Deadmau5: "burn all electronic music down, i don't care"
Deadmau5: "burn all electronic music down, i don't care" Posted on: 27.11.2012 by Rochel Papillion Dj Sneak got all butt hurt over this interview, which then started a bunch of other people stating their opinion about EDM 90s rave and techno on twitter and facebook!http://www.mixmag.net/words/news/dea...wn-i-dont-care | |
Pam Stolley 29.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Ham
from what i'm reading in this thread seems sneak likes to call people out and mau5 being the kind of guy he is couldn't resist returning the favor. richie hawtin just did an interview with the nytimes about his college lecture series. interesting read. thankfully he took the high road. Q. Someone could hear a sense of resentment in there, that the music that won the race is not the best music, not the more complex or interesting kinds of music that have been bubbling around for 20 years. A. When does the complex, diverse, subtle music reach the masses? Pop music is music for the masses. The electronic music that |
Darren Teboe 04.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by keeb
I believe you are misunderstanding my stance, so there isn't much more point in trying to get it across. I'll leave it at this... you say we should endeavor to uphold the standard of excellence that's been passed down, yet defend the guy who simplifies all of it down to button pushing and pushing play, and question the guy who calls him out for it. Irony. |
Ok Moroski 03.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
I enjoy Deep House, funky beats, and jazz-like precision in house. However, I don't believe all house should be like that simply because it's one of my preferences. Similarly, I enjoy the distortion, reverb, and general rock-like atmopshere that Electro brings, but I wouldn't shove that down everybody's throat either. |
Ok Moroski 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by sobi
Say what you will about DJMag's top 100, but with deadmau5 at #5 and DJ Sneak not even making the cut - there's at least a bit of evidence to support my theory that about contemporary relevance and that Sneak could potentially gain from this kind of exposure. How many people reading those tweets do you believe have a clue who DJ Sneak is (hint: Sneak has 25k twitter followers, Deadmau5 has 1.75 million)? Nevermind the fact that Sneak's stance (at least as described by Zimmerman in the interview - feel free to let us know if he was making that up/taking it out of context) is anachronistic at best. Sure, we should appreciate house music's roots and we should endeavor to uphold the standard of excellence that's been passed down. However, clinging firmly to past ideas only serves to stagnate musical progress and innovation; and coming from someone you laud as a pioneer, it seems... odd, to say the least. It seems like he's either after publicity as I mentioned above, or is actually afraid of change making him irrelevant. Or mau5 made it up...? |
Darren Teboe 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by keeb
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Margie Pavell 01.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by keeb
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Ok Moroski 01.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
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Pam Stolley 29.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Ham
from what i'm reading in this thread seems sneak likes to call people out and mau5 being the kind of guy he is couldn't resist returning the favor. richie hawtin just did an interview with the nytimes about his college lecture series. interesting read. thankfully he took the high road. Q. Someone could hear a sense of resentment in there, that the music that won the race is not the best music, not the more complex or interesting kinds of music that have been bubbling around for 20 years. A. When does the complex, diverse, subtle music reach the masses? Pop music is music for the masses. The electronic music that |
Rochel Papillion 05.12.2012 | Video of the Mau5 on a mixer (look like DB4 with two X1) only got to the first 20 min to make sure it wasnt some bull and it is not guess him not caring about anything kind of make sense now |
Ryan Schlich 04.12.2012 | What Deadmau5 said is unfortunate but true. You really can't complain though. (or shouldn't) EDM is going through a phase. As a DJ who plays mostly EDM these days, I really don't care if it dies out either. Ill just move on to bigger and more creative things. Sure maybe he is over payed, over simplifies his productions, and isn't a real DJ (He says so himself) but he is popular and marketable. Furthermore, he never really sold out. His music and style has been consistent throughout his career. He can't help being famous. Also, EDM becoming popular has led MANY other artists who aren't as popular to produce AMAZING songs. People will eventually stray away from the mainstream in each individuals attempt to stand out in this world. Newer and better things will come out, only to be eventually sucked into the mainstream. Ive been DJing for years but I really don't care how mainstream it has gotten and how every 15 year old wants to be a DJ. It levels the playing field, and it pushes me to be even more creative. If a kid can do what you do and takes your job, you only have yourself to blame for not trying to evolve and improve. Its like sitting at home complaining that Lil wayne is killing hiphop, when you can do yourself and the world a favor by producing better tracks than him. TL/DR: People complain and cry too much instead of empowering themselves to do greater things |
Darren Teboe 04.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by keeb
