LAUNCHPAD mapping 4 decks 4 traktor (w/ leds)
LAUNCHPAD mapping 4 decks 4 traktor (w/ leds) Posted on: 11.12.2009 by Jay Mcelhenny So, I bought a launchpad because i wanted all those buttons, for hot cues, and other such fun.... plus the fact that you could get LED feedback was auh sum!but damn if that thing was difficult to figure out!!! first, its meant to play with ableton. Anything else requires novation's automap which is a pain to use with traktor. I thought i was bound by this marriage believeing that the only way to get midi messages from launchpad to other softwware, mainly traktor, was while the automap server was running. Needless to say, that whole thing was terrible. But then i noticed something in traktor's midi controller setup...... if you select "general midi" and choose "launchpad" for in/out ports guess what? you can send midi messages directly from launchpad to traktor like any other controller. Then its all a matter of figuring out what you want to do. I have searched the web and all my searches ended up with results = 0. I couldn't find a good explanation, nor a fully mapped out launchpad, specially nothing complete with responsive LEDs (but i knew it was possible cause i saw a youtube vid of some dude doing such stuff). So after many hours of reading, testing, configuring, etc... i got my launchpad to work. Not sure i'll keep this mapping entirely, but for now, its cool to see that what i put on paper actually works in practice. So first off, here's my setup so if you have something similar, you can try it out and see if it works: - MacBook 13" (os x 10.5) - traktor pro - novation launchpad that's it as far as this particular experiment goes. I don't really have the resources nor time to try the different combinations of operating systems, drivers, and traktor versions, but if anyone wants to give this a go for other setups, please please do so and share your feedback. I'm sure i'm not the only one who would like to know more about this. There are some gotcha's to all this: 1. you don't have to run automap (which is not really a gotcha but a note) 2. I'm not sure if launchpad is meant to run the way i've done it, but whatever, it works for me now and seems stable 3. i'm by no means a midi expert nor programmer and i'm still learning a lot 4. i don't guarantee this will work, but if it does and people like it, auh sum! Here is a detailed view of the mapping: MAPPING-VIEW (description in caption) So here's what you have to do: 1. download the tsi files i have created (4 total, 1 for each deck. I don't like flipping through huge mapping files in the small traktor window, sorry) A-Deck TSI [download] B-Deck TSI [download] C-Deck TSI [download] D-Deck TSI [download] 2. open traktor first and import the files. 3. make sure that for each mapping file, launchpad is selected as in/out ports. (not sure if the mapping files do this automagically) 4. once imported, close traktor 5. connect your launchpad via usb (all LEDs will/should be off) 6. open traktor 7. once its ready to receive midi, click on all the buttons and it will light them up according to their current state. It should look like this photo: INITIALIZATION PICTURE (description in caption) Here are some other photos with explanations in the captions: HOTCUE STATES PICTURE (description in caption) FULLY LOADED PICTURE (description in caption) I don't have a complete understanding still of some of the concepts and discovered some on a fluke. However, i will say this, what i'm really hoping for is that some of you see what i did (hopefully it works on your setup) and can play around with it more. Also, please leave any feedback as to what you believe or suggestions or anything. I'll try to help out as much as i can since i'm usually pretty busy (i'm surprised i even got this going). Anyhow, thanks again... migz | |
| Bethany Adrianzen 15.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Villinus
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| Lizzie Hoesley 31.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by pipedreams
That link to that tsi is dead. (Sorry if it's buried in this thread elsewhere! I've been hunting all evening !) |
| Bethany Adrianzen 19.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by ejac
the only major changes from ejac's .tsi files are as follows: -Mapped deck D (he may not use it, but I do ^_^) -Holding Shift (Session button on launchapd) and pressing each deck's play button will focus that deck -Holding shift will turn the hotcue buttons into delete buttons for the cuepoints, allowing you to delete your hotcues on the fly. (the LEDs also blink off instantly, so it's visually intuitive) The hotcue delete mappings are in the control .tsi, so in order for it to work, you must install all 5 .tsi files. thanks for looking |
| Graham Frazier 07.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by Fraa
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=17497 And the most recent version is post #69 on page 7... http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...t=17497&page=7 |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 18.11.2011 | here are the raw note+cc's (non rotated) in case any use http://midimasher.djism.com/lua/devices/launchpad.lua and here's all the colours i could work out: http://midimasher.djism.com/lua/lib/launchpad.lua you also have access to all those flashing/blinking colors if u somehow send (one time) CC000 with a value of 40 first to your lp - assuming you're not using automap |
