Traktor Slicer Idea

Traktor Slicer Idea
Posted on: 09.04.2011 by Jetta Drenzek
So, you've probably seen that Novation Twitch which enables a god-level feature in Serato, the slicer. This is literally the shit, an on the fly MPC built into a DJ interface, and as soon as I saw it I looked at my new shiny Traktor 2, and thought "... Why can't you do that?"

Looking around, a lot of people are getting moist over this slicer, and got to believeing how this could be done in Traktor. And you know what? I have no idea. However, I looked at the sample decks and immediately thought "... Hello"

I'm looking for a way to grab samples for bars of audio, for example, I want Traktor to grab a sample from 7 or 8 bars away. I believe this could be possibly be achieved with some abuse of the beatjump, but obviously we don't want it to glitch the audio.

So I call on you, Traktor Cartographers, (Traktographers?), do you know how this could be achieved? This is literally the missing piece from making a slicer mapping for the Midi fighter (which I don't have) and Launchpad (Which I do have!), and it's really boggling me.
Jetta Drenzek
11.04.2011
If it could read where the beat marker is in respect to the loop, that would be ideal, but I'm assumign it takes set values, not relative values yeah? Ideally, I need to be able to change what commands are sent depending on the position of the loop.
Arcelia Siebeneck
11.04.2011
so what do you need the external program to do, midi-wise?

with ahk it's possible for it to scan Traktor for visual changes. For example, when it 'sees' that the x-fader is in a certain position, you could make AHK trigger further midi events. In this way it's possible to create midi event functions that are extremely customisable.

let me know what you need it to do - would be an interesting challenge

ps - also AHK allows you to export the program as a self contained midi executable (windows only) so you don't need to run any weird programs at the same time (except for a virtual midi port).
Jetta Drenzek
11.04.2011
Oh shit, I didn't even believe about using an external program!

Upon further study of the Twitcher's slicer, It's become apparent that it's actually like 8 portable hot cues. I've basically got every feature set up except the fact that it doesn't carry on playing from where the end of the sample plays, see the way I have it arranged is that when a sample plays, it puts the x-fader towards the deck not in focus, therefore muting the deck until the sample button is released.
Arcelia Siebeneck
10.04.2011
Originally Posted by Remote
This is correct I tried to build a clone of it the other evening and I got as far as functioning jump and loop. But traktor only supports 1 2 4 8 16 32 jumps so you can't jump to 3 5 6 7.
Which would be fine if you can stack the jumps but you can't, if you bind a 1 jump and 2 jump to the same button it will only jump 1 beat instead of the hoped 3 beatjump.
this might be possible using some intermediary software such as Bomes, Glovepie or Autohotkey.

For example, I've written scripts in AHK that will process a series of midi commands quickly in succession simply by inputting one midi CC note.

If you can explain exactly what you need Traktor to do, in midi terms, then I'll see if I can write something in AHK that will achieve this.
Jetta Drenzek
10.04.2011
I'm having a fiddle with it Remote, but I'm not getting any results? Do you mean but the 1 bar jump and 2 bar jump on the same button, but put the 2 bar on one modifier up, and have the button also increase the modifier?
Milford Ditter
10.04.2011
@sambo Thank you
Allene Manitta
10.04.2011
pleas do a video/ share the mapping!

I'm damn curious about this, and had a couple of thoughts, too.
Shirlee Depiazza
09.04.2011
@Sambo... solved it Stack Cue/Moves BUT put them on modifers and then have the button set to auto inc the same modifer.

I've only tested it roughly then but it might just work. Seems clean enough with the audio too.
Jetta Drenzek
09.04.2011
@LopDog, Sure, I'll try and set up a recording to show you,

@Remote, I know, how irritating is that. I guess I'll have to settle for my 4/8 button presses!
Shirlee Depiazza
09.04.2011
Originally Posted by Conall
i dont believe its possible, i imagine it would have been done well before now. It's not exactly an original idea.
This is correct I tried to build a clone of it the other evening and I got as far as functioning jump and loop. But traktor only supports 1 2 4 8 16 32 jumps so you can't jump to 3 5 6 7.
Which would be fine if you can stack the jumps but you can't, if you bind a 1 jump and 2 jump to the same button it will only jump 1 beat instead of the hoped 3 beatjump.
Milford Ditter
09.04.2011
Originally Posted by Sambo
Well, I've got something close to the slicer, btt takes pressing a button 8 times on the beat. It acts just like the slicer when it's set up, but obviously thats not what we're after, we want one button press to set it all up.

I just set it up on like an 8 button super combo, it's immense. I had this in mind when I saw the sample decks of the S4, but that slicer in twitch is just, arrgghh *dribble*
You can upload a videosample of your super combo ?
i wish listen that for new idea about the slicer
Jetta Drenzek
09.04.2011
Well, I know it's not original, like I said it's an MPC essentially. There's an earlier Traktor tutorial video that Ean Golden did where he tries something similar with the beatslicer but it doesn't really work like the MPC.
Inez Marcinik
10.04.2011
i dont believe its possible, i imagine it would have been done well before now. It's not exactly an original idea.
Jetta Drenzek
10.04.2011
Well, I've got something close to the slicer, btt takes pressing a button 8 times on the beat. It acts just like the slicer when it's set up, but obviously thats not what we're after, we want one button press to set it all up.

I just set it up on like an 8 button super combo, it's immense. I had this in mind when I saw the sample decks of the S4, but that slicer in twitch is just, arrgghh *dribble*

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