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TP2/TSP2 Kontrol X1 Deck/Sample Mapping (Biach)
Posted on: 04.04.2011 by Nedra Fresneda
Sooooo due to the request of many users who thought NI's new TSI was a big f*ck you to the people who used the X1 with the native mapping, I'm planning on merging these 2 bad boys.

I will make them compatible with either 4 deck control (A/B native and C/D samplers) and as C/D (if you use a controller/TT/CDJ to control your main decks) being able to toggle deck modes on the fly for the lower ones. This TSI will contain both modes and you will be able to choose between them for tighter integration with your setup. Mode 1 (4 decks) will control FX units 1/2 and Mode 2 (C/D) will control FX units 3/4. If you use 2 X1 you can load both modes and have control over the 4 FX units but in the following layout 1/2 (left) and 3/4 (right).

Any insight before I start working with my ultra secret resizable mapping window (not really)?
Alexandra Nerby
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
In the near future, I haven't got enough time to test deeply and debug that map yet. But yeah, that's the idea of the 2nd map, the 1st one would be a "companion" map.
Ok, good deal.
Keep us updated and thanks for the hard work!
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by Gryz
I haven't tried this mapping yet Padi, but am I understanding things correctly?

I use CDJs for decks A and B and need control over the FX/Volume/Filter ect in my sample decks C and D...

Can I also control the FX/Filter and so on and my main decks A and B with this?
In the near future, I haven't got enough time to test deeply and debug that map yet. But yeah, that's the idea of the 2nd map, the 1st one would be a "companion" map.
Edris Acevedo
03.06.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
This is the version intended for Decks C & D. It's running perfect on 2.0.2.

The A/B (deck) C/D (sample) version should be up in a week.
Cool man. Look forward to it.
Nedra Fresneda
03.06.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
This TSI didn't work for me at all with the revised settings for Timecode you uploaded. Has the new version re-solved this and ok to use with 2.0.2?? thanks for your efforts.
This is the version intended for Decks C & D. It's running perfect on 2.0.2.

The A/B (deck) C/D (sample) version should be up in a week.
Nedra Fresneda
24.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
Yes they only mappings there are the left and right versions of yours.
I'm gonna post a new version in a few days after testing it with 2.0.2
Nedra Fresneda
24.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
I'm not having any luck with this. I import both TSI's assign the left to device target A and the right to Device target B and the controller doesn't function properly at all. I have tried exporting the TSI, quitting Traktor and unplugging the X1 but still no joy. Only the LED's on the left side light up and the only buttons which work are shift FX1 and this switches Deck A to sample deck and vice versa.

Any ideas?
did you delete/disable any previous mappings that might conflict?
Nedra Fresneda
23.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
really appreciate this but I'm confused. How do I assign multiple TSI's to different Decks? I have tried importing one then the other but it removes the first one from the list when I do that?? thanks
You use Add > Import on the Controller Manager page, not the buttons on the lower left.
Nedra Fresneda
22.06.2011
Kori Shatz
22.06.2011
Thank you very much Padi for your excellent work!
Alexandra Nerby
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
In the near future, I haven't got enough time to test deeply and debug that map yet. But yeah, that's the idea of the 2nd map, the 1st one would be a "companion" map.
Ok, good deal.
Keep us updated and thanks for the hard work!
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by Gryz
I haven't tried this mapping yet Padi, but am I understanding things correctly?

I use CDJs for decks A and B and need control over the FX/Volume/Filter ect in my sample decks C and D...

Can I also control the FX/Filter and so on and my main decks A and B with this?
In the near future, I haven't got enough time to test deeply and debug that map yet. But yeah, that's the idea of the 2nd map, the 1st one would be a "companion" map.
Alexandra Nerby
21.06.2011
I haven't tried this mapping yet Padi, but am I understanding things correctly?

I use CDJs for decks A and B and need control over the FX/Volume/Filter ect in my sample decks C and D...

Can I also control the FX/Filter and so on and my main decks A and B with this?
Edris Acevedo
03.06.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
This is the version intended for Decks C & D. It's running perfect on 2.0.2.

The A/B (deck) C/D (sample) version should be up in a week.
Cool man. Look forward to it.
Nedra Fresneda
03.06.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
This TSI didn't work for me at all with the revised settings for Timecode you uploaded. Has the new version re-solved this and ok to use with 2.0.2?? thanks for your efforts.
This is the version intended for Decks C & D. It's running perfect on 2.0.2.

The A/B (deck) C/D (sample) version should be up in a week.
Edris Acevedo
03.06.2011
This TSI didn't work for me at all with the revised settings for Timecode you uploaded. Has the new version re-solved this and ok to use with 2.0.2?? thanks for your efforts.
Nedra Fresneda
02.06.2011
Updated to v1.1

Changelog:
Fixed "Beat Phase Monitor" bug for Deck D
Fixed Shift + Loop Size incorrect behavior
Shift + "< Beat / Beat >" now scrubs the track when the deck is stopped. To edit it's resolution order by Comments and search for "Scrub Resolution".
Nedra Fresneda
28.05.2011
MIDI is free, it's totally mapped in NHL.

It will do what you want, hotcues included. You can switch independently C or D to sample mode without affecting the other side. The default state is C&D in track deck mode.
http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=199
Phylis Casablanca
27.05.2011
Is MIDI mode accessible with this mapping ?

i'm currentlly overseas and just got myself an S4. I'll be only getting back home in a week or so. Therefore i haven't been able to use the S4 and X1 together yet.. but till then I've just been believeing about how I'm gonna re-align my setup.