| Queen Sichel 18.11.2011 | NVM, wasn't that hard once I got my head around the system... Anyone else interested, here it is in grid form. Code:
G-1 B0 D#2 G3 | B4 D#6 G7 B8
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CC.111| G#-1 C1 E2 G#3 | C5 E6 G#7 C9
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CC.110| F#-1 A#0 D2 F#3 | A#4 D6 F#7 A#8
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CC.109| F-1 A0 C#2 F3 | A4 C#6 F7 A8
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CC.108| E-1 G#0 C2 E3 | G#4 C6 E7 G#8
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CC.107| D#-1 G0 B1 D#3 | G4 B5 D#7 G8
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CC.106| D-1 F#0 A#1 D3 | F#4 A#5 D7 F#8
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CC.105| C#-1 F0 A1 C#3 | F4 A5 C#7 F8
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CC.104| C-1 E0 G#1 C3 | E4 G#5 C7 E8
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| Queen Sichel 18.11.2011 | I'm sorry if the answer is already in the thread, but has anyone made a picture of the LED outputs MIDI notes on the launchpad? I'd like to do my own mapping but going through all the midi outs is a pain, just thought if someone has made the work for me... :-P Or if you know a way to change the LED color in automap (all goes to red for me, kinda sucks). |
| Chas Giraldez 16.10.2011 | i might actually get a launchpad in the future.... ill try this out |
| Bethany Adrianzen 15.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by Villinus
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| Lizzie Hoesley 31.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by pipedreams
That link to that tsi is dead. (Sorry if it's buried in this thread elsewhere! I've been hunting all evening !) |
| Wai Rofkahr 28.06.2011 | Any easy way to put a shift button on this mapping to clear cue points made on the fly? Otherwise it's great! |
| Faustina Plucker 15.05.2011 | I've had a LaunchPad sitting around for a long time - I bought it just for Traktor, but took forever to try setting it up. [SORRY ! I didn't spot all the replies on this thread - for some reason, the browser stopped loading the page completely so I didn't see all the other pages listed at the end! My question was answered on page 2 ] I followed the steps suggested, but what I have found is that after importing each TSI, only the most recent import takes hold. So if I import Deck A, it works on deck A. I import deck B's TSI and deck B works, but deck A no longer does. The controller manager only shows one entry for Launchpad. If anyone can help me, that would be fab Thanks! |
| Maybelle Mongiardo 16.04.2011 | This is awsome nice job!!!!! I just got this to work with traktor pro S4 software and it works amazingly!! It would be sweet if the buttons on the side controlled pre-saved effects.. maybe that is something i will work on adding to the mapping.. but overall very awesome it will deff add something to my performance with the S4 |
| Joella Roelfs 02.04.2011 | I'm so sick of traktor! Since 4 hours I'm trying to map two different Midi-Output Modes to a Launchpad Button, but there's no way to achieve this. I already worked with modifiers, which send an output to bomes which than activates a timer for a new midi-message, in order to overcome Traktors Limits. The worst: Even the new Version (Traktor 2) forces you to work in this little preference window. I'm really annoyed!!! My goal was to get reflect the new "Slot State" and the "Slot Mute/Unmute" on one single button: Amber Color = Sample Slot Playing Green Color = Sample Slot Not Playing Red Color = Sample Slot Playing but Muted No Color = No Sample loaded This would be perfect in conjunction with the midi-command "Sample Play". I nearly found a solution until I realized that the green color is only lightning when the sample slot is not unmuted before stoping it otherwise it remains amber. Did someone managed to map two different Midi Outputs to a LED with different colors? I do achieved to get proper feedback for the Hotcues and Loops, because I ticked the "blend" option in traktor and converted the different velocities of the output in bomes. |
| Lorine Krattli 03.03.2011 | hi all, midi-mapping newb here so be kind! I believe I am going to get a launchpad to use with ableton but I also want to use it with my traktor set=up. currently i use traktor pro and numark omnicontrol and i want to use the launchpad to fire off hot cues/loops (1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4 ,8 16,32). ideally i would like to use the first two horizontal lines for 8 hot cues on a 2 deck set up and the next 2 horzontal lines for the loops. i know how to map the buttons but its the LEDs that i have no clue how to set up, i have read through the thread and it still makes no sense how to do it if some kind soul could put an example up of how to set up one of the buttons with LEDS i would really appreciate it. ideally i would like the top 2 rows to be red (if there is a hot cue) or no LED if no hot cues are loaded. for the loops i would like them to be on and green all of the time and for it to flash green when i select a loop so i know what size loop i am using. sorry again if this is a really newb question! |
| Terica Luckadoo 01.03.2011 | midi learn... and lots of it! |
| Jerilyn Mcintrye 27.02.2011 | Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster here... Just want to say that this has got to be one of THE best threads on DJTT! Thanks everyone for all the great info, I've been having a blast trying all this stuff out. Got a question... I'm wondering how one would go about implementing midi fighter .tsi mappings on the launchpad. In particular the instant gratification mapping. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. |
