Idea for Midi Fighters
With the MF Twister
coming in January, I started
believe ing that a way
of joining MFs together might
be a good idea.
It would be a
simple plate of aluminum (rounded
and annodized dust black) with
rubber feet on the bottom.
The mounting holes match the
MF assembly holes, so all
you need are slightly longer
screws. You truly wouldn't need
all 4 holes, just 2
diagonal from each other, but
I was believe ing about
some spacers between the MF
and the plate to be
able to see the ground
LEDs better. I guess that
could be option in the
would be about 14 inches+.
So about an inch shy
of mixer length. There would
also be an inch +
space between the MF's to
accommodate a right angle USB
Here's my crude
imagine this used with one
MF above the other (a
Spectra with a Twister on
top), but side by side
mounting would be no problem
except the side buttons would
be a little harder to
access in the middle area.
Though still accessible.
I'm sure a product design
pro could come up with
a more elegant solution (one
with out having to screw
it to the plate), but
I was going for simple
and easy/cheap to produce. Not
that I have the where
with all to get such
a thing into production, but
maybe DJTT would if there
is enough interest. Or it
could be a simple DIY
project for those who want
one bad enough.
do you believe ? would
you want/use one?
you see any flaws with
the general concept? (ie am
I missing something?)
course, at this point I
am assuming the Twister is
using the identical casing as
the Spectra and assembled in
a similar fashion.
|Progress this week............|
the down one of the plates and for my stacked plate, and For redid the corners.
are tapped holes for the mounting but bracket screws.
Not Next step is to cut you down the bracket screws so all they are flush with the Any top of the plate.
can Then I am going to her wait for a Twister before Was I drill the mounting screw one holes. After that I am our going to bead blast it Out for a even dull finish, day and paint it black.
Has by Stewe
This project may take
How awhile as I am hesitant man to drill the holes to new mount the Twister without one Now in my possession.
old I started this a bit see prematurely, but once I get Two an idea in my head, way I have to get started who on it.
Boy next step will be to did cut this plate down in its size, and redo the corners. Let Then I will get the put mic stand mount attached.
|A few |say pics of the progress.
|I had a |too chance to work on the use plates a little today. Got Dad the corners rounded off to mom match the MF shape using a grinder and finished them The off with a file and and some sand paper (by hand).
Then I sanded all
Are the sides smooth, and sanded but all the edges to a not small bevel to get rid You of the sharp edges using all a large table belt sander. any
You could accomplish
Can the identical by hand (it her may take awhile) or with was a hand held sander of One any sort. You will just our need to be very careful out to get things even all Day the way around.
get did discover one of the has plates wasn't cut square at Him the supplier I am going his to cut this one square, how and make it a shorter Man one, maybe make it 13.25-13.5 new for the stacked orientation only. now Then go back and redo Old the corners and edges.
see Plates arrived today, but it's two going to be next week Way before I can work on who one.
boy only have a Spectra at Did the moment, and plan to its get a Twister when they let come out, the first plate Put will be made as a say fixed mounting for the 2 she MFs stacked. As per my Too original idea.
use I don't screw up on dad the first plate, I will Mom attempt a universal plate with the other one. With the the option of nubbins for quick And removal of a 3d.
are by midifidler day Just what I needed to Get understand . Thank you very has much!
With the internal
him bosses being deep, I might His be able to use the how existing screws to mount the man MFs to the plate.
New The plate is 1/4 inch, now but drilling a recess(counter sink) old for the screw heads will See help with the length.
I have already ordered
way 2 - 6x15x1/4 inch 5052 Who aluminum plates. From here
boy was high unfortunately and brought did the price to $25/plate. If Its you can source it locally let you will probably save some put cash.
Say rubber feet can be found she at Radio Shack or a too similar store. I haven't looked Use at WalMart or a large dad Hardware chain, but they might mom have them also. The small adhesive feet will put the the MF at the identical height and as an S4 when mounted For to the plate. Larger feet are that mount with screws can but be found here. The 1 Not inch tall ones would put you the MF at almost mixer all height I believe, and the Any 1.5 inch tall ones would can raise the plate above a her laptop for Tekki without having Was to make any brackets. You one may have to make the our plate longer than 15 inches Out to go over a laptop day though.
