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ALL VCI-100's with Traktor Pro (Dj TT official SE mapping) This Thread is closed and the file has been updated. Please post new bugs here: http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=2925 | |
| 20.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by Jinja Ninja
Originally Posted by rjw
Originally Posted by dj_ajay
Originally Posted by djtirgitaliz
Originally Posted by Menno
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| 14.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by faxesystem
yes- its sounds like I didnt finish programing deck A to work in fader fx mode for the jog wheel deck C/D is possible ( any other votes for that?) |
| 14.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by Jack Bastard
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| 20.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by Jinja Ninja
Originally Posted by rjw
Originally Posted by dj_ajay
Originally Posted by djtirgitaliz
Originally Posted by Menno
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| Makkins Clifton 19.11.2008 | Found a solution for the problem with deck A, which occurs when you try to use the left jog-wheel in Fader FX mode. Everytime the plattern is touched (Note A#2) the Scratch On command is sent. This mustn't occur when you are in Fader FX mode because it will always stop playing the current deck. Therefore: -select the above mentioned entry in the Assignement table -set Modifier M2 to value 0 This fixes the problem I included the fix in a TSI with other adjustments: http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=1698 |
| Cédric Dubuis 18.11.2008 | Ean, first of all big thanks for the pro tsi lay-out which even works on vestax v1.1 and v1.2. I was wondering if you are preparing an upadated version of your .tsi with the bug fixes and the C/D deck request, because I see now lots of variants being released, but some do not work on 1.1 and 1.2. Cheers Menno |
| Cesar Zarce 17.11.2008 | Traktor pro hangs when pressing juglle /toggle fast a few times. !!!! solution // dont press it to fast repetitive.... unplugg vci 100 and traktor un frezes. |
| Roger Gomez 17.11.2008 | Hi Guys, Don't know if you are interested but i have modified Eans original mapping with the following changes - Only for SE Version though: -Loop section D => Quantize Toggle -Key Side A => FX Unit 1 On Deck A -Key Side B => FX Unit 1 On Deck B / C -Filter Side A Button => FX Unit 2 On Deck A -Filter Side B Buttton => FX Unit 2 On Deck B / C -Original Gain Knobs are now Deck Volume Control -Effects Unit 1 = Chained, Effects Unit 2 = Advanced -FX Bank Controls 3 banks of FX across Unit 1 and 2 for a total of 12 independent effects control (See Below for map) with direct selection (Deck C Controls removed from FX bank section) -FX unit 2 Reverbs now include Freeze -Both Faders are now permanantly control Dry/Wet on effects units -Fader FX Mode controls jogs for dry/wet and tempo for rates -Scratch/CD-JOG all work properly now for deck c -All deck B controls now operate deck C in deck c mode include monitor, deck load and all (where possible) are soft control enabled. I believe thats most of the changes i made. I am believeing of building a mapping which includes DECK D mode. I am going to approach this by using the above mapping as a basis but replacing FADER FX mode for Deck D control (because reasonable fader fx control is now permantly enabled) I will also implement Deck C on side A and Deck D on Side B. Will let you guys know if i make successful progress. I know some may feel that important functions like gain, key etc are now missing. But I have enabled these and more like focused deck control, loop/beat moves jumps on my keyboard for fast access. I have also added a version of the TSI which swaps deck c control for deck D so it lines up more intuitively on the screen (well for me anyway). ______________________ FX Map (Knob 1,2,3 Controls FX Unit 1 and Knob 4 Controls Advanced FX Unit 2) Bank A: Phaser, Flanger Pulse, Beatmasher & Reverb Bank B: Phaser Pulse, Flanger Flux, Gater & IceVerb Bank C: Phaser Flux, Filter 92 LFO, Delay & Mullholland Drive |
