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Help with frustration controller conflictions...
Posted on: 21.07.2010 by Yuki Homeyer
Hey guys and gals,

I need some help with my controller mappings for the Hercules DJ Control Steel.

On the DJ Control Steel there is a SHIFT button located above 6 other toggle buttons (CC 1-6) on each deck so that, when pressed, the buttons become CC 100-106. As it is currently set up, CC 1-6 control loop size INC, DEC, loop SET, NEXT cue, DEL cue, and PREV cue. I wish to set up CC 100-106 for my chained FX. My ultimate goal is so that when the shift button is pressed, effect amounts are no longer controlled by the existing knobs, but instead by a couple faders and the jog-wheels because they are comfortable for me to work with and allow for quick changes and oscillations.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM:

The shift button is labeled as BOTH CC 19 AND CC 115. When I add a modifier to this button to state that when pressed, FX 1 amount is controlled by jog-wheel and so-on, it doesn't work. I tried adding the modifier to apply to both CC 19 and 115, but it takes two presses of the SHIFT button for the modifier to take hold, defeating it's purpose. If I have to press the button twice, it switches my loop control buttons to FX and then back again.

I'm looking for some suggestions as to how anyone might map this for the desired effect.

Hopefully I explained this well and it's not too confusing.

Thanks,

Kai
Celsa Courtemanche
22.07.2010
If you look at the MIDI data sent in something like MIDI OX, you'll notice the following behavior when pressing the SHIFT button:

Shift_button1.PNG

CC 19 (the button) is being pressed (value 127), then released (Value 0).

CC15 (the LED status) being On (value 127)

This is what you have to use for your modifier.

For example:

Modifier_state.jpg

This is how I assigned my Modifier for something really simple.

- When the SHIFT is OFF, the DECK A Play will work as such

- When SHIFT is ON, the Play button will enable/disable FX Unit 1
Yuki Homeyer
21.07.2010
Hey guys and gals,

I need some help with my controller mappings for the Hercules DJ Control Steel.

On the DJ Control Steel there is a SHIFT button located above 6 other toggle buttons (CC 1-6) on each deck so that, when pressed, the buttons become CC 100-106. As it is currently set up, CC 1-6 control loop size INC, DEC, loop SET, NEXT cue, DEL cue, and PREV cue. I wish to set up CC 100-106 for my chained FX. My ultimate goal is so that when the shift button is pressed, effect amounts are no longer controlled by the existing knobs, but instead by a couple faders and the jog-wheels because they are comfortable for me to work with and allow for quick changes and oscillations.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM:

The shift button is labeled as BOTH CC 19 AND CC 115. When I add a modifier to this button to state that when pressed, FX 1 amount is controlled by jog-wheel and so-on, it doesn't work. I tried adding the modifier to apply to both CC 19 and 115, but it takes two presses of the SHIFT button for the modifier to take hold, defeating it's purpose. If I have to press the button twice, it switches my loop control buttons to FX and then back again.

I'm looking for some suggestions as to how anyone might map this for the desired effect.

Hopefully I explained this well and it's not too confusing.

Thanks,

Kai
Celsa Courtemanche
22.07.2010
If you look at the MIDI data sent in something like MIDI OX, you'll notice the following behavior when pressing the SHIFT button:

Shift_button1.PNG

CC 19 (the button) is being pressed (value 127), then released (Value 0).

CC15 (the LED status) being On (value 127)

This is what you have to use for your modifier.

For example:

Modifier_state.jpg

This is how I assigned my Modifier for something really simple.

- When the SHIFT is OFF, the DECK A Play will work as such

- When SHIFT is ON, the Play button will enable/disable FX Unit 1

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