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Should DJTT make a VCI-300 Mapping/Overlay for Traktor?
Posted on: 01.09.2010 by Jodi Lacerra
The title says it all. If DJ Techtools made and supported a Traktor Pro mapping and overlay (for around $30) for the Vestax VCI-300 would you buy it?

I started working on this mapping a while ago but it quickly got pushed aside as other projects had greater priority. However, if enough people are interested enough in this product to buy an overlay then we could pick up this project again.

Any thoughts or comments will be much appreciated.
Anamaria Ghilarducci
19.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
ok, i believe it's ready for you guys to check out. but hmm maybe Hatch has a good idea and i should just keep it for myself. muah ha ha.....or not. see this thread to download the tsi and post your comments:

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=18123

Thanks to everyone for all the kind words and support!
NOOTTT, PLEASE!

Ahem, glad you were joking. One selfish bragger is enough for this community. Now back to the real deal. Man I'm excited about this, and like everyone else here thank you for doing this!
Anamaria Ghilarducci
16.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Sounds great flashflooder,

I'm looking forward to the youtube video demonstating how smoothly it works and then you not turning around and saying its for your personal use only.
But seriously, your hard work is appreciated by all here. Sharing is caring.

Thanks
Julissa Serrone
16.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Flash, thats awesome news man. Count me in to test it out and if there's anything I can do to help let me know.

Commentor,

We'll see what flash comes up with and then try to add or adjust. Like I said i believe you really need a second controller to maximize what Traktor can do when using the 300 --- but I believe there are enough things the 100 can do great that can be done on the 300. If we use two .tsi for per layer we'll just have to communicate and all use the same modifiers. It could work.
Delilah Jalili
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I hear its a good book
Don't u have anything better to do (like help out with those master lists) Karlos? lol

Btw that wasn't a doublepost on NI community s, can u please fix that. :P
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Hatch
I believe I need the Traktor Bible first.
I hear its a good book
Delilah Jalili
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Really appreciate your efforts Flash.

Speaking of the overlay. I know that I mentioned this before but I believe that a reconfigurable overlay would be best. (Removable vinyl labels perhaps? or maybe a clear plastic overlay with re-writable white-board insert?) As long as the overlay itself looks good/professional, it would serve a dual purpose anyway. IE; Protecting the unit and allowing anyone to use whatever custom mappings they want without having to remember where everything is, which would help instructors/teachers also.
Delilah Jalili
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by haze324
Thank you for stating how I feel!!

Flash,

I believe us 300 users have to realize that the 300 will have limitations in comparison to the 100 that has more buttons and knobs. I
Anamaria Ghilarducci
19.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
ok, i believe it's ready for you guys to check out. but hmm maybe Hatch has a good idea and i should just keep it for myself. muah ha ha.....or not. see this thread to download the tsi and post your comments:

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=18123

Thanks to everyone for all the kind words and support!
NOOTTT, PLEASE!

Ahem, glad you were joking. One selfish bragger is enough for this community. Now back to the real deal. Man I'm excited about this, and like everyone else here thank you for doing this!
Michale Mylet
17.09.2010		Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I believe choice is the key to any controller and having the ability to use either Itch or Traktor based on what you want to do creatively is really what all djs have been hoping for. I'm sure that folks will be able to modify this .tsi as they see fit but it is a great base to finally work with Traktor via the VCI-300. Kudos to you and DJTT! Big props!
Julissa Serrone
17.09.2010		Flash....your a pimp. Thanks.
Jodi Lacerra
17.09.2010		ok, i believe it's ready for you guys to check out. but hmm maybe Hatch has a good idea and i should just keep it for myself. muah ha ha.....or not. see this thread to download the tsi and post your comments:

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=18123

Thanks to everyone for all the kind words and support!
Takisha Hodulik
16.09.2010		wow this could be big for all of u with 300's

the possiblity of using ONE controller with 2 program?!

thats awesome!
Anamaria Ghilarducci
16.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Sounds great flashflooder,

I'm looking forward to the youtube video demonstating how smoothly it works and then you not turning around and saying its for your personal use only.
But seriously, your hard work is appreciated by all here. Sharing is caring.

Thanks
Julissa Serrone
16.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Flash, thats awesome news man. Count me in to test it out and if there's anything I can do to help let me know.

Commentor,

We'll see what flash comes up with and then try to add or adjust. Like I said i believe you really need a second controller to maximize what Traktor can do when using the 300 --- but I believe there are enough things the 100 can do great that can be done on the 300. If we use two .tsi for per layer we'll just have to communicate and all use the same modifiers. It could work.
Delilah Jalili
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I hear its a good book
Don't u have anything better to do (like help out with those master lists) Karlos? lol

Btw that wasn't a doublepost on NI community s, can u please fix that. :P
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by Hatch
I believe I need the Traktor Bible first.
I hear its a good book
Delilah Jalili
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by flashflooder
To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Really appreciate your efforts Flash.