Basically I want to use the X1 in its Default mapping like I did in Traktor 1.2.7 but instead
control Deck C & D(with hotcues if possible) and FX units 3 & 4.
while leaving DECK A & B, FX units 1 & 2 to the S4.

If I want to use sample decks I have a korg nano kontrol and will be using the 8 faders on that for volume sliders and 8 knobs for filters while launching samples via S4.


Just want to know if this mapping is suitable for my purpose as opposed to another mapping (listed below)

http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=105



Thanks heaps!
Nedra Fresneda
24.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
Yes they only mappings there are the left and right versions of yours.
I'm gonna post a new version in a few days after testing it with 2.0.2
Edris Acevedo
24.05.2011
Yes they only mappings there are the left and right versions of yours.
Nedra Fresneda
24.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
I'm not having any luck with this. I import both TSI's assign the left to device target A and the right to Device target B and the controller doesn't function properly at all. I have tried exporting the TSI, quitting Traktor and unplugging the X1 but still no joy. Only the LED's on the left side light up and the only buttons which work are shift FX1 and this switches Deck A to sample deck and vice versa.

Any ideas?
did you delete/disable any previous mappings that might conflict?
Edris Acevedo
24.05.2011
I'm not having any luck with this. I import both TSI's assign the left to device target A and the right to Device target B and the controller doesn't function properly at all. I have tried exporting the TSI, quitting Traktor and unplugging the X1 but still no joy. Only the LED's on the left side light up and the only buttons which work are shift FX1 and this switches Deck A to sample deck and vice versa.

Any ideas?
Nedra Fresneda
23.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
really appreciate this but I'm confused. How do I assign multiple TSI's to different Decks? I have tried importing one then the other but it removes the first one from the list when I do that?? thanks
You use Add > Import on the Controller Manager page, not the buttons on the lower left.
Edris Acevedo
22.05.2011
really appreciate this but I'm confused. How do I assign multiple TSI's to different Decks? I have tried importing one then the other but it removes the first one from the list when I do that?? thanks
Nedra Fresneda
21.05.2011
Originally Posted by Audio Aerosol
Yo Padi man. Any chance of hooking me a up with that mapping? Thanks bro
Assign Left to A and right to B. Please inform any bugs encountered.

Press Left Shift + FX1 to switch between Deck A/C focus, same applies to the right, so they are independent from each other.
Edris Acevedo
21.05.2011
Yo Padi man. Any chance of hooking me a up with that mapping? Thanks bro
Nedra Fresneda
20.05.2011
I'll upload it when I get home. Right now it's meant for Decks C and D, changing between sample deck and track deck when you swap control mode.

NHL= Native Hardware Library
Leeanna Ayla
20.05.2011
I thought I knew what NHL stood for, but I can't believe of it now. It's NI's proprietary HID protocol.
Edris Acevedo
20.05.2011
Thanks for the replies. that would be great Padi if you could. When do you believe you will be able to do this? Can I still use your mapping for the required functions for the time being?

Also, what does NHL stand for?
Nedra Fresneda
20.05.2011
You can do all that with NHL in mine, gonna post a tweaked version for A/C B/D for timecode users.

All I need to do is delete a command.
Leeanna Ayla
20.05.2011
You'll need a separate midi mapping since you can't combine midi in an NHL mapping.
Edris Acevedo
20.05.2011
Hey Padi,

I am just setting up my X1 for the first time and I'm looking for a mapping which uses the native functions on the X1 for playback, FX etc but also incorporates the control of 2 sample decks via midi mode perhaps??

I will be using it alongside a Timecode CDJ setup with a DJM 600.

Is your mapping the one I need?

thanks
Nedra Fresneda
07.05.2011
Woha, 155 downloads in 3 days. Guess people were eager to get it
Nedra Fresneda
05.05.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
yo padi, any chance you could fill out one of these: http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/c...templates.aspx to make it nice and clear? Just use black for standard and red for shift or somthing? I'd love you to bits if you did
I considered it, but at some parts I just needed to write more (besides from the fact that I needed to use 3-4 pics), so it would be one cluttered pdf.
Tatum Ansaldo
05.05.2011
yo padi, any chance you could fill out one of these: http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/c...templates.aspx to make it nice and clear? Just use black for standard and red for shift or somthing? I'd love you to bits if you did
Chuck Peretto
04.05.2011
Will this work well with Duo 2 or not so much? I'm clueless when it come to midi mapping unfortunately.
Nedra Fresneda
04.05.2011
It's up

http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=199
Kristofer Krauel
26.04.2011
will take a good look at this when its ready!!
Nedra Fresneda
25.04.2011
First build is done, I need to make the explanatory PDF and I'll upload it.
Kristofer Krauel
05.04.2011
Originally Posted by Gianmarco
The main thing I can believe of is to use the top half (with the 8 buttons and adjacent knobs) to be used as sample deck control. The buttons on the left half would control/launch the 4 decks on deck c (same with deck d for right half) and the knobs would control level/filter. Perhaps make the knobs control levels automatically and shift+knob controls filter? I believe that would present a problem since the knob may nit be in standard 12 o cock position.

Those are my main thoughts.
Ive started to remap mine in this exact way. Shift + Knob to control the filters. Im finding that the level of the filter Jumps to the level of the main vol when i switch between shift and non-shift.

I've started using the left encoders and FX 1 + 2 buttons for controlling the loop recorder - top encoder for loop length, bottom encoder for D/W, FX1 button for rec and FX2 button for play/pause.

Also mapped some of the buttons in the lower section to load a recorded loop into one of the sample slots.

Not perfect by any stretch but its a start.

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