| Riccardo gava 17.11.2008 | If you're implementing the Deck C/D function, it would be good to have the toggle button linked to a layout change, so those decks got bigger when you selected them. On another note, is it possible to increase the Q on the filter (the one now built into the EQ, not the one in the FX section) ? It sounds weaker than a weak lemon drink at the moment, there must be a way to increase the resonance?! Anyone? |
| Linette Ebb 16.11.2008 | Ean that would be so awesome with the Deck C/D switch feature! of course Deck C should be on the left and D on the right I just didn't mention it. Of course the button should be toggle and not hold for this feature. I'm uptight looking into the future for this awesome template! Thanks a lot for your effort. I really have to say, that I would loose the oversight over the midimappings with all these modifiers in it. Greetings, Faxe |
| Garrett S 15.11.2008 | Button light bug? When using the Performance Modes none of the little black knobs (Deck C On, Fader FX, Juggle On) activate the corresponding lights (little Fader red light, little Deck C red light, Juggle button blue light) when I turn the knobs up. When I watch Ean's VCI-100SE demo videos you can see that those lights turn on as soon as he turns up the little knobs. FYI: I have an original VCI-100 which I have flashed to 1.3 firmware. I am using Traktor Pro and have the new TSI files. (I also have the black overlay and jog grips - not that they affect the functionality but just so you know!) Is this "light bug" just me? Thanks, Alex |
| Roger Gomez 15.11.2008 | Vote +1 for DECK C & D But if this were to be done, it would make sense to map deck C to the left and deck D the right. A further step would be to introduce independent control for d. Also what are you thoughts on Soft Takeover for the volume faders, eqs etc So things don't get confusing? A few bugs i've discovered: Deck C control in filter section: Cue C - is not mapped Fader FX Mode: Does not work scratch is not enabled (as well as deck A fader fx problem stated above - which by the way i was trying to figure out what was wrong but it seems identical to the deck b so no idea whats going on. When you fix it can you please let me know what was wrong, Im trying to learn how to program these tsis as well and it would be good to know). Deck C Mode with Scratch enabled controls deck b using the jog. Cheers |
| Nick Ross 14.11.2008 | That's a pretty sweet idea. |
| 14.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by faxesystem
yes- its sounds like I didnt finish programing deck A to work in fader fx mode for the jog wheel deck C/D is possible ( any other votes for that?) |
| 14.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by Jack Bastard
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14.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by Rick L
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| Kaiser T Tran 13.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by burndownthediscos
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| Tom Werz 13.11.2008 | THis is an update to earlier post i've added the fx unit toggle to deck C. I have also added all the fx so they should more or less match up with se markings. Note though that fx unit 2 has the "snazzier" versions of FX. I also chucked a ring mod on 2 and mullholland drive in 1. Everyone loves a little overdrive right ? Let me know what you guys believe i've been using this for last few days and will be gigging this tsi tomorrow evening . One issue i'm aware of is the juggle button in performance modes switches effect 3/unit2 on/off. I'm looking for a fix. |
| Roberto Carenzi 13.11.2008 | Same FX issues here for deck A. And when in fader FX for deck A and I touch the jog it stops the track. |
| Kaiser T Tran 13.11.2008 | I'm using 1.3 w Traktor Pro w/ vci-100se_1_1_pro.tsi - Is Bank B Deck A supposed to have delay? I'm getting "no effect" when trying to press button to turn effect on. Also not engaging beatmasher with the second button. All other FX are working but Bank B deck A (both delay and beatmasher for deck A) are not engaging or working correctly - Reverb won't freeze anymore. Is this intentional? Thanks |
