what is the deal with the derailing backspin?
what is the deal with the derailing backspin? Posted on: 03.10.2012 by Lorri Bobar i feel dumb for asking...so in some radio shows and basically every boiler room set i've seen - there will be a couple of times during the set when someone in the crowd or the mc, or even the dj, reaches over to the decks and does a backspin on the active deck which derails the set, then the music stops. and everyone seems pretty happy about it? then they play that same song again from the start. and the dj set continues. http://youtu.be/Tmf44ZIYCKo?t=22m20s - dj does it @ 22m20 http://youtu.be/Tmf44ZIYCKo?t=25m55s - random guy in crowd does it like 3 mins later http://youtu.be/Tmf44ZIYCKo?t=31m20s - mc does it 5 mins after that is it like a tradition or a dancehall thing or something? what does it mean o_O it never happens in the clubs i've been to please pardon my ignorance :P | |
| Nikole Resende 04.10.2012 | Rewinds / Pull-Ups originate in the dancehall culture, and then found their way into music scenes that where largely influenced by that culture, especially D'n'B (influenced first through ragga jungle) and, later, 2 Step. It's typically not the DJ who decides to rewind a track, but a reaction to the crowd, who demands a rewind by e.g. putting their lighters in the air or at least reacting frenetically to a new track. It's typically the reaction to a great or rare track, often a dubplat or special version. Of course you can do it with any kind of music (house tracks with 1 minute "mix-in" intro's aside.. ), but I'd be careful if I was playing to a crowd that wasn't familar with the phenomenon, as they might believe "what the feck is that DJ doing" when you stop the hit you just started, or just assume you pushed stop on the wrong player |
| Hipolito Scionti 04.10.2012 | Rewinds at jungle raves in vinyl days with hype and stevie hyper d Loved that shit |
| Cole Maroto 03.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by LoopCat
back on topic: i also find it jarring when it's just a sloppy rewind. if it was smooth i would get it because it would be more like an effect, but that bonobo one was odd sounding. i wonder if he okayed that with him before he did it because i would be mad if someone else did that to me when i was playing. i can see others points about using it as a mix out to drop another track, but for the sake of just rewinding it just sounds weird to me. |
| Ming Devis 03.10.2012 | Ah yeah your right. Both of them are unreleased and probably my favourites of that mix. No worries, I'll post in hear if I see anything. |
| Cole Maroto 03.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by LoopCat
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| Ming Devis 03.10.2012 | ^ Aww man how nice is that track - I believe I read somewhere its fourth coming on ninja tune. Ive been keeping my eyes and ears peeled. |
| Cole Maroto 03.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by LoopCat
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| Lina Rawie 03.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by smittten
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| Len Lukawski 03.10.2012 | I like to pull that trick with any of my Rhianna tracks and then drop some wicked Chris Brown. Sometimes I am smoking of the pipe |
| Lina Rawie 03.10.2012 | Aside from what oli said, it can also be used to deliberately kill the energy in the room, then bam - you hit 'em with an even bigger tune. The combination of "WTF?" when the music goes off and "oh shit!" when the next track comes in can work really well, plus you can use it as a way to transition to a song that's a big change in BPM from the last one. Back when Jump Around by House of Pain was getting lots of play in clubs I used to do it with that, because it has one of those intros that gets people hyped. |
| Ming Devis 03.10.2012 | haha you forgot this classic rewind - Boiler Room again 4:55 Real good set though |
| Marguerite Salsedo 03.10.2012 | I don't have any platters with my current set up so it's a little corny for me to do, but it can be simulated with Traktor's TTFX... Still, just feels wrong to really do that for the live purpose without having the track there on acetate. |
| Lorri Bobar 03.10.2012 | you guys do it in live sets? it sounds kinda jarring to me, but maybe when you are there live it's cool :P i haven't been in a club where a dj has done that move. |
| Marguerite Salsedo 03.10.2012 | Pretty much what oliosky said. Rewinds allow you to hear the track unmixed from the start (assuming it was mixed in to begin with) builds hype for the track, etc. This works especially well on a track that has an epic intro. |
| Frederic Acidera 03.10.2012 | Or the DJ is using virtual DJ with automix... |
| Johnetta Olewine 03.10.2012 | Rewinds have always been big in the dnb/dub scene. Its often when dropping a a big new tune. Its been a divisive element of the scene since the beginning. Some love it, some just want the fuckers to get on with it. |
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