Speaking of the overlay. I know that I mentioned this before but I believe that a reconfigurable overlay would be best. (Removable vinyl labels perhaps? or maybe a clear plastic overlay with re-writable white-board insert?) As long as the overlay itself looks good/professional, it would serve a dual purpose anyway. IE; Protecting the unit and allowing anyone to use whatever custom mappings they want without having to remember where everything is, which would help instructors/teachers also.
Delilah Jalili
15.09.2010
Originally Posted by haze324
Thank you for stating how I feel!!

Flash,

I believe us 300 users have to realize that the 300 will have limitations in comparison to the 100 that has more buttons and knobs. I
Karolis Petrauskas
15.09.2010		Thanks Flash! I am eagerly awaiting your work.

Thanks Again,
Beatzz
Jodi Lacerra
15.09.2010		To give everyone an update, I did spend a good amount of time over the weekend and the past few days working up a mapping for the VCI-300. It is basically done but I have a few final things to flesh out. I hope to upload it here for you guys to test out in the next day or so.

And to clarify, I haven't consulted Ean on the mapping design yet so there are no promises as to whether it would ever be released as a DJTT supported mapping/overlay combo. Either way though, I hope it's decent and ends up being good enough to dj with so those who want to make the switch to Traktor can confidently do so.
Julissa Serrone
15.09.2010		TTT for the 300.

I'm gonna start collecting a fund to donate to Flash and the team for their time. We REALLY need something that works on the 300
Anamaria Ghilarducci
09.09.2010		For those of you who actually understand midi mapping (I do not unfortunately) this discussion about HD Midi might be of interest.

http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=117402

Also Traktor 1.2.7 has been announced but it doesn't seem to help our cause or does it?

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=17838
Anamaria Ghilarducci
09.09.2010
Originally Posted by commentor
Well i'm using Robin's TSI;
I don't use the VCI"s audio, but it would be nice if we could rely on it if needed)
Are you on a PC? Because I tried a couple of the TSI files on my MB and used the VCI soundcard without a hitch and at lowest latency.

Core Audio rocks!
Meg Reinoehl
08.09.2010
Originally Posted by haze324
I believe us 300 users have to realize that the 300 will have limitations in comparison to the 100 that has more buttons and knobs. I
Toni Beechner
08.09.2010		Yeah, this sounds good!
Julissa Serrone
08.09.2010
Originally Posted by Hatch
No one really cares, if you're not willing to share, this is after all a community (yes I know this debate has been had before). And for the love of god your LEDs are soooo annoying. Gloating in my opinion is one of the most despicable forms of human behaviour.


Thank you for stating how I feel!!

Flash,

I believe us 300 users have to realize that the 300 will have limitations in comparison to the 100 that has more buttons and knobs. I
Francesco Generette
08.09.2010
Originally Posted by Hatch
No one really cares, if you're not willing to share, this is after all a community (yes I know this debate has been had before). And for the love of god your LEDs are soooo annoying. Gloating in my opinion is one of the most despicable forms of human behaviour.
you are one good man! speak the truth brother.
Anamaria Ghilarducci
07.09.2010
Originally Posted by commentor
Well i'm using Robin's TSI;

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=7780
...so maybe Robin's is a good starting point?
All amazing work from the mappers, but still very buggy, I wish I could get my head around midi mapping - I believe I need the Traktor Bible first.
Anamaria Ghilarducci
07.09.2010
Originally Posted by djmarcellorc
My Vestax VCI-300 works perfectly with Traktor PRO 1.2.4. See my videos on you tube, search for dj marcello rc or vestax vci-300.
No one really cares, if you're not willing to share, this is after all a community (yes I know this debate has been had before). And for the love of god your LEDs are soooo annoying. Gloating in my opinion is one of the most despicable forms of human behaviour.
Annis Skufca
07.09.2010		My Vestax VCI-300 works perfectly with Traktor PRO 1.2.4. See my videos on you tube, search for dj marcello rc or vestax vci-300.
Meg Reinoehl
07.09.2010		I don't own a 300, but my best friend does and it would be awesome to convert him over from Itch.
Jodi Lacerra
07.09.2010
Originally Posted by commentor
Well i'm using Robin's TSI;

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=7780

Jog wheels work, Pitch bend works, most LED output works (except for VU meters), but it's not 100%.

