Buying a Mac, Buy now or wait for new Pro to drop.
Buying a Mac, Buy now or wait for new Pro to drop. Posted on: 17.05.2012 by Jenna Skeem So heres my dillema been having serious issues with my pc so i decided to go mac.Been researching into macs and discovered that a new MBP Line will be dropping fairly shortly using Mountain Lion. Do i buy the current late 2011 MBP model and lnow that Serato itch is going to work with lion or wait for the new ones to drop only to discover serato wont work on mountain lion. Thoughts? Jay Russ | |
| Rena Estabrook 29.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
http://community s.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1389284 |
| Sylvia Greener 13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
11" Air ... smaller size... Ok... But isn't a 11" screen a bit too small? I personally, would never consider an Air at the moment: Bad specs for way too much money. |
| Dorie Scelzo 12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Sublim&All
(that was the sound of me sticking my tongue out at the 13" air and making that noise little kids to to make people know they don't like them) The 13" MBP is 2 pounds heavier and much more of a computer for the same price. The 13" Air is a detector that identifies people with more money than sense. The entire point of an Air is the 11" screen. I'm really starting to believe a 13" screen is too big to carry and really wish they'd just make an 11" MBP with no optical drive, dual FW800, dual Thunerbolt that would accept 3rd party ram and Sata3 drives with the existing 11" MBA screen. As it stands…the 11" Air might be good enough. It's just sad that it's more expensive than my existing MBP was a year ago and is less powerful. It's even sadder that I'm considering it because I hate carrying around that huge thing (and it's the size, not the weight that annoys me). |
| Rena Estabrook 29.06.2012 | The $30 workaround is even more annoying. Apple really should provide the 13" users the adapter. This is similar to the iPhone 4 death grip but at a much smaller scale. |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.06.2012 | Hunh…weird. That's slightly annoying. |
| Rena Estabrook 29.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
http://community s.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1389284 |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.06.2012 | Yeah…that was a weird decision just to save a bit of space…it took like 10 minutes to figure out. |
| Nedra Fresneda 29.06.2012 | Did you change the headphone jack behavior to act as an input in the system prefs? |
| Rena Estabrook 29.06.2012 | Audio In for the 2012 13" MBP does not work. |
| Dorie Scelzo 13.06.2012 | I'm considering an Air. I believe the last 13" MBP from right before the upgrade is going to win out because of Firewire and not wanting to deal with USB 3.0 compatibility issues yet, but it's a serious consideration if they upgraded their stock SSDs to something that isn't embarasingly slow. 11" is small, but it's ~1440x800, I believe…which is more real estate than my 13" laptop. Text might get a bit small, but I'm not sure I care. I really miss the 12.1" non-widescreen Powerbooks. I still believe they were the best compromise between size and functionality. |
| Sylvia Greener 13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
11" Air ... smaller size... Ok... But isn't a 11" screen a bit too small? I personally, would never consider an Air at the moment: Bad specs for way too much money. |
| Dorie Scelzo 12.06.2012 | between what? 11" Air: 2.4 pounds 13" Air: 3.0 pounds 15" Retina Pro: 4.5 pounds 13" Pro: 4.5 pounds 15" Pro: 5.6 pounds |
| Linda Chavda 12.06.2012 | The new mbp are really thin, what are the new weight differences? |
| Dorie Scelzo 12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Sublim&All
(that was the sound of me sticking my tongue out at the 13" air and making that noise little kids to to make people know they don't like them) The 13" MBP is 2 pounds heavier and much more of a computer for the same price. The 13" Air is a detector that identifies people with more money than sense. The entire point of an Air is the 11" screen. I'm really starting to believe a 13" screen is too big to carry and really wish they'd just make an 11" MBP with no optical drive, dual FW800, dual Thunerbolt that would accept 3rd party ram and Sata3 drives with the existing 11" MBA screen. As it stands…the 11" Air might be good enough. It's just sad that it's more expensive than my existing MBP was a year ago and is less powerful. It's even sadder that I'm considering it because I hate carrying around that huge thing (and it's the size, not the weight that annoys me). |
| Viviana Tarno 12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Dorie Scelzo 11.06.2012 | I didn't watch the speech and coverage kinda sucks. Is the new 13" not retina display but with a quad core i7 avilable? did they drop firewire from anything? did they bump the Air up to i7s? And WTF is TurboBoost? Nevermind…found it… 11" Air: bumped to slow dual-core i5 and i7; USB 3.0; Thunderbolt; some upgrades that don't matter because OWC is cheaper and better anyway. 13" Air: same but with an SD card slot 13" pro: bumped to slightly faster dual-core i5s & added dual-core i7s; USB 3.0; Thunderbolt; FW800; SDXC 15" pro: quad-core i7s; usb 3.0; Thunderbolt; FW800; audio in & out ports; SDXC 15" w/ Retina Display: Dual Thunderbolt; USB 3.0; HDMI; SDXC; NO FIREWIRE WTF, Apple!? Seems like an okay upgrade in general, but I'm bummed that they didn't put quad-core i7s in the 13"…'cuz that's the biggest laptop I'd ever want to carry. It's weird, but I'm actually considering that my next laptop might be an 11" Air. If TurboBoost doesn't specifically hamper Pro Tools perofrmance, it should work okay with a drive in a Thunderbolt chassis. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 11.06.2012 |
Ya dude, new pros are awesome but no retina
