Scratch like a BOSS w/ no talent! :) [ w/ Video ]
Scratch like a BOSS w/ no talent! :) [ w/ Video ] Posted on: 28.12.2012 by Sheilah Kurzhal A little technique I've been messing with:Cool ... or no? - BREED | |
| Kellie Myrum 19.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by drmore
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| Sheilah Kurzhal 08.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by djproben
AND by sharing the process or result of your effort ... you help others ... And others. At the very least: 500+ plays since 12/28/12 ... some thumbs up ... and those same viewers had to hear "What's up, Youtube ... It's your boy, Breed". That can't be a bad thing either. Work. Share. Work. Share. Work. Share. Good things happen. |
| 07.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by jshawpro
I'm nowhere near his level. also, thanks for the follow jshawpro! |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 19.01.2013 | I'm just a huge fan of the progression of art. As a producer w/ 10+ years experience (started young) .. I was always excited about a new tool that would simplify my process .. even though I slaved away a year or two earlier mastering the technique manually or whatever. People would grab the tool or plug whatever it was ... RAPE and BASTARDIZE it ... as I was moving on to the next challenge. DO MORE. BE MORE. TRY HARDER. I can't wait to post my next video. I was already doing more with the gate "scratch simulator" - than what I showed in the video, which was the raw concept. But I've further expanded my mapping for the summer (when I spin regularly) and ... I. AM. HYPE. I've learned so much here. And now that my production EP is finally finished! I can wrap up my Traktor mapping, practice more, and PUT IN WORK!! |
| Kellie Myrum 19.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by drmore
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| Tawna Ulmen 19.01.2013 | Haters always gona hate. Its what gets them outa bed in the morning. I have the gater mapped to buttons on my launchpad one row to control rate and another to control shape. All hold effects. With 8 buttons and a platter you can wip out some awesome scratch noises. |
| Valerie Shingledecker 19.01.2013 | That is awesome! |
| Winter Ruggio 19.01.2013 | ok, i believe we all cleared up whatever it was that people wanted to say.yes,i love using real vinyl,i have traktor skratch,and when i cant find the record in its real for,i use traktor.listen gentlemen,i love technology,i love controller ism.i love the art of the sonic collage as long as it inspires and is positive.real skratching or not,i ama bit older,so i am a bit nostalgic to the real,well practiced art of the kut,especially in its primitive form.i would never insult anyone who loves our culture,since we obviously do cuz we onna community .lol. my apology's if i accidentlly insulted any of my brothers in sound manipulation. and like was shown,a good skratch dj can do perfect gater type kuts with variations that simply cant be done yet.,i believe what got feathers wildin is or was the 'no talent' comment,but that was too explained. now lets make music and go bananas fellas....i truly love the community and the candor of the members/ j-kutta |
| Roxy Susano 07.01.2013 |
I like this one, creative method |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 07.01.2013 | I believe I may call it ... "Scratch like a BOSS, with *SOME* talent". Totally joking. But I will try my hardest to be sure it's better. So hopefully people will recognize my effort to grow. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 08.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by djproben
AND by sharing the process or result of your effort ... you help others ... And others. At the very least: 500+ plays since 12/28/12 ... some thumbs up ... and those same viewers had to hear "What's up, Youtube ... It's your boy, Breed". That can't be a bad thing either. Work. Share. Work. Share. Work. Share. Good things happen. |
| Kristofer Krauel 07.01.2013 | Similar thing done here but just using a pioneer mixer and some CDJ 1000's, no software necessary!! ..... |
| 07.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by jshawpro
I'm nowhere near his level. also, thanks for the follow jshawpro! |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 07.01.2013 | the context of the argument was that the tracks bpm is edm/house/breaks/dubstep etc... sweet skills in the vid proben but that is to a syncopated hip hop rhythm not a solid four four beat.. promote that shit is dope! never knew the S4 crossfader could move fast enough for tight scratching.. but still hip hop so not what I'm talking about... If anyone has a good example of scratching to dance stuff I'd love to see it so I can learn from it |
| Danae Dumler 07.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
Also, at least with Traktor's gater, you're really limited in terms of patterns. Show me how you can do triplets using the gater? Even doing straight up flares would be difficult (though not impossible) but how would you do a chirp-flare triplet combo? It would be great if Traktor improved the gater with more and better pattern options, but even then you're really looking at a tool for mimicking transforms only. Which certainly can be cool, but it doesn't give you the flexibility of scratch combos. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 06.01.2013 | Checking you out on Soundcloud, Corpo ... Love that Free Falling and Soulja Boy mash! Very eclectic selections. I respect that! Insta - follow! #Respect |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 06.01.2013 | Dope video, CORPO! I love that! And if I was solely a DJ (my passion is for production) ... I'd strive to get on YO level! Great work! VERY inspiring to me! |
| 06.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
