |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 | The point was not that the DJ performed an amazing drop. The DJ drop was ok. But the whole spectacle was amazing. DJ, music, venue, lighting, Funktion system, stilt walkers and then .... boom ...confetti and inflatable rafts. What a drop !
> |
Lilliana Perris
20.09.2012 | Um...not THAT impressed to be honest.
He just effected the build up and then it dropped into beats.
I do this repeatedly in my sets.
Nothing new or special....sorry. |
Kassandra Guthmiller
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ajrindy
did anybody notice the klansman at 2:02??
Yeah, thought that was pretty odd. Is he DJing in the side room of Privilege? |
Antonetta Wikel
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by keithace
:self edit: i have gotten alot better at keeping my mouth shut..
Where's the "hella like" button? |
Cristian Carmona
19.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by keithace
:self edit: i have gotten alot better at keeping my mouth shut..
I didn't see the video, but I'll spare my blood pressure raising |
