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what is the deal with the derailing backspin? Posted on: 03.10.2012 by Lorri Bobar i feel dumb for asking... so in some radio shows and basically every boiler room set i've seen - there will be a couple of times during the set when someone in the crowd or the mc, or even the dj, reaches over to the decks and does a backspin on the active deck which derails the set, then the music stops. and everyone seems pretty happy about it? then they play that same song again from the start. and the dj set continues. http://youtu.be/Tmf44ZIYCKo?t=22m20s - dj does it @ 22m20 http://youtu.be/Tmf44ZIYCKo?t=25m55s - random guy in crowd does it like 3 mins later http://youtu.be/Tmf44ZIYCKo?t=31m20s - mc does it 5 mins after that is it like a tradition or a dancehall thing or something? what does it mean o_O it never happens in the clubs i've been to please pardon my ignorance :P
Birgit Gondal 09.01.2013	Originally Posted by OmniRoss There's a story that the first time Skream played Midevening Request Line at I believe it was FWD, it got rewound 5 times. hahah thats amazing. wheel up dat track!
Johnetta Olewine 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by Conall If the DJ does it then fair enough, I find it really annoying but some people seem to dig it so whatever. I can't believe some of the boiler sets though, if someone reached over the decks and pulled that shit during one of my sets I'd probably turn round and clock them one. It was the bloke that runs the boiler room shows who did the rewind for Bonobo and you can see them having a chat beforehand. If that makes a difference.
Jeffrey Akinsanya 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by LoopCat haha you forgot this classic rewind - Boiler Room again 4:55 Real good set though lol.. random guy! sounds like a decent set thought need to listen to the rest! OP a rewind is commonly know as "Puulllllll upppppppp"
Teresia Janusch 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by PeteWoods fucking shite man, the first evening of the riots Scope lost money on their first booking because noone wanted to go anywhere near shaftsbury square, was pretty sad when it hits the evening clubs as well was walking home a few weeks ago from the stiff kitten and saw a burnt out car, scary shit. i know what u mean man, the town has been dead! i only went out into belfast once during december...which meant i missed zabiela...gutted
Birgit Gondal 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk Off topic,pete are you enjoying the 'protests' as much as im not? traffics been a evening mare! fucking shite man, the first evening of the riots Scope lost money on their first booking because noone wanted to go anywhere near shaftsbury square, was pretty sad when it hits the evening clubs as well was walking home a few weeks ago from the stiff kitten and saw a burnt out car, scary shit.
Birgit Gondal 09.01.2013	Ever listen to dancehall, though? They rewind big tunes like 6 times before you reach the first chorus!
Birgit Gondal 09.01.2013	Originally Posted by OmniRoss There's a story that the first time Skream played Midevening Request Line at I believe it was FWD, it got rewound 5 times. hahah thats amazing. wheel up dat track!
Annalisa Shogren 09.01.2013	You just don't get DJ's like that anywhere but in the glorious motherland. THIS ONE ARMSHOUSE.
Ming Devis 09.01.2013	so many re-loads on this one ^
Annalisa Shogren 09.01.2013	There's a story that the first time Skream played Midevening Request Line at I believe it was FWD, it got rewound 5 times.
Ming Devis 08.01.2013	I didn't mind the rewind it was a bit shit but made it even more memorable. Bonobo is bawse!
Ulysses Vittetoe 07.01.2013	I believe it's fair in the boiler room situations. In the end you're playing for the crowd so it would only make sense for one of them to initiate the rewind, haha. :P
Johnetta Olewine 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by Conall If the DJ does it then fair enough, I find it really annoying but some people seem to dig it so whatever. I can't believe some of the boiler sets though, if someone reached over the decks and pulled that shit during one of my sets I'd probably turn round and clock them one. It was the bloke that runs the boiler room shows who did the rewind for Bonobo and you can see them having a chat beforehand. If that makes a difference.
Inez Marcinik 07.01.2013	If the DJ does it then fair enough, I find it really annoying but some people seem to dig it so whatever. I can't believe some of the boiler sets though, if someone reached over the decks and pulled that shit during one of my sets I'd probably turn round and clock them one.