| Dj Fonzie Ciaco 17.01.2011 | I'm interested! |
| Joella Roelfs 20.12.2010 | I also found a way to reflect the hotcue type with different colors. I purchased a copy of Bomes in order to do that. If anyone is interessted PM me. |
| Bethany Adrianzen 19.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by ejac
the only major changes from ejac's .tsi files are as follows: -Mapped deck D (he may not use it, but I do ^_^) -Holding Shift (Session button on launchapd) and pressing each deck's play button will focus that deck -Holding shift will turn the hotcue buttons into delete buttons for the cuepoints, allowing you to delete your hotcues on the fly. (the LEDs also blink off instantly, so it's visually intuitive) The hotcue delete mappings are in the control .tsi, so in order for it to work, you must install all 5 .tsi files. thanks for looking |
| Angelika Lac 13.12.2010 | I know this has thus far been about mapping four deck and sorry for the post jack, but for some odd reason my stealth controller is canceling out my launchpad. I've done the big import button little import button thing already but its still be weird in my powered hub. here are my TSI's |
| Graham Frazier 07.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by Fraa
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=17497 And the most recent version is post #69 on page 7... http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...t=17497&page=7 |
| Isreal Roberto 07.12.2010 | I'm having a similar problem here, except I'm using a heavily modified version of the Midi Fighter deckalized mapping ported to the launchpad, which I found on this community
. I've been troubleshooting this for weeks, I can't believe traktor can have such a glaring bug. I've got a brand new lenovo ideapad z560 pc, core i5, 4gb ram. Just purchased a usb 3.0 expresscard because I thought it might help the problem, which it did not. Neither did using a powered usb hub. I believe it's caused my a number of factors, obviously slow LED's shouldn't cause audio glitches in traktor, but also the LED's are slow in other programs as well, like ableton (but thankfully this does not cause audio problems, just slow LED's). I've had major problems with believes like MLR running in max4live not lighting LED's correctly, leaving ones lit when there should not be, etc. I have none of these problems on my desktop computer, which has a slower processor, older soundcard, etc. I've read the latency might be caused by IRQ sharing, but there's really no way to change what IRQ your usb ports use. The best solution I've found so far is using Midi-ox to figure out what notes are being sent to the launchpad and removing the unnecessary ones. In my mapping I don't have lights for individual hot cues, so I've got the same amount of midi data output being sent to other midi controller LED's, and I only have problems when the output to the launchpad is enabled, even if it's going through a secondary program like midi ox or bome's. Apparently if you update your launchpad to beta drivers from this thread it can slightly improve the speed. Novation-Launchpad.com Forum Thread [edit] I just e-mailed Novation about this issue and to see if there are any updates with the beta drivers (the ones on that thread are months old now). I'll post again if I find anything out. |
| Joella Roelfs 04.12.2010 | I recently purchased a copy of bomes midi translator in order to improve the functions of my novation launchpad. I'm using it as a interface for controlling the loops of Traktor. Here's the deal: I want to change the colors of the same button according to the hotcue state. For example: if I store a simple "cue" it should light up red and if I store a "loop" it should light up "green". Sadly Traktor doesnt know how to handle to MIDI-OUT messages which are targeting the same note. After hours of pondering I found a solotion which breaks up the outgoing MIDI-Message "hotcue1 state" in two seperate Midi-Messages and reroute it to Traktor. From there the messages will be picked up from two "Modifier #1" In-Messages. One will change the "modifier#1" value to "1" (when the cue is stored) and the other one will change the "modifier#1" value to "0" (when the cue is deleted). Then there is another "Modifier#1" Out-Message which finally lights up the button according to the value (min = 12 / max = 15). This is only working up if the "hotcue state" is a "cue", so I repeated the steps if the "hotcue state" is a "loop". Here's my problem: If I continue to map the messages like this there will be not enought Modifiers to reflect 8 hotcue states (not even 4 hotcue state), since every hotcue is consuming two Modifiers. Traktor only allow 8 Modifiers which are all global. As soon as I would store hotcue states on another deck, they would overwrite the old Modifier values. Is there a solution which works with variables from Bomes or is there a logical error in my solution? Here are the files: Traktor's TSI: http://db.tt/Q5oa3Y6 Bome's bmtp: http://db.tt/I089AqF Here are the "midi range" values for the led options in traktor: 12 = off 13 = red low 14 = red mid 15 = red high 28 = green low 44 = green mid 60 = green high 29 = amber low 46 = amber mid 63 = amber high And the "controller range" values: -1 = no mapping 0 = Cue 1 = Fade In 2 = Fade Out 3 = Load 4 = Grid 5 = Loop I really appreciate help. |