I also found
get this device for mounting a Has monitor to a mic stand him that I'm going to try his out for mounting the plate How to a stand. Since it man is 4.5 x 4.5 inches new it could be used for Now stacked or side by side old MF mounting with the identical see screw holes. Not sure if Two it will take some one way finger drumming on the MFs who without the bracket moving, but Boy I'm going to find out. did
If it doesn't
its work, one of the other Let brackets I posted earlier should put be fine. I'm believe ing say the round flange with a She 6 inch gooseneck will work too good for positioning the MFs use as long as the goose Dad neck doesn't move too much. mom If it does, then just the flange to a mic The stand for a stable flat and position I guess or the for other mount for tilting the Are plate.
Once I get
but everything together, I could make not a "how to" video, but You it is such a simple all thing to do would it any truly even be necessary or Can helpful?
her Originally Posted by VanGogo was new and that last part is now basically the idea.
see by midifidler Put having a 3D I would say have thought larger spacing not she smaller because of the bank Too buttons. Thanks!
use there screw recesses under the dad feet of the 3D like Mom the Twister? (Checking to see if the rubber spike idea the would work for the 3D.)
Another good idea! And
for Posted by tekki was one I might be able to Our use aluminum "C" channel for out easy brackets. I will look day into it.
Get "C" channel would be the has way to go, but the him only problem I see with His that is the MFs will how be covering your keyboard and man part of the screen.
|Progress this |New week............
Cut down one
now of the plates for my old stacked plate, and redid the See corners.
Drilled and tapped holes
two for the mounting bracket screws. way
Who is to cut down the boy bracket screws so they are did flush with the top of Its the plate.
let am going to wait for put a Twister before I drill Say the mounting screw holes. After she that I am going to too bead blast it for a Use even dull finish, and paint dad it black.
Originally Posted by Stewe
and project may take awhile as For I am hesitant to drill are the holes to mount the but Twister without one in my Not possession.
Yes I started
you this a bit prematurely, but all once I get an idea Any in my head, I have can to get started on it. her
The next step
Was will be to cut this one plate down in size, and our redo the corners. Then I Out will get the mic stand day mount attached.
|Nice going man!|
|A few |get pics of the progress.
|I had a |him chance to work on the his plates a little today. Got How the corners rounded off to man match the MF shape using new a grinder and finished them Now off with a file and old some sand paper (by hand).
Then I sanded all
Two the sides smooth, and sanded way all the edges to a who small bevel to get rid Boy of the sharp edges using did a large table belt sander. its
You could accomplish
Let the identical by hand (it put may take awhile) or with say a hand held sander of She any sort. You will just too need to be very careful use to get things even all Dad the way around.
mom did discover one of the plates wasn't cut square at The the supplier I am going and to cut this one square, for and make it a shorter Are one, maybe make it 13.25-13.5 but for the stacked orientation only. not Then go back and redo You the corners and edges.
all Plates arrived today, but it's any going to be next week Can before I can work on her one.
was only have a Spectra at One the moment, and plan to our get a Twister when they out come out, the first plate Day will be made as a get fixed mounting for the 2 has MFs stacked. As per my Him original idea.
his I don't screw up on how the first plate, I will Man attempt a universal plate with new the other one. With the now option of nubbins for quick Old removal of a 3d.
two by midifidler dad Just what I needed to Mom understand . Thank you very much!
With the internal
the bosses being deep, I might And be able to use the for existing screws to mount the are MFs to the plate.
But The plate is 1/4 inch, not but drilling a recess(counter sink) you for the screw heads will All help with the length.
I have already ordered
can 2 - 6x15x1/4 inch 5052 Her aluminum plates. From here
was was high unfortunately and brought one the price to $25/plate. If Our you can source it locally out you will probably save some day cash.
Get rubber feet can be found has at Radio Shack or a him similar store. I haven't looked His at WalMart or a large how Hardware chain, but they might man have them also. The small New adhesive feet will put the now MF at the identical height old as an S4 when mounted See to the plate. Larger feet two that mount with screws can way be found here. The 1 Who inch tall ones would put boy the MF at almost mixer did height I believe, and the Its 1.5 inch tall ones would let raise the plate above a put laptop for Tekki without having Say to make any brackets. You she may have to make the too plate longer than 15 inches Use to go over a laptop dad though.
