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New Behringer Kit
Posted on: 19.01.2012 by Sulema Eshel
See http://www.behringer.com/EN/Category...rs.aspx?s=O500 & prices are on various pics at http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...8621758&type=1

$99 - $149 for the modulars
$199 for the mixtrack type dual decks (with no balanced out - bit of a fail)

Need to see the build quality as ever with Behringer, but they do look nice
Alena Horten
11.06.2012


http://djworx.com/uli/
Alena Horten
10.06.2012
Read it was releasing october - from Mr. Behringer himself
Kiyoko Wellisch
28.05.2012
Does anyone know when their new audio interfaces (Firepower FCA610 + FCA1616) are coming out? + any additionally info? I hope they work nicely with linux

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCA1616.aspx

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCA610.aspx
Hortencia Kasselman
24.05.2012
The new store is so much bigger. Well, it
Diogo Dj Dragão
24.05.2012
I was in Cologne last year, so I haven't seen the new store yet. But I know it's bigger and they've set up their distribution through the adjacent warehouse. Very cool.

We'll let everyone know when we get close to time for the event.
Hortencia Kasselman
24.05.2012
Yeah, esp. the new store is awesome. You have already been to the new one?

I asked if they knew anything about the upcoming CMD series and the guy didn
Diogo Dj Dragão
24.05.2012
Originally Posted by Ryukyu
Alright, today we had here in Cologne 27
Hortencia Kasselman
24.05.2012
Alright, today we had here in Cologne 27
Arcelia Siebeneck
04.05.2012
I dunno - Behringer are a pretty big company with good distribution... I reckon it could be in the shops in less than 2 months from now. I hope anyway (otherwise my money may get spend elsewhere!)
Hortencia Kasselman
04.05.2012
Well I guess it will last at least two month between the announcement and delivery to the shops!?
Diogo Dj Dragão
04.05.2012
I wish! No one wants these out more than me.
Arcelia Siebeneck
04.05.2012
it's my Birthday next week - is it Summer yet? :P
Chasidy Heckenbach
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Can't you just turn the knob all the way down? I've never understood why you would want a button really.
i've always liked having separate kill switches, ever since my old intimidation blue mixer from years and years ago and also before that i had a sep kill unit i'd wire in between the decks and mixer.

probably 99% of the time, if the knob is decent, there's no need for kill switches. maybe i'm just lazy as i'd still like to have them mapped somewhere, doesn't need to be on the same controller tho
Hortencia Kasselman
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Can't you just turn the knob all the way down? I've never understood why you would want a button really.
Ofc I can, but I feel it more comfortable to push a button, especially for very short cuts. I don
Kiyoko Wellisch
19.04.2012
Can't you just turn the knob all the way down? I've never understood why you would want a button really.
Hortencia Kasselman
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The encoders on the LC-1 are not push encoders. However, the encoders on the PL-1 are (the PL-1 is the ONLY CMD right now with push encoders).
Okay, that
Diogo Dj Dragão
19.04.2012
But the pots don
Hortencia Kasselman
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Push to kill EQ pots are horrible to use IMO. Far too easy to press accidentally.
Push to kill EQs are better than no kill imo.. and if you don
Tatum Ansaldo
19.04.2012
Push to kill EQ pots are horrible to use IMO. Far too easy to press accidentally.
Hortencia Kasselman
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
That depends entirely on what EQ you use in Traktor. Some of them will do a full kill, some won't. That has nothing to do with the controller.
Okay, my fault, I did not ask precisely.. I am aware I can choose the EQ in Traktor. But I wanted to know if there is a possibilty to kill the EQ with something like a button. As there is no button, I thought you might be able to push the pot to kill the EQ like it is possible with the Reloop DJIE2 for example. But the pots don
Diogo Dj Dragão
19.04.2012
Again, there is no possibility to kill EQs with the pots right?
That depends entirely on what EQ you use in Traktor. Some of them will do a full kill, some won't. That has nothing to do with the controller.