| Marcella Dottery 22.09.2010 | Just want to say thanks for all the contributions in this thread. I'm about to start playing around with my Launchpad that arrived today. |
| Treva Carinio 09.09.2010 | I know this is an old thread, but for the people who are having problems in Traktor with the hotcue leds updating all at once when you load a song into a deck (it generates audio glitches because of the low-speed-usb it uses apparently), I made a mapping in Bome's Midi translator that delays every led outut for the hotcues with 300ms. It doesn't completely solve the problem, but it sure works a lot better now. The audio glitches are substantially less hearable compared to when you normally load a song into a deck & all the hotcue-leds go on. So: 1. Download this rar file (it contains the bome's midi translator file & a tsi file for traktor) 2. Install Midi-Yoke (it's free) 3. Install Bome's Midi translator (it's not free, but there are "other" ways to get it ) 4. Delete all hotcue led-outputs you have for your launchpad in your existing mapping in Traktor. 5. Import the tsi file & in the device "Launchpad_Hotcue_Leds", select "none" for your Midi input & "Midi Yoke 1" for your Midi output 6. Open Bome's Midi Translator, open the .bmtp file included in the rar. 7. Select "Midi Yoke 1" as your Midi input & "Launchpad" as your Midi output on the top menu. What it basicly does is: When you load a song into a deck in Traktor, it sends all the hotcue-led-outputs to Midi Yoke 1. Bome's catches these signals and delays them all by 300ms. It then sends the delayed signals to your Launchpad. You'll see that when you load a song into a deck, the hotcues will be delayed as said before. I'll say it again: It doesn't completely solve the problem since the Output messages in Traktor are still being sent at the same time, but it improves the glitch-problem substantially. PS: The tsi file included only changes the led-outputs for the hotcues, it doesn't add any other mappings. So remember that you only delete the hotcue-outputs you already have! PS2: The pads I choose for the hotcues are these, if you want them to light up somewhere else, you'll have to change the bome's file yourself. The leds for the hotcues light up FULL red for decks A & C and DIMMED red for decks B & D. I did this so you could see more easily what deck you're using on the LP. Again, if you want this in another color, just change it yourself |
| Kandy Ahdoot 03.09.2010 | does anyone have lelmau's tsi? could they email it me please [email protected] cheers |
| Stephanie Nespor 23.08.2010 | Hi Everybody, with reference to lelmau-trakpad-2010.tsi for controlling Traktor Pro by Novation Launch I've to annunce the following: Unfortunately at this moment I cannot give you the above. Probably I lost it during an S.O. reinstallation:-(.. ..anyway I'd have a back-up in somewhere at my studio. I'll go back next week and if i'll find it, i'll continue to share it with all of you want to test:-) In the meanwhile try to post a message in this thread. I've already send the lelmau-trakpad-2010.tsi to various users. If you have fortune someone could read and give it to you. Thanks!..and Much-Much Thanks to people have requested the .tsi and test it!! I hope it has been appreciated. lelmau |
| Graham Frazier 20.08.2010 | This is one of the best tools ever. I used a slightly modified version in both of these videos..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbrPAh__D0A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exqqtUe7VXk |
| Margo Emperador 19.08.2010 | Hey nuk let me know how it goes.. i'm new to this game and haven't quite figuered it out.. thanks.. |
| Isreal Roberto 13.08.2010 | great work man! I've been trying to find a great template for my launchpad, I just started messing around with it and traktor this week. I'm gonna try this out later. |
| Carmen Cassese 05.08.2010 | hi i can get the lights on but only amber do you know how to get them to change colors i cant get the controller range and midi range set up..do you have like the values it would be very helpfull.. |
| Laraine Arceo 31.07.2010 | Just popping in to say I've been believeing of buying the launchpad for months now but this SETTLES IT!! Jesus I'm sooo o psyched! |
| Lupe Shehee 29.07.2010 | Cheers Migz I changed a couple of mappings and love it for a one page wonder for djing when I can't travel with my VCI100-se..... I'm believeing of writing a Max app basing the first page on your layout. nice one |
| Graham Frazier 28.06.2010 | Thank you Migz. I love this setup. I used it and a launchpad in the video here. http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d=1#post135283 |
| Rudy Rogich 07.04.2010 | working after i got the new one from lelmau |
| Nieves Rohach 06.04.2010 | lelmau, can you upload the tsi or send it by e-mail? You did a really nice job here, i just want to add some cue points to it and I believe we have the ultimate Launchpad Mapping! Sent you a PM. Thanks! |
| Rudy Rogich 05.04.2010 | got the lmau but somehow it wont work properly it only load the bottom part of it, what am i doing wrong ? |
| Stephanie Nespor 12.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by lelmau
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| Stephanie Nespor 12.03.2010 | http://picasaweb.google.com/10343562...27112217717378 hello everybody. this is my lelmau-trakpad-2010.tsi for Launchpad and Traktor-Pro. I can share it via mail. lelmau |
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