Jeffrey Akinsanya 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by LoopCat haha you forgot this classic rewind - Boiler Room again 4:55 Real good set though lol.. random guy! sounds like a decent set thought need to listen to the rest! OP a rewind is commonly know as "Puulllllll upppppppp"
Teresia Janusch 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by PeteWoods fucking shite man, the first evening of the riots Scope lost money on their first booking because noone wanted to go anywhere near shaftsbury square, was pretty sad when it hits the evening clubs as well was walking home a few weeks ago from the stiff kitten and saw a burnt out car, scary shit. i know what u mean man, the town has been dead! i only went out into belfast once during december...which meant i missed zabiela...gutted
Birgit Gondal 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk Off topic,pete are you enjoying the 'protests' as much as im not? traffics been a evening mare! fucking shite man, the first evening of the riots Scope lost money on their first booking because noone wanted to go anywhere near shaftsbury square, was pretty sad when it hits the evening clubs as well was walking home a few weeks ago from the stiff kitten and saw a burnt out car, scary shit.
Len Lukawski 07.01.2013	Bagman
Julissa Serrone 07.01.2013	^ hahahahahahahhaahahahha
Len Lukawski 07.01.2013	you know it.
Benjamin Sieh 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by smittten I like to pull that trick with any of my Rhianna tracks and then drop some wicked Chris Brown. Sometimes I am smoking of the pipe this....
Antoinette Harbst 07.01.2013	Backspin is the cancer killing /dj/
Teresia Janusch 07.01.2013	Off topic,pete are you enjoying the 'protests' as much as im not? traffics been a evening mare!
Birgit Gondal 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by OmniRoss Oh gaaad. Neighbourhood kills it everytime. Mr DJ give me that reload. Nothing gets the crowd more excited than a well time reload. I was playing garage/bass to a Belfast crowd that wasn't even that full of fans, most were there for a girls birthday, but I was amazed with the reaction to it. Took so much self control not to rewind Gotta Get Thru This, had to go a bit cheesy to include the casual club-goers there, got the second best reaction of my set haha
Annalisa Shogren 07.01.2013	I saw Danny Byrd about a year ago and he pulled 3 reloads on an at the time unreleased Original Sin track. Everyone was incredible.
Yong Aptekar 07.01.2013	My buddy pulled off one of the cleanest backspins on new years. We started of with House and ended up on DnB by the end of the evening , and he dropped his next track in slightly late, grabbed the record, spun it, and then picked up and dropped the needle right on the proper spot without missing a beat at all. He looked over at me with his eyes bugging out and said hes never done that infront of anyone before. He tried one later and it just didn't go over well at all. I got into all of DJing through dnb and jungle, and was never too fond of the backspin, but it definitely has its place if done well.
Mira Bollin 07.01.2013	What can I say its all about crowd participation. DJ drops a track crowd go mental and the track gets rewound. Back in the day when I was a little raver it would happen more than once. Listen to the old DJ Hype stuff on you tube sometimes 3+ rewinds in an hour. You've got to be there to apprentice rewinds. Its got to be on vinyl too. Digital rewinds sounds, well digital.... Junglist for life!! Big up all. This topic made me join tech tools.
Annalisa Shogren 07.01.2013	Originally Posted by PeteWoods I pulled an awful awful rewind the other week at a gig, the crowd went nuts when i played Mercy by Joy O & Boddika, so I rewound it forgetting it has a really, really long intro. Kinda killed the vibe a bit. Pulled a massive reload on Neighbourhood by Zed Bias though, I had a cue point set for it so it skipped about 45 seconds of the intro, went back to it, hyped the vibe right up! Oh gaaad. Neighbourhood kills it everytime. Mr DJ give me that reload. Nothing gets the crowd more excited than a well time reload.
Birgit Gondal 06.01.2013	I pulled an awful awful rewind the other week at a gig, the crowd went nuts when i played Mercy by Joy O & Boddika, so I rewound it forgetting it has a really, really long intro. Kinda killed the vibe a bit. Pulled a massive reload on Neighbourhood by Zed Bias though, I had a cue point set for it so it skipped about 45 seconds of the intro, went back to it, hyped the vibe right up!