They have LED feedback like the APC ones, but can you switch between parameters, similar to the way the top 8 knobs on the APC 40 can switch between pan and Sends A, B, and C?
or will there be multiple scripts for this?
You define that behavior in your app. The LC-1 has endless rotary encoders with an LED ring for app feedback. You have the option of having them send either a relative or absolute message (which is done in the controller).

should of used a different colour from the orange tho
I like the amber.
Tamara Zitterkopf
19.04.2012
i like the CMD Studio 4A

should of used a different colour from the orange tho
Hortencia Kasselman
19.04.2012
Yeah, the mapping of a k2 is pretty clear. No kills would actually mean a pain to me. (
Kiyoko Wellisch
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The case will be sold separately at first. There's no room in the cost of these products to throw in a case for free as well. As for the design, nothing's been solidified yet - I have some cool ideas, however.
That seems very reasonable, can't wait to see what you guys come up with
Leota Dolney
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by Ryukyu
Again, there is no possibility to kill EQs with the pots right?
Doesn't look like it. Right now on my Xone:K2, I use the 3 pots for H/M/L EQ and the buttons below each pot for the kills. There is a 4th "knob" at the top, but it is an encoder with detente that make it impossible to have nice smooth filter sweeps. So instead, I mapped it to gain and the pushbutton/led functionality for my channel cues.
Brock Ricapito
19.04.2012
Maybe I'm dumb or just bad at searching, but I have not found anything confirming how the knobs on the LC-1 function. They have LED feedback like the APC ones, but can you switch between parameters, similar to the way the top 8 knobs on the APC 40 can switch between pan and Sends A, B, and C?
or will there be multiple scripts for this?
Hortencia Kasselman
20.04.2012
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
Not much of a problem for me...I use 3 EQs plus 1 filter...for gain, I plan on just mapping the 4 pots on the top of the controller. From the picture, on the Behriger website, these are : Out 1, Out 2, Cue Vol, & Cue Mix. I don't need tactile access to these as I don't really use or adjust them much.
Indeed, this a good point. Didn
Leota Dolney
20.04.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
Correct - there are only 4 pots per channel. You'll need to either pick gain or filter, or rely on another module to do the filter.
Not much of a problem for me...I use 3 EQs plus 1 filter...for gain, I plan on just mapping the 4 pots on the top of the controller. From the picture, on the Behriger website, these are : Out 1, Out 2, Cue Vol, & Cue Mix. I don't need tactile access to these as I don't really use or adjust them much.


Originally Posted by nem0nic
The case will be sold separately at first. There's no room in the cost of these products to throw in a case for free as well. As for the design, nothing's been solidified yet - I have some cool ideas, however.
Hope the price point is good. I will definitely buy a controller for $99 or $149...but a case that's like $40 on top of that.....makes me annoyed...I would like to see something more down around/below a $30 price point for a case...
Diogo Dj Dragão
20.04.2012
The only thing I really dislike at the moment is the fact, the MM1 just has 4 potis, so you don
Kiyoko Wellisch
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The packaging will be a good bit larger than the controller itself. There needs to be room inside to protect the controller, and also hold things like the cable, manual, etc. But there should be at least one case solution available at launch as well.
Will these cases be sold separately or bundled like the K2? Also will they be the right size and sturdy enough to raise them to the height of a DJ mixer?
Hortencia Kasselman
19.04.2012
First of all these look awesome and give you so much space to be creative with your mapping. You can add and dismiss modules as you like and your personal needs change. And the price is just awesome.