I believe you are misunderstanding my stance, so there isn't much more point in trying to get it across. I'll leave it at this... you say we should endeavor to uphold the standard of excellence that's been passed down, yet defend the guy who simplifies all of it down to button pushing and pushing play, and question the guy who calls him out for it. Irony. |
Ok Moroski 03.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
I enjoy Deep House, funky beats, and jazz-like precision in house. However, I don't believe all house should be like that simply because it's one of my preferences. Similarly, I enjoy the distortion, reverb, and general rock-like atmopshere that Electro brings, but I wouldn't shove that down everybody's throat either. |
Rochel Papillion 02.12.2012 | I didnt know who Sneak was until he went after SHM, but I knew of the other guys that are associated with the birth of house/techno. I like what he does but I kind of raise n eyebrow at the House gangster shit, at the same time im glad he kind of goes after these people cause call it what you want but dont be telling people your bubble gum stuff is house; if the thing has no feeling or soul |
Dorie Scelzo 02.12.2012 | Why do DJs keep supporting this worthless cunt? |
Ok Moroski 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by sobi
Say what you will about DJMag's top 100, but with deadmau5 at #5 and DJ Sneak not even making the cut - there's at least a bit of evidence to support my theory that about contemporary relevance and that Sneak could potentially gain from this kind of exposure. How many people reading those tweets do you believe have a clue who DJ Sneak is (hint: Sneak has 25k twitter followers, Deadmau5 has 1.75 million)? Nevermind the fact that Sneak's stance (at least as described by Zimmerman in the interview - feel free to let us know if he was making that up/taking it out of context) is anachronistic at best. Sure, we should appreciate house music's roots and we should endeavor to uphold the standard of excellence that's been passed down. However, clinging firmly to past ideas only serves to stagnate musical progress and innovation; and coming from someone you laud as a pioneer, it seems... odd, to say the least. It seems like he's either after publicity as I mentioned above, or is actually afraid of change making him irrelevant. Or mau5 made it up...? |
Darren Teboe 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by keeb
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Margie Pavell 01.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by keeb
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Ok Moroski 01.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
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Antonetta Wikel 01.12.2012 | Sneak may be many things but a poser, he is definitely not. That guy's been spinning and producing house tracks for decades. |
Ok Moroski 01.12.2012 | Deadmau5 is apparently a dick (publicly) but he makes tunes that I enjoy. Sneak is apparently a dick (publicly) and is only even relevant to me because I saw him on Pioneer DJSounds once... You're always going to have the "old guard" when it comes to EDM. What amuses me about this whole thing is that Sneak of all people is trying to be that "old guard," and flat out is just using it as an excuse to bash on people who are more talented than he is. Not saying I'm in the same league as any of the above, but Sneak seems like a damn poser is all I've gotten out of his rants; guess the mau5 wins this PR battle... |
Pam Stolley 29.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Ham
from what i'm reading in this thread seems sneak likes to call people out and mau5 being the kind of guy he is couldn't resist returning the favor. richie hawtin just did an interview with the nytimes about his college lecture series. interesting read. thankfully he took the high road. Q. Someone could hear a sense of resentment in there, that the music that won the race is not the best music, not the more complex or interesting kinds of music that have been bubbling around for 20 years. A. When does the complex, diverse, subtle music reach the masses? Pop music is music for the masses. The electronic music that |
Yong Aptekar 29.11.2012 | hack, failed DJ, everyone hates him, makes terrible music, blah blah blah. So much hate for an opinion that isn't any different than the opinions above. Fact is, the Mau5 makes tracks that fill dancefloors. The whole reason any of us do what we do is to make people dance. He's seems to have accomplished that. Celebrities will be hated by some, lothed by others and loved by the rest. The ones that speak up about how terrible of a person he is, need to look inside themselves. Does it matter in the end to you if an artist says something stupid? |
Kanesha Bredin 29.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by era 7
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Emerson Crist 29.11.2012 | Very well said. I actually had a drink with him a few years back after a set here and he is the most down to earth guy ive ever met. |
Werner Bile 29.11.2012 | In the interests of pointlessly stoking the fire of this argument, here is dnb veteran AK-1200's response:
just saw some of the little beef with Sneak and DMau5. no surprise. anyone who was back there in the early days of any culture or industry all had to do it the hard way, and carve the path and create the foundation for what would eventually reinvent itself a million times over and over. just like Henry Ford or Thomas Edison, some people are key figures in the development of something special. some