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| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 06.01.2013 | Can we see some scratching vids from the purists please.. I'm pretty sure not many people could transform and make the same sound as software gate can make and that is the only thing that actually sounds good between 110-135bpm. Natural freeform scratching on the crossfader never sounds perfect IMO and just overshadows the tune. at least when it's gated it meshes with the underlying track better if volume levels are respected. ...Also James Zabeila would make more than $6000 most evening s and plays to larger more diverse crowds more often than any turntablist "craze and a-trak excluded, but they're now house dj's and producers". |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by Culture_Shock
I was indirectly clear about that point as well ... their expression of disinterest in these posts just bounces it right back to the top ... right back in their own faces. I'm like cool ... my Youtube account needs more exposure. However .. It was my true intent ... to post a video of a technique that I admitted was a little cheesy, in hopes that it would invoke brainstorming on this concept that I could be a part of. And it did to some degree. |
| Deangelo Boender 03.01.2013 | "Huh. this thread is up to five pages now, I wonder how it's going? I mean this is a community
centric on digital djing, I'll be that it's rife with discussion on different gear and technique related to this guys video about digital djing!" Nope, it's just derailed into a bunch of people crapping on this guys modest effort to share something. Maybe if he just got upset the way people are expecting of him this wouldn't have dragged out for so long, but he seems pretty sure of himself, so it might take a few more pages... |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 | For sure ... I tried to convey as quickly as possible my respect for the art ... and that I FEEL the technique is a little cheesy ... but sounds good ... again to me! It's still not enough. Option 1 (best for them) is to overlook a post that contains content that you believe is whack ... Option 2 (somewhat common) a good open minded assessment of your post and a down to earth response be it supportive or non. Option 3 (very common) a belittling or sarcastic response .. as they bring up points that you've already assessed and expressed your reasoning concerning those point that lead you to your opinion or belief ... I'm like "did you even read what I wrote"? I get somewhat emotional when I have to repeat myself ... because someone ignorantly or due to their emotions ... will not acknowledge points that I've already mentioned. But it's like you said ... Get the ladies dancing and it's alllll good. You'll get call backs and love until that stops. Thanks for the reply, mdubs!!
Originally Posted by Djmdubs
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| Else Lofthus 03.01.2013 | Hey good stuff I've noticed the same thing as you when playing out no one cares what gear you are using as long as you are rocking the party and the ladies are dancing everyone is happy. I applaud your use o technology...I don't understand these purists. And don't get me wrong I admire what they do and respect there discipline and what they can do with turntables. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by haze324
Have fun doing what you do, as well! Whatever it is ... I just see a list of gear in your signature and a pile of posts. Hopefully you leave the bedroom with those gaudy 1200's. I would LOVE to check out a video of you showing me how YOU roll. I guarantee ... my comments would surely be supportive unless you are just mind blowingly WHACK. I support ALL ARTISTS AND THEIR EFFORTS. No matter the thresholds that exist for them. I can't wait to blog my experience this season ... I look forward to your negativity and critique! It makes me better. Being as (I assume) you already "scratch like BOSS" ... I'm honored that you would watch my Youtube video! I need all the views I can get! Thumbs down it while you're over there ... I enjoy and will require negative publicity, as well! BIG UPS! KEEP GRINDING, BABY! |
| Julissa Serrone 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by jshawpro
But i get it now. It's December and you are preparing for Summer gigs!!! Good luck with whatever you want to call that. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 | Keith ... that's how I feel about it. Honestly. With 10+ years of pursuing record production ... I went through a purist phase where I rarely sampled, wouldn't use loops, hated on the warpers and their clever mashup titles ... just got kind of snobby about it .. because I had to solve a lot of problems on my own, then watch a year later software would come out that solved your problem automatically. I was stubborn to acknowledge / accept the newer / smarter tools. But all that negative energy did was hinder my growth and isolate me as producer. I got over it fairly quickly ... have learned to focus on MY goals ... and to just out grind anyone in my way. Been having some of the most rewarding experiences with my music EVER SINCE! Thank you for the reply, Keith!
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Margie Pavell 03.01.2013 | cool use of the technology...isn't that the point? |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 | And that is surely the case ... so I don't really see the problem. I have NEVER experienced a negative remark from anyone live. I believe people are a lot more witty and ballsy on these community
s. I ALWAYS get PROPS from DJ's and guys who are in the know about controllerism and what not. And I'll say it again ... I believe it's because my focus lays primarily on strong TRACK SELECTION and smooth / exciting transitions ... as opposed tricks like this ... which I easily have 20 more of (other "tricks" / stunts) I've ONLY experienced negativity HERE! I don't understand why people who already know how to "scratch like a BOSS" would click the post! THEN disregard the original posters CRYSTAL CLEAR reasoning behind the video and the effect. BUT ... thanks to the title I strategically selected ... My Youtube vid has several hundred views in no time!
