Suggestions for further improving the firmware
Suggestions for further improving the firmware Posted on: 19.01.2009 by Madelyn Dunmon Hello!I hope this thread fits in nicely here - I haven't found any where you could post some suggestions for future FW updates, so I thought it would make sense to start one. First of all, I really appreciate the work that went into these mods, and I hope I can contribute a little bit to make these even better! So, here are my suggestions (maybe even for Version 1.4?): 1) Missing MIDI outs Some buttons can not be programmed to switch their LEDs on, even if in theory they should have this capability. So far, I have found the "preview", "set cue" and "cue play" buttons, as well as the jogwheel lights, but I am pretty sure there are more of them lingering around. 2) ability to switch LEDs OFF (and enable BOTH of the Dual LEDs) It would be very nice if we could switch the dual LEDs (with 2 colors) OFF completely. So far I believe this is not possible, since all LEDs only seem to know 2 states. Edit: add the abilty to also switch BOTH LEDs ON at the same time 3) Fix the "flickering LED Bug" I have tried to use a blinking LED to add another visual state to a LED and so far succeded, but there is an annoying bug where all LEDs flicker when you send out a MIDI message to a LED. This is a general problem, but especially annoying with blinking LEDs because then your whole VCI is constantly flickering like a X-mas decoration :eek: 4) dimmable LEDs Not sure is the hardware even allows this, but it would also be nice to able to dim certain LEDs. Would be better in a low light situation, where you don't switch off the LEDs completely, but dim them down so you can still see some light. These general improvments to LEDs would make it possible to use more sophisticated visual feedback on the VCI-100 LEDs And here is another one: 5) Kill switches on all EQ knobs Again, don't know if the hardware allows this, but special kill switch MIDI Notes on _all_ EQ knobs instead of just one would be nice. Would be happy to see some of these suggestions be incorporated in future releases. Discuss and add more to the list if you like and keep up the good work! regards, Frank | |
| Madelyn Dunmon 22.01.2009 |
Rule number one of the midi hardware designers bible.
- Hardware must be stupid as fuck at all times, |
| Adolf Hit 22.01.2009 | IMO Rule number one of the midi hardware designers bible. - Hardware must be stupid as fuck at all times, All processing/translating should be done by the drivers or another piece of software like BOME's. Writing your firmware like this is fine if you are designing it for yourself and have a very clear idea of how you will use it, but if you are designing a commercial product its a bad idea, coz it will frustrate Bento, MF cough cough |
| Madelyn Dunmon 23.01.2009 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
I have done this just for a few buttons and it really blows up my config. If I imagine I would have to do this for the FX Section, it would result in plain madness. Especially LED Control and the necessary saving of LED State over 3 banks would be nearly impossible to do! (Beware that there is also a bug in Tpro which seems to ignore modifiers completely with LED Output) So I would suggest to a) keep the internal switch with Vinyl Mode and especially the FX Banks or b) release different FW Versions, one with and one without these wirings. Believe me, if you are doing complex mappings with lots of functionality (I'll show mine soon ) you are so glad you don't have to burn another modifier for these things. What would be very important nevertheless is to decouple the 4th FX Button from the FX ON Button under the Balance knobs. (as already done in 1.3, I believe). I would also suggest to have "Touch On / Off" Notes also in Seek Mode and to have different Midi Notes for the "Pitch Bend" Jog Events in both Vinyl and Seek Mode (as of FW 1.2, always the same notes are sent) |
| team DonX 22.01.2009 | My requests: 1) 14bit jog resolution 2) Kill Notes for ALL knobs (2 notes for every filter knob, left and right) and for the x-fader 3) 2 other signals for x-fader (like 2 knobs): one for the left side (0-127) and one for the right side (0-127) |
| Xavier Emanuels 21.01.2009 | Sorry i stand corrected you cant do that i just tried and the midi mappings i thought were there are not - you could do it running a copy of bomes midi though, but that isnt the point of this thread. Forcing the tsi file into knob mode and using invert might yield the results you guys are after - it was a pretty common occurance to have to do these sorts of tricks in the previous version of Traktor. Anyway as another feature request i would like the vinyl button not to do an internal "modifier" on the jog wheels - this is very do able inside of traktor and would allow us to map that function somewhere else. |
| team DonX 21.01.2009 |
Originally Posted by frankiee
I need that too... |
| DJ Strutzip 21.01.2009 | there is a command which activates whenever the platters move, effects bank selection button is touched, and when most other transport buttons are pressed. the official TSI/TKS files use it for focus selection. I would like the effects selection button working, but the platters get bumped too often and make using the function for deck focus unreliable. the rest are just excessive. this would make it possible to use the one button for reliable deck focus selection and notification by LEDs, instead of the three buttons I have assigned now! |
| DjMAX MONTANA 20.01.2009 | -14 bit midi (high res) -4th button on right under each wheel (now the PLAY button) should light up when pressed, - 1.2 firmware software as a SEPARATE download if you ever just have the need to "keep it real (original)" |
| Shane Fergusson 20.01.2009 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
of the vci knobs and buttons as you like and then upload them to the unit. now you have fixed values and you have to go with whats given to you why should i wait for a firmware update to have extra options or even if i want to change a simple buttons control message to another. on trigger finger,novetion sl 25 even my first controller evolution x-sessions had an editor to change and edit its conficuration of each button and knob and then dumb it to the unit. my opinion is that vestax should make this available for its usb controllers, its a step forward making its products more versatile. |
| Madelyn Dunmon 20.01.2009 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
I have fiddled around a lot with the setting and the only thing I achieved only using a knob was quite the opposite I wanted: now, turning the knob to the far left turned the kill _off_ while all other positions turn the kill _on_. Just inverting the assignment did nothing, maybe there is even a bug with traktor. Nevertheless, would be much easier to implement anyway if there was a special note sent like with the "mid low" button when you turn the knob to the far left. |
| Xavier Emanuels 20.01.2009 |
Originally Posted by -dIm-
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| Shane Fergusson 20.01.2009 | how about a vci-100 Firmware/midi editor were you can edit all the functions and assign your own. almost all usb midi interfaces have this and its ashame that Vestax doesnt produce one for the VCI, i would pay for one |
| Xavier Emanuels 19.01.2009 | Good idea here is my list of requests - 14bit midi support Absolute Messages from the jog wheels + relative messages from the jog wheels Effect switch buttons do not engage internal presets on the device but instead send midi messages. LED light control of the 3 lights next so the effects selection buttons. I also agree with all of the feature requests above besides number 5 which can be done inside of traktor anyway - but maybe that functionality would be useful for other programs also which dont have such a good midi implementation. |
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