I would have to say that Robin's TSI's (for v1.2.1) work pretty well for the most part, (if you delete and reload Traktor + controller settings when Traktor is freezing), but development seems to have ceased, it is a fairly complicated mapping, (two TSI's are needed), there is some strangeness going on with some of the LED's, (they glow a half-light green when inactive), the VU meters don't work, audio does not seem to work as expected, (but then i don't use the VCI"s audio, but it would be nice if we could rely on it if needed), there is no overlay, and i would like to see a simpler (no f/x) 4 deck config (with re-configurable overlay) for a single VCI-300 unit, so maybe Robin's is a good starting point?
Thanks for the input guys. I will be sure to check out Robin's tsi and see what I like and dislike about it.

In regards to those asking if/when it will actually happen, I unfortunately do not have a concrete answer. It is a DJTT project that has been continually pushed back and in hopes of rejuvenating it I set up this thread to gauge the interest. There seems to be a decent level of interest so hopefully I can set aside some time in the near future to finish the mapping up and get it to the point of being ready for community testing.

In the meantime though, I would greatly appreciate it if VCI-300 users have any specific requests for functionality that I can make sure to try to incorporate.
Delilah Jalili
06.09.2010
Originally Posted by Hatch
From what I've gathered from the hard work of mappers here, the VCI-300 is still having problems with:
Jog wheels
Pitch bend
LED output.
Well i'm using Robin's TSI;

http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=7780

Jog wheels work, Pitch bend works, most LED output works (except for VU meters), but it's not 100%.

I would have to say that Robin's TSI's (for v1.2.1) work pretty well for the most part, (if you delete and reload Traktor + controller settings when Traktor is freezing), but development seems to have ceased, it is a fairly complicated mapping, (two TSI's are needed), there is some strangeness going on with some of the LED's, (they glow a half-light green when inactive), the VU meters don't work, audio does not seem to work as expected, (but then i don't use the VCI"s audio, but it would be nice if we could rely on it if needed), there is no overlay, and i would like to see a simpler (no f/x) 4 deck config (with re-configurable overlay) for a single VCI-300 unit, so maybe Robin's is a good starting point?
Anamaria Ghilarducci
06.09.2010		If I can get a tsi that allows the vci-300 to work 100% in traktor then I would stay with traktor altogether, but is this even possible with 1.2.6?

From what I've gathered from the hard work of mappers here, the VCI-300 is still having problems with:
Jog wheels
Pitch bend
LED output.
Delilah Jalili
06.09.2010		+1 for dual (itch/traktor) overlay, (or an unmarked/reconfigurable overlay with dry-erase removable/replaceable vinyl stickies perhaps?), with 2 and 4 deck .TSI for a single vci-300.

Some of us just want to play instead of program, and i for one am willing to pay ~$30 for that, as of yester-year.

Maybe we could get everyone interested to work together on a single TSI with basic 2deck/4deck support and have additional TSI's for more complicated requirements.

Another option would be DJTT could establish a list of experienced TSI configgers willing to do custom made-to-order .TSI's (with reconfigurable overlay & layout PDF) (for a list of supported device/s) for around $50 (with satisfaction guaranteed).

A little off-topic but, another idea would be to reward ppl who present improvements and money-making ideas for DJTT, (like the suggestion for this poll, and any future midi-fighter order page enhancements, etc) with a little swag or product discounts perhaps? (wink,wink,nudge,nudge)
Brianne Pepe
06.09.2010		I hate itch. Enough said.
Julissa Serrone
06.09.2010		Flash,

So whats the verdict man --- are we gonna see something in the near future for the 300?? There's a few posts circulating on pages 1 and 2 with mappings for the 300 each with 2000+ views and pages of posts, so I would say there is definetly a need and market for a solid mapping (none really exists).

Understanding the 300 has limitations on knobs and buttons, i believe us 300 owners would greatly appreciate a mapping that has some of the VCI-100 tools: Fader FX, One button effects, etc. The advantage I see of having a 300 is that with a built in sound card, if you plug in two usb's one is the 300 and the other could be an X1 or simliar controller. WIth the 100, using two USB's thats the 100 and sound card. If there was a solid 300 mapping that had the major functions of the 100, the second controller could really be used to wreck havoc and still have a light set up with minimal cables.

Hope you find some time to work on it.
HZ..
Latia Sotak
02.09.2010		I've ticked that i'd purchase an overlay. But it would need to be either removeable or also marked with the original Itch functions, as I'm a keen user of Itch & I imagine i'd want to be able to swap between Itch & Traktor as the mood took me.
Julissa Serrone
02.09.2010		yes count me in.
Len Scelzo
02.09.2010		It would be good to have some kind of mapping for vfx1

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