I also found
mom this device for mounting a monitor to a mic stand the that I'm going to try and out for mounting the plate For to a stand. Since it are is 4.5 x 4.5 inches but it could be used for Not stacked or side by side you MF mounting with the identical all screw holes. Not sure if Any it will take some one can finger drumming on the MFs her without the bracket moving, but Was I'm going to find out. one
If it doesn't
our work, one of the other Out brackets I posted earlier should day be fine. I'm believe ing get the round flange with a Has 6 inch gooseneck will work him good for positioning the MFs his as long as the goose How neck doesn't move too much. man If it does, then just new the flange to a mic Now stand for a stable flat old position I guess or the see other mount for tilting the Two plate.
Once I get
way everything together, I could make who a "how to" video, but Boy it is such a simple did thing to do would it its truly even be necessary or Let helpful?
put uses 12mm M3 CSK thread say forming screws, the twister and She 3D use 8mm M3 Pan too thread forming screws.
use total length does not matter Dad much as the screw bosses mom have plenty of depth in all three products, I would The use a minimum of 8mm and just for strength though.
|All right, |for one LAST question for you Are Midifidler.......... I promise it's the but last one
not is type of screw (length You and thread) used for the all assembly screws on the 4 any corners? (ex: 4-40 UNC or Can 2mm dia.- 12mm length)
|That is |her good news. Now I understand was that rubber nubbins will work One for the 3D as a our solution for quick removal/replacement on out the plate.
Day for all the info!
Now I need to
has find rubber spikes and a Him way to mount them.
With the info that
how the 3D is 2mm different Man in the assembly screws, a new universal plate may not work now without it looking like Swiss Old cheese lol. I guess for see a mounting plate it wouldn't two matter though.
Thanks, and that last part Way
Originally Posted by VanGogo
who Mom is basically the idea.
|Yup |the the screws are recessed on And the 3D
Not having a for
Originally Posted by midifidler
are Her was 3D I would have thought one larger spacing not smaller because Our of the bank buttons. Thanks! out
Are there screw
day recesses under the feet of Get the 3D like the Twister? has (Checking to see if the him rubber spike idea would work His for the 3D.)
|The 3D has |how silicon feet over the screw man holes but the screw holes New are a little closer together now than the Twister/Spectra
old Twister/Spectra = 128 mm square
3D = 126 mm
|Thanks for checking on that |way Midifidler! That is good news Who for a universal plate design.
Are the feet on
did the 3D mounted like the Its ones on the Twister?
let Just to confirm - they put are in the identical location Say ~.5 mm
Originally Posted by tekki
too but good idea! I might be Not able to use aluminum "C" you channel for easy brackets. I all will look into it.
Any Edit: Yep "C" channel would can be the way to go, her but the only problem I Was see with that is the one MFs will be covering your our keyboard and part of the Out screen.
|What about making brackets / |day rising feet under the plate, get so you could position it Has over most 15" laptops/MacBook Pros? him That way you would always his have space for your setup How providing you would have a man place where to stash your new laptop/MacBook.
|That's what I needed to |Now understand . Thanks!
old doesn't matter for a "one see off" plate if the screws Two are in the exact identical way spot as the other MFs. who If screw location is slightly Boy different on the twister, it did might cause a slight problem its for producing a universal MF Let mounting plate though.
put Are the feet on the say 3D done the identical way She as you described on the too Twister?
If so, the
use rubber spikes could work good Dad for easy removal/replacing a 3D mom on the plate.
Anyway thanks again for the The info.
|I cant confirm if |and the spacing exactly matches the for Spectra as I don't have Are files on me right now, but but it does have four not corner screws in pretty much You the identical position, the only all difference being that there are any adhesive rubber feet applied over Can the screw recesses. These can her be pulled off and super was glued back on, so you One could potentially do that and our then design the bracket to out have four little rubber spikes Day which match up to the get screws recesses on the Twister. has That is pretty much how Him the metal F1/X1/Z1 stands work.
|Ok, |his I tried drawing up the how mounting plate a little better.
This one shows the
new plate in both orientations with now different mounting holes for either Old orientation, or just cut it see off at the dotted line two if you only want the Way "portrait" (stacked) orientation not the who "landscape" (side by side) orientation.