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Danae Dumler 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by jshawpro
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| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 | Anyone hating on your video, Froto is mad because they're at the house on a Saturday evening
!! I found your video ... VERY ENERGETIC ... VERY CREATIVE ... And love it! MUCH RESPECT! THANK YOU for sharing!
Originally Posted by LXJ
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| Rodger Seferovic 03.01.2013 | I actually utilized this same "gated scratching" technique in one of my recent videos and got ripped to shreds by some purist turntablists so I know how it feels (SKIP TO 1:47 for fake scratching) : I believe its just another tool to add to your performance. I can't imagine cue point juggling with two vinyls. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 | Umm ... I've stated several times throughout all this ... That I'm not AT ALL offended about what ANYBODY believes of what I'm doing. The "purists" always seem to be the ones not having fun. I just laugh ... as I prepare for another EPIC SUMMER, baby! I don't care what you want to call it ... the subject was meant to be fun and joking ... I looked up the definition of DJ scratching, and I'm no purist and all, but I believe the definition below describes are VERY similar action to what I'm doing. "Definition: Scratching involves moving the LP record forward and backward with the phono needle in the groove to create unique sounds and rhythms." I believe the only one taking offense to anything is you, bro. How about I stop calling it scratching ... and just start calling it making money? It doesn't matter to me. Obviously, you did not watch the video (in full) to hear my commentary on it. I said myself: "It's gay ... but cool. BUT I THINK it sounds good. Maybe it will help you do a little something cool to your set." Some of you people need to seriously get over yourselves ... You kind of sound like mr purist turntable guy in the club ... That's playing dated breakbeats ... scratching like he's sick ... And will not take any input from us in the crowd ... who don't really care about your behind the back transformer crab wiggle toevening . DUDE YOU'RE RUNNING OFF THE CHICKS!!! LIGHTEN, PIMP. If you don't like the Auto Gate Scratch 5000 ... I appreciate that position and the feedback. But don't get emotional about all this.
Originally Posted by haze324
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| Julissa Serrone 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by jshawpro
"Scratch like a Boss with No Talent" Two things: 1. That is not scratching like a boss, actually it's not scratching at all. 2. You are correct, absolutly no talent was required for that. What you wrote above reminds me much of the "Instant Gratification" culture new (and yes I'll say it - controller DJ's) have become. Hell there's even a mapping called IG ---- no talent required, just press a few buttons. Don't get defensive because someone tells you that's not scratching man, you asked for the critiques. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by dj calkutta
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| Winter Ruggio 03.01.2013 | awesome, i am 38,mortage,family,and make my money from doing sound-work for commercials "Nike,Verizon Wireless,Adidas..etc",so i feel very lucky to make a good living doing what i love.best of luck with your music man,keep us posted.especially if you stumble on any new techniques.again,god bless you and the mob. j- |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 04.01.2013 | Much love and respect Calkutta ... You strike me as classy and down to earth. I have no intentions of becoming a realtor. That was analogy to express where I'm at in my life. 29 ... A mortgage ... I have great day job (thank god it involves graphic design / marketing .. creativity) ... and a pile of suppressed musical passion that was never fully released due to various decisions I made which required directing a portion of my focus away from music. I have production placements with some very reputable artists ... I gained those placements at the age of 21-22 w/ honestly a pretty weak effort as far as pursuing opportunities goes ... All I had to do was keep grinding ... and the sky was the limit. But I allowed real life obligations to hinder my creative energy. 6 or 7 years can fly by if you're not careful. So that's my motivation. And I'm completely fine with making a few hundred bucks when I can, for playing songs and having fun for a couple of hours. Even with my production aspirations (which is WAY more important to me than spinning) ... I am not chasing the limelight ... I just want a comfortable existence .. funded entirely by my creative thoughts / work. Anything beyond that ... and I'll be the most humble recipient of praise and adoration that you have ever seen. All signs point to this season of (DJ'ing) being significantly more profitable than my debut last year. When playing these venues no longer make sense for me, financially ... I'll stop. Great talk ... and I harbor nothing but respect for you and your ideas regarding this difference of vision / goal. Keep grinding! The MOB shall judge thee! And if thou were wise ... Thou would hear them.