thing life changing. something truly worth nurturing and using as a guide for things to come. fast forward to a new generation, and the pioneers get replaced and forgotten and rarely get a nod for their contributions or their innovations, especially by the people who should most appreciate it. the ones who actually gained from the trials and tribulations of those who preceded them. For electronic music however, true electronic music and electronic musicians, whether their instrument was 2 turntables and a mixer, or if they were dissecting the capabilities available by the AKAI or EMU samplers, or learning the best way to manipulate compressors or oscillators, they all did this with pure passion, never ever believeing that they can turn this into an enterprise. that was the record labels who sought fame and exploitation, never the artists. There are so many legends over 20 years deep in the game, who still have that passion and still believe that substance will ultimately outshine the nothingness that has become of this thing called EDM. These artists have and still would play multiple hour sets for their crowds, creating a lasting memory in the form of what we used to call "the journey". I am glad to have withstood the tests of time, and managed to do my best to maintain relevancy for 20 plus years only because I have the passion for the one little tiny corner of dance music I happen to play. Drum and Bass music has kept me around as a DJ and as a fan of music, but I respect House music, I respect Techno music. I respect the heart it takes to stand by your passion and take jabs constantly on message boards and now on you tube comments or facebook pages or twitter feeds. All I can believe of, is after so long, people take the wool (or cake) from over their own eyes, and see clearly, and begin to research for themselves what it is about this scene that makes them stay loyal, and with that comes the education of its history, and one day, one year, long from now, people will say, yeah these were the guys that really made it happen the hard way, and led the revolution and started the evolution. and look at these little periods of time when all that was compromised for novelty. I feel proud to be one of the people who helped carve a path in America's scene, and nobody can ever take that away from me, as it is and will always be my legacy. Dave AK1200 |
Margie Pavell 28.11.2012 | i have a friend that met and worked with funkagneda...he had nothing positive to say about him... |
Cindie Somoza 28.11.2012 | I just tip my hat (not actually wearing a hat.....) to the DJs and Producers who don't get caught up in this childish bullshit and just get on doing what they love, those are the people I respect (even though there are very few these days) |
Myles Hasken 28.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
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Birgit Gondal 28.11.2012 | tony dee got involvd with funkagenda on twitter as well, believe funkagenda shut him up with this... "House is a feeling, and when you feel it you will understand that house music is freedom. Freedom to be who you want to be…" "It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter where you come from. For in my house we are all free…" "One Nation. God's children. Coming together in the spirit of house…" Pretty sure all those lyrics are from a "real" house record. And I'm pretty sure the second verse didn't mention SHM, Joel or anyone else being omitted from the list. So suck my dick. Surely that's the ulimate face palm? Having your entire argument blown out of the water by your own music? lol touch |
Myles Hasken 28.11.2012 | Does anyone else really like this guy? I listened to his early stuff and thought it was different but to be honest his shit now is so stale and boring. If it's what you're into, get after it. I believe this guy is a piece of shit and is as overrated as they come. |
Margie Pavell 28.11.2012 | I thought Dave Clarke shut him up...apparently not... I have a theory that Mr. Mau5 is a failed DJ... |
Alla Bluemke 28.11.2012 | totally agree. He should really just shut his mouth now.... |
Romelia Stankard 28.11.2012 | The sneak stuff was entertaining a several months ago but it is getting kind of pathetic. |
Rochel Papillion 28.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Era 7
beat me to it lol fuckin damn it lol |
Tesha Freudenstein 28.11.2012 | Funkagenda:
"My music is real house! Your music isn't real house! My dad could beat up your dad! My mum is better than your mum!" Grow the fuck up.
my shit is better than most of you all put together. fuck a chart. make something people will appreciate in 25 years from now.
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Romelia Stankard 28.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by keithace
Nobody with any sense cares what he believes. |
Margie Pavell 28.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by xonetacular
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Margie Pavell 28.11.2012 | There are two ways to be an honest person life. One way is with tact and humility. The second way will get you punched in the mouth. Mr. Mau5 chose to do it the second way with the wrong person. (Just because you are being honest it doesn't make you right...you are only being honest as far as YOU'RE concerned) |
Rochel Papillion 28.11.2012 | they are going at it on twitter...technology lol 302699_10151295213777733_22051365_n.jpg |
Valeri Holderness 28.11.2012 | keep in mind deadmau5 never grew up in the club culture that most djs did (including the djs on this community
that gig regularly). he didn't start off djing at clubs, becoming part of a community of djs, having attachments to particular venues, etc. Quite frankly, although some of things he's said I agree with, he doesn't get djing. he doesn't understand nor care for what it takes to become a qbert, z-trip or hawtin. sure there are guys who just "string together" tunes, but there is also such a huge artistic side to djing that he doesn't acknowledge. on a side note, apparently he makes onesies now. deadmau5 onesie.jpg |
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