The only thing I really dislike at the moment is the fact, the MM1 just has 4 potis, so you don
Diogo Dj Dragão
19.04.2012
I hope that the packaging will not be oversized (compared to the actual uint) in order to serve as compact carrying case.
The packaging will be a good bit larger than the controller itself. There needs to be room inside to protect the controller, and also hold things like the cable, manual, etc. But there should be at least one case solution available at launch as well.
DJ MENSAH
19.04.2012
I hope that the packaging will not be oversized (compared to the actual uint) in order to serve as compact carrying case.
nem0nic, Is there anything that can be done about that?

For example, I've cut the top of the plastic case for Akai LPD8 and am using it as a "decksaver" and dustcover.
Chasidy Heckenbach
18.04.2012
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
I didn't mean that they would replace an F1...I want to get all three ;-) It's just that if the CMDs were released earlier I could get them and then save up and get the F1...as it stands...I have to wait for all three...basically I am just impatient!!!
ah sure - makes sense now lol. i do really like the idea of the F1 - mostly the styling and rgb pads. also fancy a mf3d tho - so will probably be a mf3d *or* an F1 for me

I don't believe that I would ever use all the controllers at once...its more that I like the new modular paradigm as it lets me experiment with workflows for different styles and I like having options for that.
yep - same here. i love being able to mix and match different small controllers and using my mdimasher makes that really simple. i just create different mini configs and then use whichever i need with whatever controllers i fancy using. a config isn't tied to a specific controller - only a controller with controls named the same way within it's midi masher devices file. the device config files handle the different midi needed between the controllers - similar to what vdj does. traktor sucks for this imho.
Diogo Dj Dragão
18.04.2012
Nope.
Debora Wassink
18.04.2012
Any dates on these yet? Been quite interrested in the CMD Pl-1 (the jog wheel thingy) seems like a valid alternative to the denon sc2000. But all these units look great.. Just fuckin sick of waiting. waiting on the K2 aswell.. that thing never fuckin arrives in the stores.. was planing on using it as an internal mixer in traktor, but since the wait have been this long im believeing about just waiting for the behringer mixer hub.
Leota Dolney
18.04.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
You can bet that I'll be getting an F1 as soon as it's released. It's cool kit for sure.
Likewise. I really do love the move toward modular controllers. My workflow is not always the same for everything and I like having the flexibility to select an appropriate set of controls for whatever I need. Plus, experimenting with different workflows leads to more creativity for me. I like having multiple ways of doing the same thing.

Although I started on vinyl, I don't really use jog wheels much. But I can see mapping the jog wheel on the CMD PL-1 to control multiple FX params...it gives a different level of expressivity than just turning a knob or pressing a button.
Diogo Dj Dragão
18.04.2012
You can bet that I'll be getting an F1 as soon as it's released. It's cool kit for sure.
Leota Dolney
18.04.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
the F1 hardly seems like an alternative to the MM-1 PL-1 :P
I agree, I want all 3 ;-)
Leota Dolney
18.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
the PL-1 and MM-1 do look very cool but don't see how an F1 would replace them? i believe i'm going for a K2 over an MM-1, mostly for the button section, more buttons overall and buildin soundcard. but as a pure midi mixer the MM-1 does look pretty sweet. there again - if the MM-1 was released "soon" then i could probably get that and an audio2 for the same price as the K2...

the LC-1 kind of goes head to head with the F1. not full rgb, but more pads, more extra buttons and the 8 encoders could be used to control volumes and filters on the 4 slots...
I didn't mean that they would replace an F1...I want to get all three ;-) It's just that if the CMDs were released earlier I could get them and then save up and get the F1...as it stands...I have to wait for all three...basically I am just impatient!!!

I have an X1 and K2 and they work pretty well for me. The F1 will be it's own thing for Remix deck...(I'm looking forward to that since I really don't like the current sample decks). The PL-1 is more for playing around really, and the MM-1 Is cheap enough to serve as a mixer controller with line faders, EQs and a filter for each deck...plus it has a built-in usb hub...

I don't believe that I would ever use all the controllers at once...its more that I like the new modular paradigm as it lets me experiment with workflows for different styles and I like having options for that.

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