| Nick Ross 13.11.2008 | Ean, Thanks for the .tsi file. Just wondering if this suggestion is possible... From the last couple .tks files (say 1.2), I had some some changes (based on some great posts here). Unfortunately when you released 1.3, we didn't know exactly what changes you made. For those of us who have customized our mappings, would it possible to get some sort of 'Change Log' listing the functions and midi commands when you release a new version? Even screenshots would be helpful. That way we can manually add those changes to our own VCI .tsi. Thanks again! |
| Tom Werz 13.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by blancodisco
I've already done this so will upload when i get home. I've changed the effects in unit 2. They will still match your labels but i have the standard fx in unit 1 and then the snazzy ones like the T3's etc in unit 2. |
| Adil Laresh 13.11.2008 | not sure if its a bug or I am missing something but the loop buttons seems to function as the switch for turning on and off tempo bend.. if i have a loop enabled then when i turn the outer edge of my jog wheel the tempo bend stops working... if i turn off the loop then it starts working again... is this intentional? the button assigned to scratch / juggle doesn't do anything to change the state of the outer jog wheel --- also when effects bank is set to B(no performance modes enabled), the deck b effect button for echo doesn't load anything into the effects bank. --- otherwise loving the tsi especially how the lights work with performance mode... |
| 13.11.2008 | The funny thing is... in the video, Ean only uses this Scratch Effect on Deck B, not A. so perhaps it just slipped through the cracks in the Programming. |
| 13.11.2008 | Yes. Yes. Like a dumbass, I neglected to thoroughly 'QA' this on Deck B. I also experience as faxesystem suggests. Deck B would appear to work properly. It is just Deck A that is 'buggy'. I also believe the idea of deck C button running a deck C & D control would be hot as well! |
| Linette Ebb 13.11.2008 | At first a bigh thanks to eanfor the wonderful template. But now to my problem. It seems to be the same as with blancodisco except that I just have the bug with jog A. If I go into FX mode and turn jog B dry/wet moves and the song on the deck keeps playing. If I do the same on deck A with Jog A the songs stops (like in scratch mode). So seems just to be a small mapping bug. Now to my humble question. Would it be possible to switch the VCI completly from A/B control to C/D control by pressing the deck C button? Thanks in advance and for making my so happy on monday! |
| 13.11.2008 | Ean, Have SE edition with 1.3 running and Jog Grips. Problem: In the how to video, you mention if you momentarily hold/press the 'filter' button say on Deck A, that you can use the Jog Wheels to control main fx wet/dry mix to 'scratch' the fx blend. Sounds super cool in your video. However, when I do it.... touching the outside of the jog wheel, affects only the pitch/tempo bend up/down. If I touch in the inside (the metal part) of the jog wheel, THE MUSIC STOPS, but the fx mix wet dry DOES move up/down. This is while juggle/scratch mode is engaged (button lit up). If i turn OFF the juggle/scratch (not lit) here's what happens. Outside manipulation on the Jog Grips, you get the same pitch bend up/down effect. Touching the metal platter, NOTHING happens. It feels like this may be an overlapping control issue. Could you perhaps map the Momentary or FX MODE of the JOG Wheels to the Inside of the platter to that FX Wet/Dry Mix? Exact same behavior occurs also,when you flip the small fader fx knop full clockwise too. Is this possibly an issue because I use the Jog Grips? thanks for hopefully looking into this and providing an explanation. |
| 13.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by burndownthediscos
(me being lazy) |
| 13.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by shedg
good idea. |
| Roberto Carenzi 13.11.2008 | Just a suggestion. With the looping section, do you believe it would be good when a loop is released or stopped that the loop length returns to the standard 4 count loop. Sometimes after shortening a loop to a micro loop, releasing it then go to drop another loop and its at like 1/32 count because I forgot to lengthen it again, it screws the mix. I've just got to used to the T3 looping techniques. |
| 12.11.2008 | sorry guys, I forgot to add deck copy A/C B/C in that file. It was a long weekend. Yes- there is something weird with SNAP in 1.3. The problem is that we switched snap to a toggle button in 1.3 so its not really compatible with the 1.2 mapping. it basically means you have to hit it twice to engage or disengage. |
