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Practice Sets?
Posted on: 17.11.2012 by Narcisa Czyzewicz
I am guessing this has been asked/answered before, but I am having a hard time confirming such -

I am wondering about good "practice sets" - I can find a lot of good information on the importance of practice, how to practice, techniques, etc. But no practice set lists to work from!

I recognize that an very important part of DJing is song selection, but that is just one skill that actually needs to build as a set with the technical tools, so having a prebuilt setlist from a knoweldgable DJ to practice other skills would help understand how songs work together, and then thus build the song selection skill?

I guess I am looking for a bit of a kickstart tool - do any such lists exist? Or would experienced DJs here be willing to contribute such?

I would also see it as valuable if there were some sets that were all freely avaliable tunes (free demos/soundcloud/etc) as well as purchasable tune lists. (myself, I would probably take advantage of both)
Arnulfo Morten
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by elliot1106
yolo xox
hahah lmfao /\

@docfish i know where your coming from man people learn differently. i've had lessons and the instructors that stand behind me and told me what needed to be fix as i mixed, and i've sat with another instructor we picked 6 songs and he did a simple mix and i replicated it and he explained the steps as i was replicating it. i learn better the second way. i guess it comes down to being able to hear and know what my mix is suppose to sound like before i make it. but if you try to replicate a very complicated mix.... well thats for later on haha
Linda Chavda
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by docfish
right.. And that is why every other persuit.. Creative or otherwise.. Has practice patterns and exercises.. Many very formalized such as drummers rudiments, karate katas, etc.

I am happy for you that your unbounded talent just flow naturally and everything you produce is an instant superhit. For the rest of us there is a bit of work necessary.
yolo xox
Narcisa Czyzewicz
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by elliot1106
Inspiration to any degree is still better than asking for direct practise guidelines like revision for your maths paper haha
Right.. and that is why every other persuit.. creative or otherwise.. has practice patterns and exercises.. many very formalized Such as drummers rudiments, karate katas, etc.

I am happy for you that your unbounded talent just flow naturally and everything you produce is an instant superhit. For the rest of us there is a bit of work necessary.
Linda Chavda
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
i don't do this but saw it and thought it was funny haha

"good artists copy but great artists steal"
-Pablo Picaso
Inspiration to any degree is still better than asking for direct practise guidelines like revision for your maths paper haha
Arnulfo Morten
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by elliot1106
Creativity is spurred from doing your own thing not strict regulations.
i don't do this but saw it and thought it was funny haha

"good artists copy but great artists steal"
-Pablo Picaso
Linda Chavda
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by DocFish
Because on day one you knew everything about producing and gold dripped from your fingers.. you woke up one day, thought to yourself "hey peter, I believe we should be a producer" and sat down and cranked out a series of platinum releases.. Of course, that assumes you know anything at all now.. And since I had never heard of you before you found yourself compelled to boost your own pitiful little ego by attempting to put down a stranger, we can assume THAT didn't happen..

way to keep the theme of negativity going on the thread man..
Creativity is spurred from doing your own thing not strict regulations.
Narcisa Czyzewicz
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by elliot1106
Sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

...if you're a producer then do your own tunes, if you wouldnt know where to start then you can't be much of a producer
Because on day one you knew everything about producing and gold dripped from your fingers.. you woke up one day, thought to yourself "hey peter, I believe we should be a producer" and sat down and cranked out a series of platinum releases.. Of course, that assumes you know anything at all now.. And since I had never heard of you before you found yourself compelled to boost your own pitiful little ego by attempting to put down a stranger, we can assume THAT didn't happen..

way to keep the theme of negativity going on the thread man..
Linda Chavda
18.11.2012		Sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

...if you're a producer then do your own tunes, if you wouldnt know where to start then you can't be much of a producer
Stanley Peckman
18.11.2012		If you are just looking for inspiration then browse mixcloud; its part of the upload deal that you list out the artist and tracks that are in the mix when you upload it.

Apart from that you just have to figure out what sounds good to you before letting other people here your interpretations....
Narcisa Czyzewicz
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by rdale
I put up full track listings on my soundcloud, feel free to give my last mix a listen get the tracks and have it, PM if you have a question with the time marker and I will try and give an answer.
Thanks - I'll definitely give it a listen at least! And thanks for putting the friendly back in the site
Narcisa Czyzewicz
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by AllDay
Most people are rattled by your post because the number one thing people tell a new dj is to be working on song selection. If you were to produce then yes taking someones full set and seeing what they did makes sense. But mixing song a into song b is 80% selection and 20% mix
Hmm... ok, i guess that makes a little more sense - would it have rattled fewer cages if I had said "as a controllerist.." and "practicing controllerisim.."? I am really working more towards the producer side, in fact I found this site looking at the midi fighter as a producer/performance instrument and had never really considered DJing as related to what I was doing until I came here and saw some of Ean Golden's and Mad Zach's controllerist tutorials. This site kinda smears together production and djing with its heavy focus on controllerism. I kinda see it as a spectrum in the controllerism space - production on one side (purely original music with perhaps samples from others), djing on the other (artistically mixing others music) and a lot of people on THIS site, somewhere inbetween (altering others tunes enough to make them original-like)