Originally Posted by dj calkutta
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| Winter Ruggio 04.01.2013 | thats perfectly fine, thank you for your explanation.but ask yourself why DJ Q-bert,Mixmaster Mike,Rob Swift and Z-Trip,Shiftee,etc,make $6000 a show,and live with a freedom to make whatever music they want while makers of the technology sponsor them and make products with their names.its because they do something that few can do.they use all kinds of technology,but they all skratch,be it on a DVS or a real record.this isnt for everybody.very few people have the time or discipline to learn what they do.hey,if you are happy and making a few hundred bucks,that is awesome.real estate is also a good job.but if you wanna get big money and only DJ,the bar has been set pretty high.i am happy for anyone who is doing well and having fun.so my hats off to you.hope the real estate game takes you to many cool places,like DJing does to those i mentioned above.Japan,Europe,etc,playing what they want,doing what only they can do.god bless you for sharing your thoughts and techniques. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 04.01.2013 | DJ Calkutta - Thanks for the feedback! I whole heartedly respect your position .. and enthusiasm for keeping the artform alive. However ... I believe I made my position throughout this post fairly clear. I have very limited experience playing out ... but due to my network of associates and friends ... or maybe my good looks, wit and charm ... but I have NO problem acquiring gigs in my area after getting my feet wet. I'm not going home ... because I can't scratch. When I started ... for the first month I was nervous as hell ... I focused initially on smart | hot | interesting TRACK SELECTION <--- HUGE I've discovered ... and equally as important .. mixing and transitions. For the first couple of months that's all I pretty much did. No tricks. I cannot say enough about TRACK SELECTION ... it became what I was known for and it wasn't long before my evening s started to hurt the business of the competing, more popular club right next door .. (I'm tight with bartenders there) .. Guess where I'm scheduled to play THIS Spring Break and summer? BOTH clubs on various evening s throughout the season. I'm not trying to be rude either ... But AT THIS POINT in my life having DJ's respect me is a lot less fulfilling ... Than walking away from a club after a couple of quick hours of manipulating well selected songs ... a few hundred extra in your pocket .. some new likes on FB .. And chicks begging you drop just ONE MORE SONG!!!! Then riding home ... contemplating what you're gonna try next week ... or the next evening sometimes! I've got a HUGE list of skills that would be more beneficial to my career than learning to scratch, the "real" way. I'd rather go get a real estate license ... so I could have a more flexible schedule to produce more music ... AND DJ / hit play in the clubs! If I was 16 again ... I'd be all over it. BUT ... I'm getting older and feel like I need to GRIND TRIPLE OVERTIME to catch up to where I know I could be. So, my friend ... I TRULY appreciate your passion and insight! However ... It is up to YOU to save turntablism ... It is up to ME to supplement my primary source of income w/ other streams, so that I may more efficiently pursue my passion of record production. And I'm gonna keep showing up with my limited experience, MBP, S2, Launchpad, Odyssey flight case, and my headphones ... until these super drunk chicks and club owners get off my nuts! I am Breed and I approve this message.
Originally Posted by dj calkutta
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| Winter Ruggio 03.01.2013 | ok, the effect is cool sounding,but we as DJ's are ambassadors of its history.riding a bike with training wheels doesnt mean you can be an olympic bike racer.we should respect the art form of turntablism because it truly helped give birth to controllerism.i like to trigger cue-points in my sets,but it takes years of practice to learn to skratch for real and is respected because of it.im not trying to be rude or pompous,its just that just because it kinda sounds like skratching doesnt make it so.some people can actually really kut with controllers and it sounds almost true.but when you skratch a real record and pull it back and then release,it feels way different than hitting the gate button and other effects.effects are great for skratching,like echo and others,but we should hold with high regard the ones that do it with just a mixer and turntable as pioneers to our new culture.save the effects for samples and beats,but skratching like this just isnt the same.-doing 3-d letters in photoshop is way easier than doing them by hand,hence why photoshop letters arent graffiti letters.i love controllerism and technology,but an analog skratch by hand is a standard,an important expression that shouldnt be faked unless one has just started and doesnt know.thank you for your post of the gater skratch 'effect',just please help our art form by explaining that there is no way to cheat among the sects of serious turntable artist.it is a great effect,but like you said,use it sparingly and always explain when people say 'nice to hear you are a DJ that skratches' that you actually were not,instead of laughing to yourself.again,i am not trying to insult or be rude.its up to us to defend were we came from for no one else will. |
| Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by SwedeDreams
You should consider making the link in your signature direct .. I ALWAYS click them when they're clearly a link and the person is cool. I know it's just one more step ... but most people are lazy. Nonetheless ... I'm following you on Soundcloud ... And look forward to your future releases! Would you identify your sound as primarily electro or trance? I hear a beautiful combination of both!! ElecTrance? |
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