| Tom Werz 11.11.2008 | Hi all deck copy A-C and B-C added to Ean's DJTT Official SE TSI Works in both 1.2 and 1.3 Not really for this post but I've added the 2nd TSI which allows effects unit toggling on the mixer. Works as follows: HOLD DECK A OR DECK B ON TOP LEFT LOOP SECTION OF VCI/SE PRESS SMALL DECK C BUTTON IN TOP RIGHT PERFORMANCE MODE SECTION TO TOGGLE FX UNIT 1. PRESS SMALL FADER BUTTON TO TOGGLE FX UNIT 2. I didn't configure the LED as looking at your screen is, well easier but if anyone wants that added give me a shout. Cheers, Stuart |
| Roger Gomez 11.11.2008 | Hey Ean, Thanks again for the hard work in providing the TSI. I have noticed this bug/wierd behaviour/firmware issue: For me in 1.3 mode, Pushing the snap button works kinda weird. Let me explain. Starting with SNAP on traktor engaged and the SNAP button lit up blue. Pushing SNAP again, the button will go white, but no change on traktor. Pushing SNAP button again will then disengage SNAP on traktor with the button remaining white. Then pushing it again will have no effect on either the button or traktor. Pushing the fourth time will then engage traktor SNAP and turn the button blue. Is this the way its designed or a bug in 1.3 firmware for that particular button? As I also notice that this unexpected behaviour is repeated in similar ways when I try and assign that button to other toggle functions e.g if i try and assign it to key lock etc. What to do from here? |
| Cesar Zarce 11.11.2008 | can t copy a to c or b to c ?!?!?!? firm 1.3 |
| Makkins Clifton 11.11.2008 | You should try to unload as many non-needed processes as possible. Have you tried a sample rate of 48 kHz? strangely on some cards it works better than 44,1kHz combined with ASIO-drivers. Ean is still right, it looks either like a driver issue or one with your configuration (but I'm on Windows) so I can't give good advices. Have you checked the NI community s for other users with similiar problems? |
| Karl Forde 11.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
Problem being anything below 20ms = undesirable sound artefacts, modulation and break up. |
| Tom Werz 10.11.2008 | hi Ean, Just to say cheers again for getting this .tsi out so quick. I've noticed in 1.3 that deck copy a-c and b-c doesn't seem to work when a loop is engaged on the deck you want to copy from. I haven't got serial yet so this might be a demo issue and not for full version. After a quick play around I was wondering do you believe it might be useful to use the tiny deck c and fader fx buttons to toggle the fx banks on or off for each deck rather than having to use the mouse to press the 1&2. I'm gonna have a look at it when get home. So maybe 1 button per deck, press once activates bank 1, twice bank 2, three bank 1&2. Is this possible or do these buttons send the same midi data as the tiny pots? Cheers, Stuart |
| 10.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
you need to push the on buttons to select an effect under the knobs. first push loads the effect, 2nd push turns it on. all will be explained in the video on wed |
| Makkins Clifton 10.11.2008 | 20ms will be too high, as built-in soundcards normally have around 40ms which makes it impossible to work with it as a controllerist, well, you can get used to it, but it just feels unreal. Anything below 10ms should be good to work with. |
| Karl Forde 10.11.2008 |
Originally Posted by eangolde
I've raised the buffer to 20ms and it seems to be OK now (as in it doesn't cause that glitch when you cue one of the platters, BUT the scratching itself still sounds very digital (clipping, modulation, a sort of gating). This happens at all latency and bit rate settings. It was 44100 11ms before. However, when I use vinyl control records (I usually have it at about 5ms - Well I did in T3. Haven't tested in Pro yet). As the poster above (Sheph) mentioned, TPro seems much more resource hungry than T3. As for my Mac... OSX 10.4.11 I'm rammed to 2GB (Max for my Black Macbook) HD is cleaned & system optimized (ala Onyx & Disk Warrior) Sound Card is Native Instruments very own Audio 8 DJ with latest drivers. Do you believe 20ms is high? What latency setting are you guys scratching with? |
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