Ulysses Vittetoe 06.01.2013	I love rewinds, especially when some nice UKG is being played. The Skream b2b Disclosure boiler room set comes to mind.
Ming Devis 06.01.2013	New Bonobo album on the way From his facebook - Just a little studio update... I'm almost there with the new record! Getting really excited about it now. Cant give too much info just yet tho, but hold tight for some announcements soon. See you in the new year! Simon Will the unreleased boiler room tracks be on this release? Friggen hope so..
Birgit Gondal 05.10.2012	Originally Posted by squidot back on topic: i also find it jarring when it's just a sloppy rewind. if it was smooth i would get it because it would be more like an effect, but that bonobo one was odd sounding. i wonder if he okayed that with him before he did it because i would be mad if someone else did that to me when i was playing. i can see others points about using it as a mix out to drop another track, but for the sake of just rewinding it just sounds weird to me. i believe thats one of bonobos label mates, look at how nuts he goes when that eliphino track drops again. shit rewind worth it right there haha. I'm a big fan of pulling tunes back if they go off, i'm not really a huge fan of going back to the start though, i believe you go back to the start of the build up and skip the intro, as in that bonobo rewind. great timing on it, even though it sounds crap when he is actually spinning it back.
Brunilda Kora 05.10.2012	The reason for spin backs is simple - dubplates. The crowd WANTS to hear a new tune from the beginning. Today, with EVERY DJ able to create their own edits (effectively, dubplates - something that no-one else has), spin backs (in certain situations, dare I say, GENRES) hold a special relevance. I fuckin' love 'em.
Lashawn Maycock 05.10.2012	Originally Posted by MaxOne Rewinds at jungle raves in vinyl days with hype and stevie hyper d Loved that shit DJ Hype, Hype, gimme the funk, gimme the funk..... Rewinds have been part and parcel of the hardcore/jungle/D&B scene since the early 90's and UKG (as TCMuc said), nothing new. Can be very effective. Can be DJ or MC instigated, usually with some form of crowd interaction (as mentioned futher up thread), you sort of know which tracks are going to get a rewind. Anyway shameless self promotion, starting a brand new show (This Is Our House) on Nu-Rave Radio.com this evening 6-8PM (UK) playing Soulful/Deep/Jackin House and Garage along with some old school/classic house/garage and the odd old school rave/hardcore/D&B tune. Nu-Rave Radio available on line and via Tunein app on iOS/Android etc.
Ulysses Vittetoe 05.10.2012	Originally Posted by dayvue wait guys... what exactly is a boiler room set? Sorry for the ignorance. I started in the hip hop scene and now play a lot of house and "EDM" music. And I've never seen this phenomenon. I tried google to no avail. http://boilerroom.tv/ should get you started
Vernie Kuam 05.10.2012	wait guys... what exactly is a boiler room set? Sorry for the ignorance. I started in the hip hop scene and now play a lot of house and "EDM" music. And I've never seen this phenomenon. I tried google to no avail.
Estrella Rozzo 04.10.2012	Haha, so true. In DnB it's been staple for a mix for as long as I listen to the genre. At first I reaaaaaaally hated it. But since I started spinning tunes myself I really started appreciating them. Some bangers just need to get a proper listen from the intro on. But I'm pretty sure this happens more in some of the more 'intense' genres. Digging the Bonobo Boiler set someone dropped here before, respect.
Isa Erik 04.10.2012	Originally Posted by smittten I like to pull that trick with any of my Rhianna tracks and then drop some wicked Chris Brown. Sometimes I am smoking of the pipe & for the sig
Evelyn Navarijo 05.10.2012	Originally Posted by Patch Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a rewind, boys. Carry on. This. Reloads are mandatory whenever a big tune drops, especially if it's a dubplate.
Brunilda Kora 04.10.2012	Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a rewind, boys. Carry on.

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what is the deal with the derailing backspin?