Still, even straight up djs seem to preach practice practice practice, and it is NOT just song selection. Not sure you could teach or practice taste - I definitely wasnt looking for songlists to teach me what is good music..
Freida Leash
18.11.2012		I put up full track listings on my soundcloud, feel free to give my last mix a listen get the tracks and have it, PM if you have a question with the time marker and I will try and give an answer.
Tera Baragan
18.11.2012		Wowee broski. Double post
Tera Baragan
18.11.2012
Originally Posted by DocFish
Really? You just turned this from the one of the friendliest appearing community s on the net to one of the most obnoxious. Good job.

But really - I do a lot of things other than "DJing", and in all, practice and learning from others is the key. For example, I fly areobatic model airplanes. There are lots of training videos, descriptions, etc of how to do specific manuvers - barrel roll, illemean, flat spin, etc.. and it is possible to master a single one.. but you also need to know how to set up your plane, what kind of plane works for a particular type of move, and more importantly how to string those moves together into an effective competition sequence. There are ALSO experienced pilots who share or explain sequences for lesser experienced to learn from.

At first, to learn, ABSOLUTELY! A great way to learn anything is to replicate someone elses efforts, then when you master that, you extend it with your own "flavor:.
Most people are rattled by your post because the number one thing people tell a new dj is to be working on song selection. If you were to produce then yes taking someones full set and seeing what they did makes sense. But mixing song a into song b is 80% selection and 20% mix
Narcisa Czyzewicz
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by RockingClub
You can look for a Beatport mix or a continuous mix on a CD you like. Then have a look at the song list and if you like, try to recreate the mix to understand how it was mixed.
I personally started with mixing my favorite tunes aiming at a transition as smooth as possible though.
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
well to answer your queston find a dj you really like and check for his playlist or set list.... choose songs from that list with similar bpm and sounds like that would go good together and full versions of songs with a nice 32 bar intro. learn your phrasing and beatmatching. understand some songs just don't go well together and you can't mix them in instead you have to just cut on the 1. learn the 32 bar phrasing and start mixing outro's over intro's. Practice and Enjoy!!!
Both good suggestions, thanks.
Narcisa Czyzewicz
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by 3heads
Sorry, but this must be the most bizarre question I've seen around here....and there's many bizarre ones...
Really? You just turned this from the one of the friendliest appearing community s on the net to one of the most obnoxious. Good job.

But really - I do a lot of things other than "DJing", and in all, practice and learning from others is the key. For example, I fly areobatic model airplanes. There are lots of training videos, descriptions, etc of how to do specific manuvers - barrel roll, illemean, flat spin, etc.. and it is possible to master a single one.. but you also need to know how to set up your plane, what kind of plane works for a particular type of move, and more importantly how to string those moves together into an effective competition sequence. There are ALSO experienced pilots who share or explain sequences for lesser experienced to learn from.
Originally Posted by brocklambert
So you want to replicate someone else's set?
At first, to learn, ABSOLUTELY! A great way to learn anything is to replicate someone elses efforts, then when you master that, you extend it with your own "flavor:.

Ean Golden even does it here on this site - this is a great example
http://www.djranking s.com/2012/06/1...erism-routine/

Not only shows the technique, but gives you the tracks to try it out. Using the same tracks lets you "play along" to learn, then later, apply the same technique that you now understand to some other tracks

Originally Posted by brocklambert
Pick some music YOU like and mix away.
Of course - but some practice will make THAT much easier! You dont learn to sing with originals, you dont learn guitar with originals.. etc..
Arnulfo Morten
17.11.2012		well to answer your queston find a dj you really like and check for his playlist or set list.... choose songs from that list with similar bpm and sounds like that would go good together and full versions of songs with a nice 32 bar intro. learn your phrasing and beatmatching. understand some songs just don't go well together and you can't mix them in instead you have to just cut on the 1. learn the 32 bar phrasing and start mixing outro's over intro's. Practice and Enjoy!!!
Sylvia Greener
17.11.2012		You can look for a Beatport mix or a continuous mix on a CD you like. Then have a look at the song list and if you like, try to recreate the mix to understand how it was mixed.
I personally started with mixing my favorite tunes aiming at a transition as smooth as possible though.
Harley Zitka
17.11.2012		So you want to replicate someone else's set?

Pick some music YOU like and mix away.
Celestine Porebski
17.11.2012		Sorry, but this must be the most bizarre question I've seen around here....and there's many bizarre ones...

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