where is the build up of a song?
where is the build up of a song? Posted on: 02.12.2012 by Jolynn Schroyer I have traktor pro 2 software.I enabled the setting that tells me numbers above each track. *forgot* the name of the setting. I still not sure where the build up is and when to bring in the next track and when I do they clash or sound terrible even with sync enabled. My mixes are quite boring since I can't find certain spots. Even with the number bar showing how many bpms and bars. Are every track put at the same spot by numbers? like build up is always at 8 bars every track or is that something I need to know by the change is sound? | |
| Roseanna Signorini 02.12.2012 | Seriously?? I mean...seriously??? This can't be for real.... |
| Ryan Schlich 02.12.2012 | Yea I didnt want to call him out on that. There are enough 15year old DJ enthusiasts who want to do it just because its the cool thing these days. If hes passionate itll show. OP posts a bunch of "mixes" on this community . Dubstep, trance, house, etc. some 40+mins. Im surprised he doesnt know what hes asking.. |
| Tera Baragan 02.12.2012 | I just dont even know. Only reason I started djing is because my friends said I had an abnormally good song selection for just a regular listener of electronic music, so I started to delve into it more about 3 years ago. Op sounds like he wants to mix to be famous. Not because he is passionate. Passion would come from knowing the songs he is trying to mix in and not having 200 + posts yet still asking how to mix in... without a mixer or controller lol |
| Erica Charvet 02.12.2012 | That mix was really confusing. Why not just grab a bunch of songs with intros and outros and do some simple mixes back and forth? That's where everyone starts. |
| Ryan Schlich 02.12.2012 | Thats the right attitude man. It really seems like you want to learn so thats great. If youre really passionate about something go out and explore the huge amount of info out there, dont rely on asking people for guidance. There are plentyyyy of places and people who can help you along the way, but in the end its up to you how you learn and take the information. (much of which is already out there, in brilliant articles and videos put together by DJs) Best of luck, and HAVE FUN. I suggest looking up some mixing tutorial videos on youtube. DJing is SIMPLE. (and there is a difference between simple and easy) |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | Alright no offense taken. Will do more searching! Lost into a land of community s. Now i want to figure how to insert vocal samples from movies. Gragh i'm getting ahead of myself here. |
| Ryan Schlich 02.12.2012 | We can spend a lot of time trying to teach you the basics of DJing, OR you can spend your own time looking it up. There are SOOOOOO much more resources now than there was when I started DJing. So Its kinda annoying seeing you barely try. Instead of wasting your time sending us 5min clips of crap, go do a community search. Here's a link so you don't have to look. http://www.djranking s.com/category/...s/basicdjtips/ Dont mean to sound like an asshole, but youre like that drunk chick bothering the DJs asking them to teach you. no offense. |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | Yeah when i get my first paycheck i'll probably buy some headphones but they are like 200.00 bucks for the one I like. Now i need to do outro into intro. Edit: Okay let me find some new tracks these waveforms are consistent until the end. just (((((((((((((( then dies. lol basically these tracks i just used has no flat line at the end no this ----------- |
| Cole Maroto 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by hola amigos
Dubluw put this into a visual format that should give you the idea---
Originally Posted by DubluW
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| Cole Maroto 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by hola amigos
once you've got the idea of normal transitions where the songs are easiest to mix, then you can start adding in other areas to transition with accompanying effects. you've got to start at the beginning and learn from there...and get yourself a way to cue your tracks immediately. |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | Alright i tried what you said left the echo button out. Tried intro into outro. What do you believe? http://soundcloud.com/ali3nb0y/intro-into-outro edit: oops i don't have two tracks playing at the same time. I just use the "fade in" then "fade out" Then "fade in" and "fade out" basically one track fades in then it fades out into the next track. Does that make sense? |
| Margaretta Hebenstreit 02.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by hola amigos