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| Kasi Kyung 11.06.2012 | Ya dude, new pros are awesome but no retina, but I'd totally rock a 13". That new thinner mbp is SEX, but $1k more expensive |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 11.06.2012 | Not gonna happen, the notebooks have already been wrapped up 15' Pro / Air-like for 2k with a freaking wow spec though. |
| Dorie Scelzo 12.06.2012 | I seriously doubt it. Personally…I'm hoping for an 11" MBP with no optical drive, Firewire (with an Avid-qualified chipset), Thunderbolt, a slot for a standard SSD (though I'll deal with throwing away another slow HDD if I have to), a couple USB ports, and a matte display that's at least 1080p. I'd preorder it and sell my current MBP as soon as I verified that PT 10 works. But I'm also not even close to holding my breath. |
| Sylvia Greener 12.06.2012 | New Macbook Air and Macbook Pro announced a few minutes ago! |
| Viviana Tarno 11.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by RockingClub
I have a 2011 13" MBAir, and it tends to outperform the latest 13" MBPro on various performance tests. Thanks to the SSD, it is amazingly fast. I can restart in a matter of seconds and programs start up in a fraction. This thing is amazingly powerful. OT: I am quite curious if they are going to make some big changes on the (design of the) MBPRo. Would they finally be daring to remove the CD drive and the slow standard HDD? |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.05.2012 | I'm already using a 120GB SSD…and there are bigger ones available for the air, up to 480GB and performing a fair bit better than the stock SSDs. So, that's not an issue. Being limited to 4GB of ram could make a difference, but I haven't run out yet even on big projects. The limiting factor–by far–is only having a dual-core i5. Quad-core i5s with reasonable clock speeds would fix that. So, you're right…they're not great as they are…hence wanting an 11" pro. I just hate having to choose between a computer that'll run what I want it to and a computer that's not designed by morons (like the 13" Pro…too big to be portable, to small to be usable on a desk without an external monitor) |
| Basil Forshee 29.05.2012 | Hmm, I don't agree on that manner. For 9/10 people a MBA will do. They don't call the MacBook a Pro for no reason . |
| Sylvia Greener 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
+ only 64 or maximally 128GB !!! Mac Book Air is way overrated and overpriced and only usable for checking some emails... Like the Dr.Dre's beats: style kills functionality |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.05.2012 | Yeah. It's just prettier. I could almost switch to the 11" air, but the processors won't support what I need to do yet, hence hoping for an 11" quad i5 pro. I'd also need a thunderbolt FireWire card with the right chipset, which might be harder. |
| Basil Forshee 29.05.2012 | Indeed, not to mention the resolution of the MacBook Air, which is 1440*900 I believe for the 13 inch. |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.05.2012 | That display doesn't exist yet, AFAIK, but it'd be nice. The current 11" displays are 1366x768 and still look okay. My 13" MBP is 1280x800 and is right at the cutoff of what I consider decent, which sucks because the rest of the world believes its good. |
| Basil Forshee 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
11" 1920*1080, it must be so sharp and there's more room for stuff in Ableton and even Traktor. It would be the ultimate mobile laptop. |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by ctg23
Originally Posted by JDFS
Vinyl is the only physical media I don't hate, and that's just because it's fun. No one has fun with DVDs.
Originally Posted by JDFS
Also, I'm pretty sure I never want a laptop bigger than 11" again. Maybe they'll finally bring out an 11" MBP to replace the 12" ones that they discontinued with the PowerPC G4s. Those were always the best sized computers for me. And all the Air really needs to be useful is a FW800 port and a real processor (i'd be perfectly happy with a quad core i5). |
| Basil Forshee 29.05.2012 | For that one or two times every now and then you'll be using the optical drive, just buy an external disc reader? It's like what, $ 25/€ 20? I hope they leave out the optical drive and replace it with another HDD/SSD. They can leave out the ethernet cable too, since a laptop is optimized for mobile use. Who doesn't have WiFi nowaydays? Personally I hope that they will use high resolution screens so that you can see 'more' on your screen. My MBP 13 has just the right size, but I wouldn't mind to have some more things to look at on the screen. |
| Leigh Dollyhigh 29.05.2012 | i get you can download most installation software, but the thing im struggling with is dont you need a cd to install your broadband provider to start with? |
| Ming Devis 28.05.2012 | ^ Ha so true. The only cd's/dvd's I buy these days are ones from the bargain bins at stores. |
| Dorie Scelzo 28.05.2012 | Haven't watched a movie off an optical disk in years (well |
| Leigh Dollyhigh 28.05.2012 | i was gunna say how would you install things? most things still rely on cds for installation. |
| Sylvia Greener 27.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
It's a setback if you always have to carry around an external optical drive with you. Why should you want to do that? |
| Dorie Scelzo 27.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmwnutfrombirth
My Optical drive has been dead for, well, I'm not sure how long. I noticed it in like november some time |
| Leeanna Ayla 27.05.2012 | wait |
| Wei Lebeaux 27.05.2012 | With no optical (CD) drive and no ethernet port? I'll pass.. |
| Jacquie Whipp 17.05.2012 | Just wait, new Macbook Pros are "supposed" to be unveiled in a few weeks at WWDC. I don't know about Itch as there's a lot more hardware devices for it and therefore potential problems, but as a Scratch Live user, I've used the last 4 major versions of OSX (10.4, 10.5, 10.6, 10.7), and never had a problem with them working when the new verions comes out (often despite Serato's warnings that it's not "compatible" yet). |
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