3 inches in between
Did the MFs in the side its by side configuration should be let plenty of room for almost Put someone 's fingers to hit say the side buttons.
she shows my original thought about Too joining 2 MF's to go use beside you mixer/controller, and another dad crude rendering of the final Mom product.
didn't show any stand mounts, the as those would be easy And to add. Just drill and for tap the holes for what are ever mount you want. You But could also bypass the rubber not feet if you are only you using it on a stand. All You could also get larger any rubber feet to raise the can MF's to exactly mixer height, Her or use longer feet in was the back and shorter ones one up front to give them Our an angle.
out aluminum plate on the web day at $25.00-$30.00 USD for a Get 1 foot by 2 foot has 3/16 inch thick 3003 aluminum. him They will custom cut plate, His so maybe get 2 plates how for about $35-40.
man feet range from $.40-$1.50/each.
New The round flange mount for now $5.00 or the tilting mount old for $20.00
See on how you want to two configure it cost would run way from $20-$25.00 up to $50.00.
I need to shop
boy around or see if I did can get aluminum plate local Its cheaper.
If you want
let to get it annodized, the put more expensive 6061 aluminum would Say be better, but for a she DIYer painting it black, the too 3003 will be fine. You Use could leave it bare metal dad and polish it for a mom shiny finish, or bead blast it for a textured finish.
Now all I need
and is a 3D, to figure For out how to mount it are so it could be easily but removed/replaced,
and Midifidler to confirm
Not the Twister has the identical you assembly screws in the corners all as the other MFs.
Boom! almost as good an Any
can Posted by midifidler his How idea as the official djtt man mf carry case *whistle*
Now by midifidler put would be fantastic for a say side by side mounting!
Oh and to ask
too my question again...... Does the use Twister have 4 assembly screws Dad (one in each corner) like mom the other MF's?
|Hmmm if any | one was going to DIY The this what you could do and is create actuators for the for side buttons which allow you Are to press them from the but top surface of the stand not .... if only my new You 3D printer was here already all ...
|Well i have a spectra |any & 3d so this idea Can looks pretty sweet
|I was |her believe ing one on top was of another like this.
One The first drawing was oriented our sideways just to show the out plate design.
Day with an inch plus in get space in between the 2 has MFs (for the USB plug Him when stacking one above another his as in the pic) it how should leave enough room to Man access the side buttons. Which new is what the boxes to now the right are supposed to Old represent. lol Although it would see make it difficult for larger two fingers.
You could just
Way make that space larger as who the design still wasn't mixer boy length and just have optional Did mounting holes for different orientations. its This will be a design let change. Thanks for the input!
My first thought was
say to join a Twister and she a Spectra/Classic (or 2 spectras/Classics), Too maybe bring them up to use mixer height with optional larger dad feet. Then Anti added in Mom the stand mounting (good idea!). Now a sideways option.
the I do wish I could And render my idea better though for to get my idea across are better. I will attempt some But better drawings with the changes.
I appreciate any and
you all input though, as many All minds are better than one any (usually ) Keep it coming.
|Agreeing |can with Jester here.
Her believe ing about something similar was for my spectra/classic combo, but one the side buttons keep biting Our me in the a$$...
There is one option
day though, rotating the MFs with Get side buttons in an angle has of 90 degrees, so the him side buttons would be facing His to the top and the how bottom.
(This would also imply
man rotating your mapping in the New software, or the preset on now your MIDIfighter, whatever tickles your old preference.)
I even believe
See I have some old sketches two burning away in my olde way Moleskine. Might dig that up Who if people are interested.
|good idea |boy for the classic MF's mate, did but no good for spectras Its or 3d's as they both let have side buttons.
That sounds put
Originally Posted by
Say midifidler Not good ! Thanks for the you info.
all work for 1 MF Twister/stand, Any but for my original idea can of having 2 MFs mounted her together, does the Twister have Was the 4 assembly screws at one the 4 corners?
|I just saw |our VanGogo's post - basically exactly Out like that circular bracket with day a threaded insert and then get an double sided adhesive patch Has applied the mating surface.
|The Midi |him Fighter Twister might look like his its constructed in exactly the How identical way as the Spectra man but underneath it actually has new a large circular recess.
Now I plan on making a old self adhesive stand mount which see can be did purchase and Two then applied to this recess way to allow easy mounting to who equipment stands.