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| Lillia Datson 02.12.2012 | You'll need to overlap the intro of one song into the outro of another, whilst slowly EQ'ing parts of the old track out. Especially for Trance style music as trying to mix the chorus of it can sound horrid! Just nice clean transitions. ( )=main beat of the tune -=outro/intro of track ) Old track ))))))))))))))------------- New track -------------)))))))))))))) |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | yeah thats the only way i know how to transition is echo button. i'm trying to mix without a mixer and headphones. Just traktor 2 software. |
| Cole Maroto 02.12.2012 | you're not mixing anything in that quick mix. it's just echo/freeze into 2 tracks that don't really make sense over and over again. i believe at this point just stop trying to mix into the breakdowns and do a standard a>b mix by transitioning at the outro of track a into the intro of track b and letting the songs play together without using any effects at all (only use eq and volume). for the style of music you are playing that will probably be a 1:00-1:30 overlapping period. that should at least help you out with phrasing a bit and understanding what songs work together a little better. |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | A crappy quick mix. Trying to transition from one track to the other. Doesn't sound good. http://soundcloud.com/ali3nb0y/critters |
| Alyce Southey 02.12.2012 | the build up is exactly as it says... the spot where it builds up. alot of tracks its where you hear that kick or snare go from 4 a measure to 8/16/32 etc etc. you usually have a intro, then a break or not, the build up. its the point before the " drop" or climatic parts. where alot of fans/crowd feel is the big booming part, makes you say ohhh i like that , and such. its building up to the climax. and then the breakdown is obviously the opposite. breaking down from the climax to release tension into the next part. youll see in traktor with size of the waveforms kinda where stuff is.if you use spectrum version and see the different colors you can kinda tell where sections are. youll notice tracks start out small and get large in size, and then smaller section in between. with same bpm ( that number about songs, as you say) you can mix the new track in usually fairly easily when using the breakdown of playing track to mix in the intro of new track. look on youtube for dodge and fuski tutorials. they have a song structure tut/lesson that kinda breaks down the layout of most tracks. |
| Asuncion Yeakel 02.12.2012 | C'mon guys don't be so harsh, but just listen to the music and i'm sure you can figure it out man its not that hard. |
| Emerson Crist 02.12.2012 | Wow, just wow. Are you even listening to your tracks? Im not normally a d**k on these community s but you really need to understand the basics of song structure and basic music listening before you should even purchase hardware or software. If you really need step by step instructions on how to find a breakdown, then follow the steps below: Take a few months of just listening to tracks, no mixing. Just get an mp3 player and listen to them. Then, take a few more months and decide what kind of music you like. Then take a few months and decide what style of that music you like. Then take a few weeks to buy some tunes of that style. Then, get some gear . Take a few months of just learning that gear and software inside and out. Then, take a few more months of learning how to do basic mixing of said music we collected earlier. Buy more music. Listen to that music, then listen to your collection again. Cultivate your library. Take a few more months of time to learn some basic tricks of DJing. Buy more music. Listen to that music, then listen to your collection again. Cultivate your library. Talk to some people in your area about playing somewhere. Not a club or bar, but maybe a coffee shop, and hookah lounge or an art gallery. Buy more music. Listen to that music, then listen to your collection again. Cultivate your library. By now, youll know what a breakdown is. If you still want to be a DJ at this point, then youre a lot farther progressed then most newcomers nowadays. |
| Era Roka 02.12.2012 | Are you kidding me?? How did you made it this far into this community ?! 181 posts?! Search youtube for dj lessons or something, but dude a build up?! Everyone knows where the build up is! It's that part of a song where the confetti canons get loaded, the champagne bottles are shaked and crowd gets ready to jump! |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | I'll try a short 5 minute mix and upload here so you can hear what i'm talking about. |
| Antonetta Wikel 02.12.2012 | The Ol' Mix by Numbers ploy. I did a paint by numbers of the Mona Lisa and sold it to the Louvre in Paris. Made a Killing!!! Seriously?!?!?!? |
| Jolynn Schroyer 02.12.2012 | Not sure when to bring in a new track and stop the one thats playing. |
| Ryan Schlich 02.12.2012 | Listen to the track... Geeze do you really need traktor to tell you EVERYTHING? You cant listen to the song and decide yourself? |
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